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Offline Heriberto Janosch

White van ...
« on: May 25, 2013, 11:24:31 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2331016/Maddie-mystery-ex-soldier-camper-van-Police-contacted-Army-information-days-confirming-identified-new-persons-interest.html

Maddie mystery of ex-soldier and his camper van: Police contacted Army for information days before confirming they had identified new 'persons of interest'
While former guardsman Peter Verran has not been accused of any wrongdoing, the timing is significant
McCann family also wants to speak to him about his whereabouts at the time of Madeline's disappearance

Scotland Yard is investigating claims made by a former soldier in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
Days before confirming they had identified new ‘persons of interest’, officers from the Homicide and Serious Crime Command contacted the Army seeking information about Peter Verran.
While Mr Verran has not been accused of any wrongdoing, the timing is significant.

Ex-Guardsman Mr Verran first came to the attention of police in 2009 when he emerged to dispute the alibi of British child abuser Raymond Hewlett, 64.

Mr Verran first came to the attention of police in 2009 when he emerged to dispute the alibi of British child abuser Raymond Hewlett
Hewlett was living in the Algarve just an hour’s drive from where the youngster disappeared.
However, in publicly pointing the finger at Hewlett, who denied abducting Madeleine, Mr Verran apparently neglected to mention the disappearance of his own camper van within months of Madeleine’s disappearance, or the fact he had been in Portugal.
Those details, disclosed in documents held by the Royal British Legion, show he sought emergency funds from the organisation after claiming his van and all his possessions had been stolen.
The documents also reveal he travelled through Portugal.
When Mr Verran came forward, he was interviewed by Leicestershire Police, and by private investigators working for the McCanns, as an informant.
Mr Verran told of a conversation he had with Hewlett in September 2007 after they met at a Moroccan campsite.
Hewlett admitted to owning a white Transit-style van around the time of Madeleine’s disappearance – the van was similar to one seen parked near the Ocean Club.
Hewlett, who died in 2010, said in a newspaper interview that a blue Dodge truck was his only vehicle at the time.
A source close to the McCanns said Mr Verran made no mention of his camper van being stolen, or the time he spent in Portugal, to private detectives working for the family. It is not known what the former soldier told police.

‘We’d like Mr Verran to explain these omissions from his interviews with us, and say when he was in Portugal,’ said the source.
‘It is potentially interesting that this information has now emerged and we will be discussing this development with police.’
Earlier this month, Scotland Yard detectives approached the Army seeking to establish the whereabouts of 50-year-old Mr Verran’s military records.

A source close to the probe said: ‘There is almost certainly an innocent explanation behind the theft of Mr Verran’s van and his journeys through Portugal and Morocco.
'But he challenged Hewlett’s version of events without seemingly admitting he, too, was in Portugal, or that his only method of transport vanished.’
The Met would not confirm officers had sought Mr Verran’s Army records. The Ministry of Defence declined to comment.

Heri.

Offline sadie

Re: White van ...
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2013, 12:11:28 AM »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedo-raymond-hewlett-admits-visiting-395741

By Simon Wright Comments
Paedo Raymond Hewlett admits visiting Madeleine holiday flats 23 May 2009 22:20 Paedo's shock confession to holiday couple: 'I know Maddie resort very well..I’ve parked near flat several times.'


 Kate and Gerry McCann (pic: PA) The McCanns

The British paedophile linked to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has sensationally confessed to being outside her holiday apartment “many times”.

Convicted pervert Raymond Hewlett, 64, has admitted knowing the resort where the McCanns were holidaying “very well” and said he had parked a van close to their complex on several occasions.

And last night a man who shared a Morocco campsite with Hewlett and his family for three months described how the drifter was obsessed with the missing youngster.

Speaking exclusively to the Sunday Mirror, former Scots Guard Peter Verran, 46, revealed how Hewlett, his German wife Mariana, 33, and their six children arrived at the campsite where he was holidaying in Chefchaaouen in a battered Dodge truck. It was May 2007 – shortly after Madeleine’s disappearance.



 Peter Verran his wife wife Nisrine (pic: SM) The Verrans spent three months with Hewlett

“He seemed like an old hippy traveller who had dropped out,” said Peter, who runs an internet business selling antiques and collectibles from his home in Fowey, Cornwall.

“We got talking at the toilet block. He brought Madeleine up straight away. He said his three-year-old daughter looked like her.

“He was worried that because there had been reports that Madeleine may have been spirited away to Morocco, people might think his child was her. Then he suddenly said, ‘Madeleine’s not in Morocco’.

“I asked him what he meant and he said he knew Praia Da Luz really well. He knew the Ocean Club complex where the McCanns had been staying. He said he’d been there many times and had often parked his van close to the apartment.



 Raymond Hewlett (pic: SM) Raymond Hewlett at the campsite in Morocco in July 2007

“He said he knew the layout of the place, the flat and the restaurant where the McCanns and their friends had been eating when Maddie disappeared. He had a lot of detail about the layout. He said there was no way that the child could be taken without the parents seeing. He said they were lying.”

Yesterday it emerged that Portuguese police did speak to Hewlett about Madeleine’s disappearance – but ruled him out as a suspect.

Peter also revealed that pothead Hewlett made wild and unfounded claims that the McCanns – both doctors, from Rothley, Leics – were involved in their daughter’s disappearance.



 Raymond Hewlett's Truck (pic: SM) Verran took this photo of Hewlett relaxing

“One of Hewlett’s theories was that there had been an accident and Kate and Gerry had killed her and were trying to cover it up,” said Peter.

“He even made the crazy suggestion that her mum and dad had sold her to gipsies. He said it was common knowledge among locals that Praia Da Luz in general and the Ocean Club in particular was a magnet for Romanian gipsies who abduct and then traffic children.

"I asked him why he’d left and come to Morocco. He told me he’d had to leave Portugal in a hurry. He said he’d packed his family up in half an hour and just driven out of the area. That was just after Maddie was taken.”

Peter, who is partially disabled, met his Moroccan wife Nisrine, 25, when he was holidaying in Agadir.

They married in May 2007 and when they encountered Hewlett at the remote campsite, they were enjoying an extended honeymoon touring the country in a camper van.

“We’d been there a week or so when Hewlett and his family just rolled in in a big blue Dodge truck,” said Peter, who has two children from a previous marriage. “I didn’t see him for a few days. I just saw his wife and kids. She’d checked them in to the campsite and seemed to be handling all the paperwork. In Morocco, you have to have the right papers to stay anywhere. Looking back, it seems Hewlett was reluctant to be seen by anyone in authority.”

 Raymond Hewlett Raymond Hewlett

After a few days, Peter began bumping into Hewlett and they started to chat. “He told me he had been in Southern Ireland once but had to leave in a hurry,” said Peter. “He explained that he and his wife were travellers and they moved around a lot. He said he spent his days sitting around smoking dope while his six kids played.

“The kids were a bit weird. They were very withdrawn and couldn’t speak properly. They never went to school and spent all day playing in the mud.

“Hewlett told me he was ill and suffered with pains in his chest. One day he said, ‘I think I’ve got cancer’. I told him to go back to England to get checked out and to sort the kids out with a proper home. He said he didn’t want people poking their noses into his business.’’

Peter told how he and Nisrine would eat meals with Hewlett’s family – and Hewlett would often talk about Madeleine. “He went on and on about the McCanns and kept telling me all his theories about what he thought had happened,” said Peter. “Looking back, maybe it was a way of making sure we didn’t think he had anything to do with it.”

Peter, who spent six years in the Army before working with people with learning difficulties, recalled how in the three months they were all together he only saw Hewlett leave the camp once or twice. “Most of the time he stayed on the campsite,” he said. “He was never short of money though. He bought diesel, a motorbike and engine parts. I don’t know where he got his money from. He said he’d made cash from car boot sales.”

Then, one day in August 2007, Hewlett announced he and his family were leaving. “He said his wife’s visa had run out and his passport was out of date,” said Peter. “They packed up and left quickly.”

Peter and Nisrine returned to the UK in November 2007 and had occasional texts or phone calls from Hewlett. “He said he was back in Tavira, near Praia Da Luz, doing car boot sales,” Peter said.

“In June last year, he rang to say he had throat cancer. The next I heard they were in Spain. He called to ask for money and I sent him £50. I couldn’t bear the thought of his kids starving. I even offered to pay for him to come back to the UK. I didn’t get a reply and we lost touch.

“Then suddenly this week he was in the newspapers linked to Maddie’s disappearance. I could hardly believe my eyes. It was such a massive shock. It makes my blood run cold. We haven’t been able to sleep much since the news broke. I keep feeling guilty that I should have noticed something and gone to the police. But I just thought he was an odd drifter. I pray he hasn’t had anything to do with it, but now I just don’t know.”



 Raymond Hewlett's Truck (pic: SM) Hewlett arrived in Morocco in this blue truck. He had travelled there from Portugal

Detectives working for the McCanns are now investigating former trawlerman Hewlett. And officers from Leicestershire Police – the McCanns home force and in charge of liaising with Portuguese authorities – have said they want to speak to two British holidaymakers who tracked down Hewlett.

Cindy and Alan Thompson raised the alarm after they realised he and his family had been staying at a camping site an hour from Praia da Luz when Madeleine vanished. The couple helped to trace him to the hospital in Germany where he is being treated for throat cancer.

Last night Leicestershire Police were made aware of the Sunday Mirror’s new revelations. Hewlett is also wanted for questioning by West Yorkshire Police over a child sex attack in 1975 and by Greater Manchester Police investigating the 1975 abuse of an eight-year-old girl.

In 1972, he abducted and sexually assaulted a neighbour’s six-year-old daughter. He was sentenced to 18 months and released after a year. In 1978 he attempted to rape a nine-year-old girl and was jailed four years. In 1988 in Mold, Cheshire, he kidnapped and assaulted a 14-year-old girl and was jailed for six years.

He was described by one judge as “extremely dangerous” and once featured on a Crimestoppers list of Most Wanted Paedophiles.

simon.wright@sundaymirror.co.uk


Please note:  I have missed out a couple of the photographs

icabodcrane

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Re: White van ...
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2013, 12:25:33 AM »
Why are these  'old'  stories being rehashed by the Daily Mail  ?

I do not believe that someone in Scotland Yard is leaking information to the Mail  ...  so soon after Leveson that is highly unlikely

So who  is  generating  these  'been there, done that, got the Tee shirt'  stories  ?

Could it be Clarence Mitchell  ? 

Offline Eleanor

Re: White van ...
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2013, 12:41:10 AM »
This isn't even credible.  And people wonder why The Press should be gagged.

Whatever there is to do with this is already in the hands of Scotland Yard, and will have been for some considerable time.  Especially as we were all reading this about five years ago when The PJ were doing sweet b....r all about it.


Offline sadie

Re: White van ...
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2013, 12:44:14 AM »
No Icabod.

It is my 'fault' that it is there.  I posted it as a bit of backing to Heris OP.  To fill it out a bit. 

Yep it is old stuff, but some may not have seen it  .... or may have forgotten it.

Nothing to do with SY or Clarrie >>>> just me 8**8:/:

Offline Chinagirl

Re: White van ...
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2013, 12:45:13 AM »
Why should anyone be "leaking" these stories to the press?  As has been pointed out, these are old stories which are already on file, so they just have to be dug out and re-hashed.  Nothing to do with Scotland Yard, Clarence Mitchell or anyone outside the individual papers concerned.
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Offline John

Re: White van ...
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2013, 01:04:42 AM »
I think you did the right thing in posting the original article Sadie because I had forgotten about it.  It looks like Peter has shot his own bolt by selling his story to the Mirror about Hewlett.  He is now under the spotlight but for all the wrong reasons.  Let's be honest about this, nobody who was involved in the abduction of Madeleine is going to stick their neck out and blame someone else.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2013, 10:43:02 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

icabodcrane

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Re: White van ...
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 01:10:00 AM »
Why should anyone be "leaking" these stories to the press?  As has been pointed out, these are old stories which are already on file, so they just have to be dug out and re-hashed.  Nothing to do with Scotland Yard, Clarence Mitchell or anyone outside the individual papers concerned.

But these rehashed stories are now being presented within the context of Operation Grange   ...  the same old stuff is being recycled with the intimation that it is 'new'  information uncovered by Scotland Yard

Where is that coming from ?

icabodcrane

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Re: White van ...
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2013, 01:15:57 AM »
Just me

Sorry.  Seem to have caused a problem 8(8-))

No no ...  not you sadie   (  yours  was a follow up post )   ...  I was refering to the original post by Heri,  which is a rehashed story being presented in the Mail as a  'breaking news'  story

Offline John

Re: White van ...
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2013, 01:39:04 AM »
They are rehashing old news because they have nothing else...zilch...nada...
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline sadie

Re: White van ...
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2013, 01:41:08 AM »
Whilst I agree that much of it is old hat, certain parts I cannot recall having read before ... and I researched it all very thoroughly.

I never knew this bit
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....Mr Verran apparently neglected to mention the disappearance of his own camper van within months of Madeleine’s disappearance, or the fact he had been in Portugal.
Those details, disclosed in documents held by the Royal British Legion, show he sought emergency funds from the organisation after claiming his van and all his possessions had been stolen.
The documents also reveal he travelled through Portugal....
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I dont remember seeing that bit and a couple of other bits before





I feel a theory coming up @)(++(* 8(>(( 

No not really, but there is one connected with sightings, with Hewlett, Varren, the other british couple ?the Thompsons? and Morocco.

Maybe one day when things are quiet and if John has the time and patience with me to help with the maps.  But not yet

Offline Puffin

Re: White van ...
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2013, 08:01:16 AM »
They are rehashing old news because they have nothing else...zilch...nada...
If you want to see exactly what the Mail is capable of, ie deliberate lies, misinformation, made up stories, and so on there is a book called Flat Earth News by Nick Davies.  I saw it mentioned on another forum, bought a copy and was gobsmacked at the whole chapter given over the the Mail and its antics.  There is a list of all the libel cases against them and the out of court settlements they have made.  So anything they print I discard immediately out of hand, they have a very bad reputation for distortion and downright deviousness.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2013, 08:37:11 AM by Puffin »
Truth is the property of no individual but is the treasure of all men.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

debunker

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Re: White van ...
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2013, 08:06:44 AM »
Why are these  'old'  stories being rehashed by the Daily Mail  ?

I do not believe that someone in Scotland Yard is leaking information to the Mail  ...  so soon after Leveson that is highly unlikely

So who  is  generating  these  'been there, done that, got the Tee shirt'  stories  ?

Could it be Clarence Mitchell  ?

Leveson clamped down on unauthorised leaking.

This could be authorised to put pressure on Portugal!

registrar

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Re: White van ...
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2013, 03:06:42 PM »
They are rehashing old news because they have nothing else...zilch...nada...
If you want to see exactly what the Mail is capable of, ie deliberate lies, misinformation, made up stories, and so on there is a book called Flat Earth News by Nick Davies.  I saw it mentioned on another forum, bought a copy and was gobsmacked at the whole chapter given over the the Mail and its antics.  There is a list of all the libel cases against them and the out of court settlements they have made.  So anything they print I discard immediately out of hand, they have a very bad reputation for distortion and downright deviousness.

Sounds a good read, off to Amazon to get a copy.

The Mail always had 'form', ponder this if you will:

“Associated Newspapers have always led the charge against the policies that confront racism and anti-semitism. It praised the Blackshirts in the 1930’s, and admits that as recently as the retirement party of the last editor of the Daily Mail, two of its staff dressed in Nazi uniforms and were not asked to leave.” The Guardian, 1st March 2006

“For politicians of Livingstone's generation and ideology, the Daily Mail is, as it were, a blue rag. They call it the "Forger's Gazette" because of the Labour-damaging fake "Zinoviev letter" in the 1920s. They refer constantly to the paper's soft line on Hitler in the 1930s and its infamous 1934 "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" headline.” The Guardian, 25th February 2006 “Newly released documents reveal how in the 1930s its (Daily Mail’s) treacherous proprietor heaped grovelling praise on Adolf Hilter and the Nazis, sparking calls from Jewish groups and MPs for the newspaper to say sorry. Daily Mail boss Lord Rothermere, grandfather of the current chairman, described his psychotic hero as “superhuman” and suggested Britain and Germany should unite to rule the world.” The Daily Express, 2nd April 2005

“The Daily Mail flirted with fascism in the 1930s.” The Guardian, 11th February 2005