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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Kevin Craigie and the Joint enterprise murder of Kenneth Rothwell in 1990. => Topic started by: Kevin Craigie on May 28, 2012, 02:24:40 PM
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I shall post any Joint Enterprise Law related to my case here
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http://www.insidetime.org/articleview.asp?a=734&c=guilty_by_association
11/6/2010 Kevin Craigie - nathanielcraigie@hotmail.co.uk
In 1990 I was convicted under Joint Enterprise. The jury twice requested to acquitt me and convict the sole perpetrator. They were instructed that they must convict or acquitt both. On the final day of the circus, the Judge then announced in the jurys abscence that he was seriously considering acquitting both defendants rather than the possibility of the defendant Craigie suffering the consequences of an unjustified conviction. The jury convicted ten to two. They call this justice ?
To this day I continue challenging injustice, and shall do for years to come.
Kevin can we ask why your statement to the police differs from what you have written here
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Peter you surprised you didn't get a response to your Q. Of course not 8)-)))
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Why would i be surprised he did not answer ?????. He describes himself as a man who's word is his bond. He will be along soon I'm sure @)(++(*. He may be in disguise though.
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8**8:/:
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He hasn't responded to my reply in Europe gay personals either 8**8:/:
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Yes i did Billy No Pants. I sent you a stiff reply 8)--))
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Hes had to see the doc about his trush the yogurt didnt work
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It Wasn't Thrush, I found out it was money spiders and now i walk sideways. If you keep on i am going to call the MET, need to know if its going to be sunny tomorrow. 8(>((
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hahahahahahaaha I know who Andrew P is and its NOT YOU LOL
Karen are you Andrew P then? Hairs the same.. 8**8:/:
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Hes had to see the doc about his trush the yogurt didnt work
Hope he tried natural live yoghurt and not strawberry munch bunch.
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or Bonnie Langford whom she resembles
Busted - didn't Emerald Harker say this Kevin
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I got carried away being Michael !!! Not going back tonight.
Dont forget to tell your lawyer this will you Kevin 8(0(*
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just watch. the calmer you are the more they lose it. It is actually quite funny to watch. I got your back so dont worry and so will others
Karen the above is an admittance of joint enterprise with you and Kevin and others 8(0(*
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kick their heids in lol
Karen that a threat then, whose head do you want to kick in
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whoops.....busted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8@??)(
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Karen Torley/KC why have you slated Paddy Joe Hill he wont be very happy when he finds out what a thing to say
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Leave my trolly mates alone or else. 8()(((@#
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karen torley slags off paddy hill of the birmingham 6 but i bet she kisses his backside to his face
karen you should learn when to keep your mouth shut
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HELP........................................
SOMEONE HAS STOLEN THE TABS ON KC NEW WEB SITE.....YES THE ONE SET UP BY NONE OTHER THAN KT !!!!!!!....SHAME THAT!!! CLEARLY KC WASNT READY TO GO PUBLIC AFTER ALL 8(>(( @)(++(* 8)-))) 8)--)) ?{)(** 8(>(( 8()-000( 8**8:/: 8((()*/ 8@??)(
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Oh dam and i am waiting to be approved @)(++(*
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Oh dam and i am waiting to be approved @)(++(*
LMAO.... @)(++(*
oh dear and all the hard work KT put into that too ....oh well back to the drawing board they go....bet this time they dont publish it before they have tweaked it 8()-000(
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Oh well just as well we got the info in its unedited form. 8((()*/ 8((()*/ 8((()*/ @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* 8-)(--) 8-)(--) 8-)(--) 8-)(--) 8-)(--) 8-)(--) 8-)(--) 8)--)) 8)--)) 8)--)) 8)--))
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Wonder how Karen Torley will feel when her activities are exposed for all to see, especially where shes run off at the mouth about certain people @)(++(* @)(++(*
The writings on the wall @)(++(* 8(0(*
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MMMmmmm well it certainly isn't on the website is it @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
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MMMmmmm well it certainly isn't on the website is it @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
How will she explain that away then @)(++(* 8(0(*
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Shes played KC and tucked him up like a kipper @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
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Played him or played along with him? PURE EVIL........!Hurting people already suffering the pain of a MOJ.
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I think I went too far on mine where I put I'd worked for Nasa for 9 years when really I meant Nisa corner shop? @)(++(*
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lol Joanne.......that no doubt was a typo! It is just pure evil lies that make me 8()(((@#
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I was kidding. I heard something similar on the TV about people bigging their CV up and thought it was funny.
Did KC ever visit the boards after his busy weekend? What I've read this morning, was it him or a bit of a laugh?
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no idea Joanne
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I don't think he wants to play anymore, if you can't stand the heat and all that 8(0(*
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he cant resist ....he thinks that "hidemyass.com " will hide him @)(++(*....well thats what KT told him as she uses it all the time to do her trolling ,...dont you Karen 8)--))
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he cant resist ....he thinks that "hidemyass.com " will hide him @)(++(*....well thats what KT told him as she uses it all the time to do her trolling ,...dont you Karen 8)--))
is that how they are able to send out fake ip's ??? how devious of them. ?8)@)-)
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he cant resist ....he thinks that "hidemyass.com " will hide him @)(++(*....well thats what KT told him as she uses it all the time to do her trolling ,...dont you Karen 8)--))
kevins police interview is extremely telling. he seems to slip up over several crucial points. when questioned about his natural hair colour, he struggles to tell them he is ginger.
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Then Kevin the King and Karen Queen of the North took all Judah; and they carried away the stones of Ramah, and the timber thereof, wherewith Baasha was building; and he built therewith Geba and Mizpah.
And at that time Hanani the seer came to Asa king of Judah, and said unto him, Because thou hast relied on the king of Syria, and not relied on the LORD thy God, therefore is the host of the king of Syria escaped out of thine hand.
Were not the Ethiopians and the Lubims a huge host, with very many chariots and horsemen? yet, because thou didst rely on the LORD, he delivered them into thine hand.
For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars.
Then Asa was wroth with the seer, and put him in a prison house; for he was in a rage with him because of this thing. And Asa oppressed some of the people the same time.
And, behold, the acts of Asa, first and last, lo, they are written in the book of the kings of Judah and Israel.
Praise the Lord and Kevin and Karen
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he cant resist ....he thinks that "hidemyass.com " will hide him @)(++(*....well thats what KT told him as she uses it all the time to do her trolling ,...dont you Karen 8)--))
Karen Trolley has a friend in Aldershot who posts her nonsense on her behalf. I wonder if all those people on her facebook account knew about this what they would think of her? @)(++(*
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Then Kevin the King and Karen Queen of the North took all Judah; and they carried away the stones of Ramah, and the timber thereof, wherewith Baasha was building; and he built therewith Geba and Mizpah.
And at that time Hanani the seer came to Asa king of Judah, and said unto him, Because thou hast relied on the king of Syria, and not relied on the LORD thy God, therefore is the host of the king of Syria escaped out of thine hand.
Were not the Ethiopians and the Lubims a huge host, with very many chariots and horsemen? yet, because thou didst rely on the LORD, he delivered them into thine hand.
For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars.
Then Asa was wroth with the seer, and put him in a prison house; for he was in a rage with him because of this thing. And Asa oppressed some of the people the same time.
And, behold, the acts of Asa, first and last, lo, they are written in the book of the kings of Judah and Israel.
Praise the Lord and Kevin and Karen
You are quite the theologian Kevin, aren't you. Why don't you answer the questions though?
You are beginning to act like Middleton and Beck when asked about their case.
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It often happens that guilty people are afraid to discuss their case on an open forum. Could former
rentboy Kevin be one of these?
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he cant resist ....he thinks that "hidemyass.com " will hide him @)(++(*....well thats what KT told him as she uses it all the time to do her trolling ,...dont you Karen 8)--))
Karen Trolley has a friend in Aldershot who posts her nonsense on her behalf. I wonder if all those people on her facebook account knew about this what they would think of her? @)(++(*
Nevermind facebook @)(++(*
She carries on without a care in the world but all will become clear to her and her 'friends' soon @)(++(*
Truth catches up with us all as KC is now finding out 8@??)(
Herod
Soloman
The list is getting longer and longer 8(0(*
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It often happens that guilty people are afraid to discuss their case on an open forum. Could former rentboy Kevin be one of these?
What makes you think he was a rentboy Dave? Is there any proof of this? We know they were loitering around a gay bar and that Fuller picked Rothwell up for sex (according to Craigie's own testimony) but we don't know if Craigie was up for it as well.
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Karen Trolley is a respected Human Rights leader is she not ?
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Then Kevin the King and Karen Queen of the North took all Judah
WHAT A SICK & TWISTED **** YOU ARE!
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It often happens that guilty people are afraid to discuss their case on an open forum. Could former rentboy Kevin be one of these?
What makes you think he was a rentboy Dave? Is there any proof of this? We know they were loitering around a gay bar and that Fuller picked Rothwell up for sex (according to Craigie's own testimony) but we don't know if Craigie was up for it as well.
there is reference to kevin being a rentboy in his police interview.
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I might just leave the circus too and delete myself. so there you go.
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It often happens that guilty people are afraid to discuss their case on an open forum. Could former rentboy Kevin be one of these?
What makes you think he was a rentboy Dave? Is there any proof of this? We know they were loitering around a gay bar and that Fuller picked Rothwell up for sex (according to Craigie's own testimony) but we don't know if Craigie was up for it as well.
kevin also uses the name nathaniel http://atomicboards.com/board.pl?user=gayeurope&board=6305&sid&mode=profile&action=view&who=39091&last=profile&lasta=viewall&fb_source=message
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Can I ask a question? This particular board, why is it when a few people post, the guest profile count goes through the roof? It doesn't happen on any other board (well, I don't think it has)? Its making me uneasy.
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I might just leave the circus too and delete myself. so there you go.
INFORMATION:
Username: nathaniel
Real Name: nathaniel Craigie
Status: User
Birthday: may
Location: derby
Interests:
Occupation: law
School or company:
Post count: 0
Joined: April 3, 2006 at 11:22:48
Last logged-in: April 3, 2006 at 21:08:07
Last post/PM:
http://atomicboards.com/board.pl?user=gayeurope&board=6305&sid&mode=profile&action=view&who=39091&last=profile&lasta=viewall&fb_source=message
(http://i.imgur.com/cpZ17.jpg)
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Kevin Craigie
Crown Mews
Stockbrook Park
Derby
Derbyshire
DE22 3PY
nathanielcraigie@hotmail.co.uk
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cause ppl dont want to identify themselves or get involved. If I was innocent I wouldnt be coming on here thats for sure. i would be wanting support and proper discussion not pppl slagging me off like they do on here. thats why most dont get involved
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who was garland gairland.......silly me that too is KC.
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cause ppl dont want to identify themselves or get involved. If I was innocent I wouldnt be coming on here thats for sure. i would be wanting support and proper discussion not pppl slagging me off like they do on here. thats why most dont get involved
Then why set a guest account up, you can look round without one.
Kevin isn't in Derby now.
Te cases which are genuine get help, the liars do not, you don't join a MOJ site with a phoney case-surely?
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cause ppl dont want to identify themselves or get involved. If I was innocent I wouldnt be coming on here thats for sure. i would be wanting support and proper discussion not pppl slagging me off like they do on here. thats why most dont get involved
Craigie if Admin can confirm this is you - YOU have just made a public admission of guilt!!!
If I was innocent I wouldn't be coming on here thats for sure
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thank God people like you are not on the bench then Joanne. Your very eager to act as Judge Jury and Executioner luv. and we all know the reasons why dont we luv
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No we don't, care to elaborate?
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Joanne that was a footer he used to use with the Derby address and establishes the link to he being Nathaniel Craigie thereon the link to the gay forum.
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Karen Trolley is a respected Human Rights leader is she not ?
well if that's what she calls herself then yes.....otherwise shes a TROLL
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thank God people like you are not on the bench then Joanne. Your very eager to act as Judge Jury and Executioner luv. and we all know the reasons why dont we luv
There you go Craigie - the ATTACKS begin!! You can't help yourself can you?!
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Thank you Stephanie.
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I have read through these postings and feel sadder than I have felt for a long long time. I can see who some these anonymous posters are from now on will have nothing more to do with JENGBA. My family will get on by ourselves thank you very much.
Posted by Kevin Craigie
Confirmed by Admin
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Did you get the postal order for £10 Joanne?
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I have read through these postings and feel sadder than I have felt for a long long time. I can see who some these anonymous posters are from now on will have nothing more to do with JENGBA. My family will get on by ourselves thank you very much.
I'm sorry that you feel this way, please don't jusdge JENGbA by the things written on forums, please speak as you find and if they have and are good to you, stay with them. You could put your case up on here and people will help you, I can absolutely say the people who run the site are knowledgeable and they will help you.
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Thank you Stephanie.
No problem Joanne. Ignore him, he has shown his true colours and with Karen Torley's help the truth is now out!
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No, no money as yet, you can rest assured I will inform you of my joy when I get it back!
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I have read through these postings and feel sadder than I have felt for a long long time. I can see who some these anonymous posters are from now on will have nothing more to do with JENGBA. My family will get on by ourselves thank you very much.
Posted by Kevin Craigie
Confirmed by Admin
8((()*/ so he still wont answer the questions ??
you can be read like a book kevin .........best run along cos we got your number 118 @)(++(*
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I have read through these postings and feel sadder than I have felt for a long long time. I can see who some these anonymous posters are from now on will have nothing more to do with JENGBA. My family will get on by ourselves thank you very much.
I'm sorry that you feel this way, please don't jusdge JENGbA by the things written on forums, please speak as you find and if they have and are good to you, stay with them. You could put your case up on here and people will help you, I can absolutely say the people who run the site are knowledgeable and they will help you.
Joanne, Frustrated is Craigie! Don't get sucked in! This is what he does best! What are you sorry for?
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Yes, I know that now, I'm a divvy.
I have asked admin to remove it! 8-)(--)
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He will now be an emotional wreck at the "wounded soldier act" having been exposed.No choice other than to snipe whilst looking to recruit likeminded trolls to back him up.
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Hey Kevin dont involve us in your lies.
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He will now be an emotional wreck at the "wounded soldier act" having been exposed.No choice other than to snipe whilst looking to recruit likeminded trolls to back him up.
0/10
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Yes, I know that now, I'm a divvy.
I have asked admin to remove it! 8-)(--)
You are not a divvy Joanne! I have had others play me as well; been there got the t-shirt!
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Do you work for the co-op Joanne 8)--)) 8)--)) 8)--)) 8)--)) 8)--)) 8)--))
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No @)(++(*
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He will now be an emotional wreck at the "wounded soldier act" having been exposed.No choice other than to snipe whilst looking to recruit likeminded trolls to back him up.
You know him too well Realtruth 8(0(*
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Heard he even got financial rewards for returning dogs to their rightful owners 8-)(--) Act of human decency but how many dogs can you find? 8)-)))
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You seem jealous. Is this cause you cant be a Craigies Angel ?? Warrington, Bermondsey, Ipswich and Surrey can always apply
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Heard he even got financial rewards for returning dogs to their rightful owners 8-)(--) Act of human decency but how many dogs can you find? 8)-)))
What a martyr... 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)(
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You seem jealous. Is this cause you cant be a Craigies Angel ?? Warrington, Bermondsey, Ipswich and Surrey can always apply Oh thank the Lord that excludes me 8((()*/
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You seem jealous. Is this cause you cant be a Craigies Angel ?? Warrington, Bermondsey, Ipswich and Surrey can always apply
Do you give all your victims a name? What name did you give Mr Rothwell (RIP)
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To be perfectly honest i wouldnt want to be an Angel 8(8-)). But the sooner you answer the questions Kevin, the sooner we can move on. Your response would be most intresting now we have documentation you have been unable to censor.
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Answers please Kevin now that you have achieved exposure to your own MOJ 8-)(--)
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Why would our Kevin want to get associated with what is clearly a hate sight ? You might just be able to engage in adult discussion once we have a professional site in operation.
Craigies Angel
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Please KEVIN tell us your story as it happened as from the documentation now available it seems you were convicted in accordance with the law. I am most intrested in hearing how you intend to portray yourself as a MOJ. You were there, you were in the house, you touched the body while it was still alive. You stole the car.
Please do explain Kevin. Rest in Peace Mr Rothwell. (Architect)
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Why would our Kevin want to get associated with what is clearly a hate sight ? You might just be able to engage in adult discussion once we have a professional site in operation.
Craigies Angel
We have a good forum here, we exposed our Kev 8@??)(.
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interesting page 4 of this statement....it was marks turn this time
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so how many times had you done this Kevin??? was that how you survived ? robbing defenceless, vulnerable people ? NOTHING CHANGED THEN?
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Why would our Kevin want to get associated with what is clearly a hate sight ? You might just be able to engage in adult discussion once we have a professional site in operation.
Craigies Angel
Kevin, you might perceive this to be a hate site if you are indeed guilty of the charge. You obviously aren't able to answer the questions and this will undoubtedly be clear by anyone reading this.
We have given you several opportunities to put your case but you constantly fail to do so Kevin. You apparently have a history of avoiding the most difficult questions.
As you seem to want to mark my observations tonight using the pseudonym 'Sherlock' then lets see if you can respond to these observations.
According to your pal Mark Fuller, you were the leader of the gang sort of speak and he claims that he was scared of you? He also states that you and him were on the rob and had apparently robbed other men on other occasions. Fuller says he was surprised that you gave a statement to police and was basically calling you a 'grass'
What do you have to say about that Kev?
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Why would our Kevin want to get associated with what is clearly a hate sight ? You might just be able to engage in adult discussion once we have a professional site in operation.
Craigies Angel
Why do you refer to your self as an angel Kevin when your past is closer associated with that of a Devil?
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8-)(--) Come on Kev talk to us hatefull people, Mind i dont remember ever leaving a man to Die 8(8-))
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Angel........... Lucifer was one too ! Spot on John 8((()*/
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Tell us about the phone book book Kev, were you going to use it to ring Killers r us ?????? @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
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Who disposed of the Murder Weapon in the skip Kev, silly me it was you @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
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Angel........... Lucifer was one too ! Spot on John 8((()*/
Kevin (Irish Caoimhghín) derives from the Irish caomh (Old Irish cóem) "kind, honest, handsome" and -gin (Old Irish gein) "birth".
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The cushion left by the deceased puzzles me Kev, can you explain it to us. ??????? 8-)(--)
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Craigie's Angel Kevin just posted on facebook...
Yet another good week, and yet another good night out in London. Leicester Square looks brill at night when its all lit up.
http://www.facebook.com/justiceonappeal
For someone who hasn't left his flat in Primrose Gardens all evening he certainly gets about! @)(++(*
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Cant see it I'm blocked @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* Even though i did send him a friend request @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
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Craigie's Angel Kevin just posted on facebook...
Yet another good week, and yet another good night out in London. Leicester Square looks brill at night when its all lit up.
http://www.facebook.com/justiceonappeal
For someone who hasn't left his flat in Primrose Gardens all evening he certainly gets about! @)(++(*
More lies from Kevin Craigie then.
Is that a photo of Karen Torley on your cover photo on facebook? @)(++(*
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Reading through some other boards, do you think he has a hotline to the MET? He seems to use the MET when he can't come up with any other ingenious whitty quip. Anyone else who calls the police usually gets an answer or a person about 3 months after the event, if at all! @)(++(*
Oh-he doesn't add 'friends' to his facebook account, most are strangers and people he hasn't even met.
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Reading through some other boards, do you think he has a hotline to the MET? He seems to use the MET when he can't come up with any other ingenious whitty quip. Anyone else who calls the police usually gets an answer or a person about 3 months after the event, if at all! @)(++(*
Oh-he doesn't add 'friends' to his facebook account, most are strangers and people he hasn't even met.
Do you honestly think the Metropolitan Police are interested in what a convicted murderer has to say? @)(++(*
He spends his time mollycoddling with anti death row activists in America. You will find that most of his 'friends' are based there and haven't got a clue what he is on about.
Something else I noticed about him, he keeps referring to deceased people like Ludovic Kennedy as his once supporters. Maybe we should ask Ludovic? Oh I forgot...he's dead!
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8-)(--) We could have seance and ask them @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*