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Offline xtina

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #300 on: October 17, 2018, 04:36:50 PM »
Compare Madeleine in the red dress to this photograph (also full frontal).  When was this taken, as Madeleine looks a lot older in this one IMO




exactly sunny.....

looking at that ....and the one in red dress ....

is like looking at two different children......


how strange is that ,.....they complained the PJ wasn't doing anything...

yet they not only contaminated...the room with 20 people trampling around...

but also it seems a photo that didn't look like maddie as she was ...at the time she went missing...


you would think imo ....they didn't want her found...



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Offline John

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #301 on: October 17, 2018, 04:51:05 PM »


exactly sunny.....

looking at that ....and the one in red dress ....

is like looking at two different children......


how strange is that ,.....they complained the PJ wasn't doing anything...

yet they not only contaminated...the room with 20 people trampling around...

but also it seems a photo that didn't look like maddie as she was ...at the time she went missing...


you would think imo ....they didn't want her found...

I would say that that photo of her in the Everton football shirt was the best one.

Now...can we all get back to topic please. TY
« Last Edit: October 17, 2018, 04:53:19 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #302 on: October 17, 2018, 08:36:45 PM »

Compare the photo Madeleine given to the police [in red dress]  a full facial photo,  compare it to other photo's of missing children,  the police ask for a full facial photo,  details of height etc are given as well.   Madeleine had a birth mark on her leg is that shown?  No it isn't.
What parent would take a photo of their child highlighting their birthmarks?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #303 on: October 17, 2018, 08:46:06 PM »
I would say that that photo of her in the Everton football shirt was the best one.

Now...can we all get back to topic please. TY
The only evidence we actually have on the case after Madeleine went missing are the photos used in the posters or news paper articles, or videos released by the parents or at least family and friends (we really don't know where they came from).

If the released photos are not a logical choice, I feel that act becomes suspicious, and one might think it supports a theory she isn't alive.  I think this is why a discussion on the released photos is one of the best clues and is "on topic" believe it or not.
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Offline xtina

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #304 on: October 18, 2018, 11:17:47 AM »
The only evidence we actually have on the case after Madeleine went missing are the photos used in the posters or news paper articles, or videos released by the parents or at least family and friends (we really don't know where they came from).

If the released photos are not a logical choice, I feel that act becomes suspicious, and one might think it supports a theory she isn't alive.  I think this is why a discussion on the released photos is one of the best clues and is "on topic" believe it or not.

Well i agree with you ... I think..

Quite a few things were suspicious at the begining ....

to think maddie dead rathere than alive...



like kmcc running out apartment ...and leaving twins

yet she knew maddie had been abducted...

if she was so near why ...didnt she shout...

why waste time searching apatrment ...when the window was wide open

if she knew maddie had been abducted straight away...

The photo released ....was not an accurate one...

as said it showed her eye...who was going to see it at a glance..

it should have been how maddie physically looked...

they let 20 or so people in searching ...

yet she knew maddie had been abducted.

Why did they not search for her..

They left the twins in creche ...the very next day.

yet it could have been anyone in that complex...

why did they not doubt T7...surley you would trust no one ...

If thought abducted ...it could have been an inside job....

You would surley want a reconstruction...

the time line scribbled on maddies book...how could you think that logicliy

Dissing mrs fenn ...instead of wanting to know if she had seen anything...

going back to the photo they gave in pink ...and red dress...

that would have planted in peoples minds ...

a complete different illusion of how maddie looked....

so in statements was, it maddie they were actually talkig about...

when that picture looks more like one of tapas child...

etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.....

there has not been one single thing to say maddie is alive...

Imo the mccs displayed more that maddie was dead ...than alive..

my post is all my opinion...

Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #305 on: October 18, 2018, 11:34:53 AM »
Well i agree with you ... I think..

Quite a few things were suspicious at the begining ....

to think maddie dead rathere than alive...



like kmcc running out apartment ...and leaving twins

yet she knew maddie had been abducted...

if she was so near why ...didnt she shout...

why waste time searching apatrment ...when the window was wide open

if she knew maddie had been abducted straight away...

The photo released ....was not an accurate one...

as said it showed her eye...who was going to see it at a glance..

it should have been how maddie physically looked...

they let 20 or so people in searching ...

yet she knew maddie had been abducted.

Why did they not search for her..

They left the twins in creche ...the very next day.

yet it could have been anyone in that complex...

why did they not doubt T7...surely you would trust no one ...

If thought abducted ...it could have been an inside job....

You would surely want a reconstruction...

the time line scribbled on maddies book...how could you think that logicliy

Dissing mrs fenn ...instead of wanting to know if she had seen anything...

going back to the photo they gave in pink ...and red dress...

that would have planted in peoples minds ...

a complete different illusion of how maddie looked....

so in statements was, it maddie they were actually talkig about...

when that picture looks more like one of tapas child...

etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.....

there has not been one single thing to say maddie is alive...

Imo the mccs displayed more that maddie was dead ...than alive..

my post is all my opinion...
""no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive.  Right so you think they point to dead rather than alive.

I think your point about Mrs Fenn is right.  Other points are debatable IMO.
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Offline Brietta

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #306 on: October 18, 2018, 12:40:15 PM »
Well i agree with you ... I think..

Quite a few things were suspicious at the begining ....

to think maddie dead rathere than alive...



like kmcc running out apartment ...and leaving twins

yet she knew maddie had been abducted...

if she was so near why ...didnt she shout...

why waste time searching apatrment ...when the window was wide open

if she knew maddie had been abducted straight away...

The photo released ....was not an accurate one...

as said it showed her eye...who was going to see it at a glance..

it should have been how maddie physically looked...

they let 20 or so people in searching ...

yet she knew maddie had been abducted.

Why did they not search for her..

They left the twins in creche ...the very next day.

yet it could have been anyone in that complex...

why did they not doubt T7...surley you would trust no one ...

If thought abducted ...it could have been an inside job....

You would surley want a reconstruction...

the time line scribbled on maddies book...how could you think that logicliy

Dissing mrs fenn ...instead of wanting to know if she had seen anything...

going back to the photo they gave in pink ...and red dress...

that would have planted in peoples minds ...

a complete different illusion of how maddie looked....

so in statements was, it maddie they were actually talkig about...

when that picture looks more like one of tapas child...

etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.....

there has not been one single thing to say maddie is alive...

Imo the mccs displayed more that maddie was dead ...than alive..

my post is all my opinion...

From the PJ

To: The Assistant Prosecutor
Public Ministry


Date: 04-05-2007



Subject: Request for Divulgation by means of the Press


As it is of clear interest to the investigation of the case in reference, I have the honour to ask you to authorise the divulgation of the disappearance of the young girl Madeleine McCann by means of the organs of the press, with the aim of obtaining information leading to her whereabouts.

I enclose a model for divulgation.

With best compliments

The Coordinator of the Investigation.

G. Amaral
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MADELINE.htm



Please may we have less of this nonsense regarding photographs.
Madeleine's photograph was released into the public domain in accordance with Portuguese law at the request of the case coordinator Goncalo Amaral.

As far as the rest of your list is concerned in my opinion it has all been discussed ad nauseam ...  bringing to mind the thought ... on how many occasions is it necessary to reinvent the wheel?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline xtina

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #307 on: October 18, 2018, 12:56:38 PM »

From the PJ

To: The Assistant Prosecutor
Public Ministry


Date: 04-05-2007



Subject: Request for Divulgation by means of the Press


As it is of clear interest to the investigation of the case in reference, I have the honour to ask you to authorise the divulgation of the disappearance of the young girl Madeleine McCann by means of the organs of the press, with the aim of obtaining information leading to her whereabouts.

I enclose a model for divulgation.

With best compliments

The Coordinator of the Investigation.

G. Amaral
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MADELINE.htm



Please may we have less of this nonsense regarding photographs.
Madeleine's photograph was released into the public domain in accordance with Portuguese law at the request of the case coordinator Goncalo Amaral.

As far as the rest of your list is concerned in my opinion it has all been discussed ad nauseam ...  bringing to mind the thought ... on how many occasions is it necessary to reinvent the wheel?


don't know what your point is here....

they can only publish the photo they were given...

Also known as maddie.....

Didn't mccs say she is never called maddie....

so who give that info....

seems like you don't approve ...

but it is just some of my reasons why

although not evidence ... maddie is not alive imo

there is no evidence to say she is..

Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Sunny

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #308 on: October 18, 2018, 01:20:21 PM »


Please may we have less of this nonsense regarding photographs.
Madeleine's photograph was released into the public domain in accordance with Portuguese law at the request of the case coordinator Goncalo Amaral.

As far as the rest of your list is concerned in my opinion it has all been discussed ad nauseam ...  bringing to mind the thought ... on how many occasions is it necessary to reinvent the wheel?
Apologies for snipping your post Brietta but it made a very long post to quote.   

You may have discussed the choice of photographs to share "ad nauseam" but some of us have not so are we to be penalised for not joining in the case until recently?   

The posts that have been shared so far have all be relevant to the case, none have been abusive or unpleasant so I cannot understand what your problem is. 

I believe the choice of photographs was made using the most photogenic ones rather than the most accurate representative of what Madeleine looked at that time.

All IMO of course.
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Offline Lace

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #309 on: October 18, 2018, 02:37:53 PM »
What parent would take a photo of their child highlighting their birthmarks?

Did I say the parents took a photo of their child highlighting her birthmarks?   No.   extina was saying they should have shown the photo of Madeleine in the play area as it shows her height etc.  I said they want a full facial photo and they don't give out all details of the child such as a birthmark.   

Offline Lace

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #310 on: October 18, 2018, 02:41:30 PM »
Madeleine in the red dress give a clear full facial of Madeleine.    Why would they not give a good photo of her?  They obviously thought it was the best one and I would think the parents would be the best judge of that.   All this oh she looks younger in that one, she looks older in that one,  is nonsense.

Offline Sunny

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #311 on: October 18, 2018, 03:48:34 PM »
Madeleine in the red dress give a clear full facial of Madeleine.    Why would they not give a good photo of her?  They obviously thought it was the best one and I would think the parents would be the best judge of that.   All this oh she looks younger in that one, she looks older in that one,  is nonsense.

Do you really think that questioning their using a photograph of a younger looking Madeleine is "nonsense"?   Surely if they wanted to help people out there searching for her they would use the best photograph available and the red dress is not the best photograph as she is clearly much younger in that one.
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Offline xtina

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #312 on: October 18, 2018, 04:15:23 PM »
Madeleine in the red dress give a clear full facial of Madeleine.    Why would they not give a good photo of her?  They obviously thought it was the best one and I would think the parents would be the best judge of that.   All this oh she looks younger in that one, she looks older in that one,  is nonsense.


No one has said maddie looked older ....it was as she was....

It was a likeness of her as she was when she went missing...

clearer for identification purposes....which was the reason for it...

As for the mccs judgment....

didn't work out well on the checking either did it ...IMO...
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #313 on: October 18, 2018, 06:34:41 PM »
Did I say the parents took a photo of their child highlighting her birthmarks?   No.   extina was saying they should have shown the photo of Madeleine in the play area as it shows her height etc.  I said they want a full facial photo and they don't give out all details of the child such as a birthmark.
Well I do find your posts a bit confusing sometimes but checking back you said: "Madeleine had a birth mark on her leg is that shown?  No it isn't."

Are now saying you meant "Madeleine had a birth mark on her leg is that mentioned?  No it isn't.   
Well it is in the document cited. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10243.msg496797#msg496797 
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Offline xtina

Re: "no evidence" to support a theory missing girl Madeleine McCann is alive
« Reply #314 on: October 18, 2018, 07:31:27 PM »
Well I do find your posts a bit confusing sometimes but checking back you said: "Madeleine had a birth mark on her leg is that shown?  No it isn't."

Are now saying you meant "Madeleine had a birth mark on her leg is that mentioned?  No it isn't.   
Well it is in the document cited. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10243.msg496797#msg496797


I think she meant the close up younger maddie photo was sufficient...

for identification purposes,...if anyone spotted her...


IMO the photo as she was was.... age appropriate and height...

more important than any defects maddie had...
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

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