General discussion about the latest news (not search related)

[Robittybob1]

Who knows?  Who cares?

The mods do.   

[Venturi Swirl]

Who knows?  Who cares?

I know and I care.

[The General]

So you won’t name him, never mind.  Piling pressure on guilty people so that they crack usually only works on guilty people

That's patently untrue. Hence why the old adage is 'torture doesn't work'; because eventually they will tell you anything, whether they did it or not.

[Venturi Swirl]

That's patently untrue. Hence why the old adage is 'torture doesn't work'; because eventually they will tell you anything, whether they did it or not.

Inwasn’t talking about torture, I was talking about putting pressure on the McCanns by announcing that they were being reinvestigated.  A bit of a difference.
PS Did yoy know it’s bad form to amend another user’s posts when quoting?

[The General]

Inwasn’t talking about torture, I was talking about putting pressure on the McCanns by announcing that they were being reinvestigated.  A bit of a difference.
PS Did yoy know it’s bad form to amend another user’s posts when quoting?

I didn't amend it, I snipped the pertinent part. The content remained the same. No-one wants a gigantic quote, three pages long......but duly noted.
And 'putting pressure on' is on the same spectrum of torture, way down the scale admittedly.
But in context, 'putting pressure' on a vulnerable person will have the same effect, they fold like a pillow case and admit anything.

[Venturi Swirl]

I didn't amend it, I snipped the pertinent part. The content remained the same. No-one wants a gigantic quote, three pages long......but duly noted.
And 'putting pressure on' is on the same spectrum of torture, way down the scale admittedly.
But in context, 'putting pressure' on a vulnerable person will have the same effect, they fold like a pillow case and admit anything.

Is this not a tactic the police are known to use to elicit a confession then?

[The General]

Is this not a tactic the police are known to use to elicit a confession then?

Yes, but it's generally frowned upon these days. It garners way more useless, inadmissible evidence as useful admissible. Saw it on CSI:Doncaster

[Robittybob1]

Is this not a tactic the police are known to use to elicit a confession then?

I would say some pressure has to be applied in a lot of cases to get a confession.  "Get it off your chest"   Appearing to be concerned for the perpetrator, "you'll feel better when you get it off your chest".
And when they confess, they face years of time in prison.  Did it help them to clear their conscience?

[Venturi Swirl]

Yes, but it's generally frowned upon these days. It garners way more useless, inadmissible evidence as useful admissible. Saw it on CSI:Doncaster

Haha, ok then it must be true. 

[Brietta]

No, I have said. the PJ suspected them of two things - they are the investigating team. The PJ have not declared them guilty or innocent. Just as suspects of a crime they have mentioned as a theory.

I would appreciate it if you would refrain from associating me with 'others' unless you can prove that I, with these named others, share the same thoughts. And while we're at it - it would be really helpful if you would stop from trying to create a 'gang' of sceptics all belonging to the same thought process as the supporters do. we are different and have different views and opinions.

As a mod this should be a natural task to accommplish. Being neutral and all that jazz

Please reread my post with more care than you did first time around ...

"Using your criteria" means exactly what it says when I say "yours"
"and the criteria which is used by others" also means precisely what it says when I say "by others"
You have not been associated with others ... you have your own billing.

As a mod I am required to moderate impartially ... as a member I am allowed the same freedom of speech as any other member, following the same rules.

[Brietta]

That's patently untrue. Hence why the old adage is 'torture doesn't work'; because eventually they will tell you anything, whether they did it or not.

Unless it seems, your name happens to be Leonor Cipriano.

[John]

The statistic that gives the McCanns hope – and could equally apply to Ben Needham.

"...the people who've got the most experience are the National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) in the United States, and one of the earliest things that stuck with me ever since then is the younger [they are] at the time a child is taken, the more likely they've been taken to be kept alive." Gerry McCann

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1115956/madeleine-mccann-disappearance-netflix-documentary-kate-gerry-mccann-statistic-spt

[ShiningInLuz]

The statistic that gives the McCanns hope – and could equally apply to Ben Needham.

"...the people who've got the most experience are the National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) in the United States, and one of the earliest things that stuck with me ever since then is the younger [they are] at the time a child is taken, the more likely they've been taken to be kept alive." Gerry McCann

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1115956/madeleine-mccann-disappearance-netflix-documentary-kate-gerry-mccann-statistic-spt

So why not Amelie?  Any thoughts?

[G-Unit]

The statistic that gives the McCanns hope – and could equally apply to Ben Needham.

"...the people who've got the most experience are the National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) in the United States, and one of the earliest things that stuck with me ever since then is the younger [they are] at the time a child is taken, the more likely they've been taken to be kept alive." Gerry McCann

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1115956/madeleine-mccann-disappearance-netflix-documentary-kate-gerry-mccann-statistic-spt

Stranger abductions are rare, especially involving very young children. I think it would be difficult to predict anything from such small numbers of cases.

According to the federal governmebt only about 100 cases per year can be classified as abductions by strangers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_in_the_United_States

in 2010-2011 only 11 stranger abductions in the US involved children between the ages of 3 anf 5 years.
https://reason.com/2017/03/31/kidnapping-stats/

[faithlilly]

So why not Amelie?  Any thoughts?

Absolutely. She would have been lighter and therefore easier to lift from her bed and carry away, through limited vocabulary would have had less likely  to alert strangers to her true identity and also would have had less memory of her former life as time went by....and of course she was a younger, mirror image of Madeleine.