The Earlier Reports Made about the case

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I found this image of the Police conducting enquiries on Longwood Lane at night time...

It's a confusing image to me.... The image date is 7th January 2011..  And it depicts the Police stopping motorists on Longwood Lane...

My confusion with the image is where on Longwood Lane can cars be at so many different angles ???


You have 2 black cars facing forward.. with a silver car Horizontal to them... the only thing I can imagine that they are is from staff leaving The Quarry...

The more confusing part is you can see the fence in the background... I keep trying to work out where it could possibly be ....

Bt in the first image the first car you see is horizontal in direction then the 2 black cars face forward .. followed by the silver car horizontal...

Can anyone tell me where this is supposed to be ? Is it the quarry car park??  I can see 5 cars clumped together in the first Image... No where that I'm aware of on longwood lane could you get that many cars together all facing different directions!!

But the Police never mentioned interviewing anyone from the quarry!

In the first image ... what is the Young Man Gesticulating about?? Everyone else are still in their cars !!

In the second image he looks like he's talking to the woman in the grey car as if they know each other (IMO).. Are they the employees of the quarry??

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/event/the-police-investigation-into-the-murder-of-jo-yeates-continues-107916904#reward-poster-is-displayed-close-to-shops-that-were-visited-by-joanna-picture-id107932324

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Another image I have stumbled across has a car parked outside CJ's house.. slightly going down the side of the building...

The image is dated 31st December 2010..

It cannot be any of CJ's cars as they removed them the day before... And Dr Vincent Tabak was in Holland... Did he actually go in his car ????

10:00PM GMT 30 Dec 2010

The police focus remained on Mr Jefferies on Thursday as forensic experts took his two cars – a grey Volvo S40 and a silver Chrysler Neon – for analysis.

I don't know how Dr Vincent Tabak and Tanja Morson travelled ...

(A): To Cambridge

(B): From Cambridge to Holland

(C): From Holland to Bristol...

This is bringing back an old memory.. I remember trying to find the image years ago... But I'm sure it was to do with Tanja and Dr Vincent Tabak being at the railway station going to Cambridge ... But I had problems locating it years ago.. ... So it's a difficult one...

Why when they are on Holiday would they travel by car which would take them hours??  The more logical form of transport would be a train to Cambridge .. then a flight to Holland... (IMO)....



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8232573/Joanna-Yeates-murder-Christopher-Jefferies-helped-fix-car-for-boyfriends-trip-away.html

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An article in the :World Architecture News 

Joanna Yeates, Bristol, United Kingdom
Tuesday 04 Jan 2011

Mystery deepens and killer remains at large
The UK's media was dominated over the Christmas holidays by the tragic death of 25 year old BDP landscape architect, Joanna Yeates whose body was found in a frozen ditch near her Bristol home on Christmas day.
Jo was employed by BDP, in the Clifton area of Bristol, as part of a team designing landscapes for a new hospital in the Southmead area of the city. She enjoyed the outdoor life, rowing, surfing and snowboarding. Keith Pavey, director of BDP's Bristol studio, said she had had a great future ahead of her and was a popular member of staff. "She was a very professional designer," he said. "She worked very hard and was a good team player. She got on with everybody and was very well liked."
The unfolding story, starting with her disappearance on 19th December disclosed more details each day culminating in the arrest of her landlord, 65 year old Chris Jefferies on the 30th December, only to take another surprise turn when he was released on bail a few days later on January 1st.

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/2011/15574/wan-editorial/joanna-yeates-in-bristol.html

I found the comments a bit strange...

11/01/11 Edward L. Soenke, Des Moines, Iowa I am shocked and devastated by Joanna Yeates tragic passing. I worked for BDP in the mid 1960s under David Rock and Bill Jack and lived on the Maida Vale Canal. Since that time, The Design Partnership (Des Moines, Iowa, USA) has developed projects in Europe and across the Former Soviet Union. In those latter endeavors we worked with investigators that worked "undercover" for us in various ventures. We would be glad to put any authorities involved in the search for the perpetrators in touch with this private investigation team as they - as least in our experience - can find anyone. Feel free to contact me at TDPUSA12@aol.com. Edward L. Soenke, FCSI, AIA, NCARB, NIBS

Why is this man shocked an devastated??? did he know her ???

The other comment :

05/01/11 Elizabeth Fontana, New York City....  A tragic loss - deepest condolences to the family and Mr. Reardon. This is totally senseless as all of these type of crimes are. To see a beautiful and talented young woman's life ended in such a horrible way. I pray that they catch whoever did this.

Rest in peach Joanna. Heaven has a beautiful new angel.

I just thought it a bit odd a Murder enquiry featuring in World Architecture News

[John]

There is no evidence that VT used a suitcase or a cycle bag to transport Joanna's body-----other than what he might have said in court. I suppose he must have owned a suitcase, since most of us do, but there is no evidence that he owned a cycle bag.

I, for one, don't believe most of what VT said in court!

Tanja could have told the court whether or not a suitcase or a cycle bag was missing, but she did not testify. I still wonder why not.

There are only two scenarios whereby I might possibly believe that VT killed Joanna:  if he had been drunk or stoned (doubtful, as he was driving his car that night), or if he and Joanna had known each other prior to her murder (no evidence).  Therefore, I stand by my view that he is innocent.

As for him framing CJ----what a load of rubbish!  AND, years were added to his sentence for this.

We know why and how he killed her from his own testimony.

[mrswah]

We know why and how he killed her from his own testimony.

We have his testimony, yes, but is it true?

There must be a number of people who knew VT who have stumbled across this forum. I wonder why it is that nobody ever admits to having known him as a relative, friend, neighbour or work colleague, and then goes on to tell people like me that we are wasting our time: they knew the bloke, he was the type to commit a murder, he was odd, they were not surprised when he was arrested, they had seen him looking at porn at work, he behaved weirdly towards female colleagues and they were wary of him, etc etc

We never do hear anything like this, do we?  In fact, nobody ever says anything at all to this effect. If VT really was a shady sort of character, why hasn't somebody posted something to that effect on here? Plenty of people must have known him, and since he doesn't have access to social media in prison, he isn't going to read anything written about him, and he's hardly going to sue for libel!

[John]

We have his testimony, yes, but is it true?

There must be a number of people who knew VT who have stumbled across this forum. I wonder why it is that nobody ever admits to having known him as a relative, friend, neighbour or work colleague, and then goes on to tell people like me that we are wasting our time: they knew the bloke, he was the type to commit a murder, he was odd, they were not surprised when he was arrested, they had seen him looking at porn at work, he behaved weirdly towards female colleagues and they were wary of him, etc etc

We never do hear anything like this, do we?  In fact, nobody ever says anything at all to this effect. If VT really was a shady sort of character, why hasn't somebody posted something to that effect on here? Plenty of people must have known him, and since he doesn't have access to social media in prison, he isn't going to read anything written about him, and he's hardly going to sue for libel!

It's probably a case of he admitted it so now looked upon as a thoroughly disgusting individual whom nobody wants to have anything to do with.  You must admit he is all of that if he is truly guilty.

[mrswah]

It's probably a case of he admitted it so now looked upon as a thoroughly disgusting individual whom nobody wants to have anything to do with.  You must admit he is all of that if he is truly guilty.

Sure, but if he is that disgusting individual, one would think that people who know this would be only too keen to put "misguided" people such as myself right !!

[John]

Sure, but if he is that disgusting individual, one would think that people who know this would be only too keen to put "misguided" people such as myself right !!

I don't think people are interested to that extent.  He admitted his guilt, was tried, convicted and sentenced.

[mrswah]

I don't think people are interested to that extent.  He admitted his guilt, was tried, convicted and sentenced.

I agree that the general public probably isn't interested. Most people have probably forgotten the case altogether. However, anyone who believes VT to be guilty not because he pleaded guilty, but because they knew him and had always thought him creepy and suspect, would be disgusted at people like me , and would certainly be shouting us down----in my opinion, anyway.

But nobody has-----nobody who knew him, anyway.

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I found this report on the 8th January 2011 Joanna Yeates mum had given an interview..

She never had two ­boyfriends at the same time. She had a moral conscience. When she broke up with boyfriends, they always stayed friends,’ she says, adding with a sorrowful smile: ‘She also liked to test her ­boyfriends and would always challenge them to an arm wrestle. It was a sort of initiation.’

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345194/Joanna-Yeates-Murder-Did-Jo-buy-dinner-killer.html#ixzz4hBMbZB32

It reminded me of when I suggested that it could have be a game gone wrong whether it was male or female...

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I was looking at the Joanna Yeates word press and the photographs we are all used to viewing... And one stood out to me...

The background looks like someone has painted a bridge behind it.. Yet the sky looks real....  It's just a little bit strange....

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http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8056.msg404305#msg404305

I was trying to establish when the Post Mortem had been Completed... and I was positive it was early... which couldn't  happen if her body was frozen...

Joanna Yeates Parents Identified the body... and this was on the 27th December 2010... 2:37pm

Does this mean they did this after the autopsy... I am under the impression it does....  So we now have even less time for the autopsy of a FROZEN BODY to be conducted....

Dr Delaney first see's Joanna Yeates at 6:00pm on the 25th December 2010 so the body to defrost fully and all the samples taken plus a full Autopsy who be completed in 44.4 hours...

This should Not be possible.... (IMO)

I have attached a screen shot of a Tweet made by Avon and Somerset Police.. The date of the tweet is 27th December 2010:  2:27pm


It could have been earlier that they Formally Identified her... that just the time of the tweet...

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Again...  two tweeter screen shots... (attached)

Avon&Somerset Police‏Verified account
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#helpfindjo Police name woman found in Failand - police are satisfied that the body is architect Joanna Yeates. http://bit.ly/hTGzXF   5:53 AM - 26 Dec 2010

How come the Avon and Somerset Police tweet this after the Clifton People ?? look at the time...

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Police confirm sad news that body found yesterday is Jo Yeates who died in suspicious circumstances: http://tinyurl.com/23juzmp #helpfindjo    4:15 AM - 26 Dec 2010

So as early as 4:15am.... Joanna Yeates was Identified and "Suspicious Circumstances" are being mentioned... How is that even possible... The body hasn't had time to thaw...

The more times I can shave time off how long they had for her body to thaw fully... The less likely that she was actually frozen... So when was she put on Longwood Lane... because I DO NOT BELIEVE it was Friday 17th December 2010

So at 4:15 she had thawed enough to tell that there were suspicious circumstances and Identify her...  So I think this lends to Lyndsey Lennen having samples as early as the 25/26 th December .. If they had to put her through the National data base as part of the identification process.. Then it only figures that Lyndsey Lennen had her samples before the Police say they are satisfied that it is Joanna Yeates...

This is a full day before the parents formally identify her according to the Police...

Lyndsey Lennen could only get the samples from Joanna Yeates if she is fully thawed.... But what of Rigor Mortis??

10 and 1/2 hours after she is in the Mortuary she is Identified by the Police.... And they have tweeted this... Isn't a formal identification supposed to be made by the family... which is done the day after....

So... I'm saying this Autopsy was completed in 44 hours at the most and it could even be less... 

I do not believe that Joanna Yeates body was frozen at all... (IMO)...

And if she wasn't frozen she wasn't on Longwood Lane for 8 days .... (IMO)

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I've just found an earlier report that the body was identified as Joanna Yeates by another tweeter:

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Body Found Is Missing Joanna Yeates - Deepest condolences to all the family #helpfindjo
3:20 AM - 26 Dec 2010

How would this guy know this for sure at 3:20am ???

Found him on linkedin.. attached what his profession was around the time ..

EDIT.... This guy worked for Webweavers.... I was just looking at their portfolio and they created "Sarah's Law website...

Did they have any connection to the "Joanna Yeates Case"???

If he does have a connection to the case... That would shave another Hour off the time for her to be thawing...!

I wonder if he has a connection to Joanna Yeates... he is very active on tweeter in the early stages of the missing person enquiry..


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[mrswah]

I am sure a lot of people were assuming the body was that of Joanna as soon as they heard that one had been found: the media, the tweeters, the posters on forums, all those who read or listen to the news, even if they don't use the internet. Her disappearance had been very widely reported, and the body was found in the part of the country where Joanna had been living. Nobody else had been reported missing with such wide coverage, even though I understand that there were other people who went missing during that week.

They were not waiting for official confirmation------although they should have been.