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#JoYeates boyfriend recalls they would always keep their front door double locked - whether in or out. Windows were also locked. #TabakTrial

So how did Dr Vincent Tabak open the door??


https://twitter.com/SunriseIsabel/status/125902956213190657

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#JoYeates died of a heart attack caused by oxygen starvation in a period of between 15 and 20 seconds, Mr Clegg tells jurors

6:56 AM - 25 Oct 2011

https://twitter.com/evansma/status/128832409365004288

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The quicker #JoYeates died the less likely there was an intent to kill, Mr Clegg says.

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Odd statement by Clegg! The quicker Joanna yeates died... 

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He was taken to Trinity Road police station where further DNA was taken, matching the sample he gave in Amsterdam on Dec 31 #joyeates

8:15 AM - 10 Oct 2011

https://twitter.com/SWNS/status/123416328584429568

Never... thats stating the obvious...  Did they match samples on Joanna Yeates ???

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Asked whether death "must have" occurred in 12 hours after lunch Delaney says "death occurred after eating that last meal" #joyeates

https://twitter.com/rupertevelyn/status/125877811666878465

Does that mean her stomach contents were empty??  what time does that say that she died??

What was That last meal??

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Going back to this tweet and re-reading...

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Dr Delaney says #Joannayeates death was not instantaneous and she was alive at the time of the compression

Had something happened to Joanna Yeates before she was strangled???

“She was clearly alive at the time that compression happened. Death was not instantaneous.

Pointing out she was alive before the compression happened... Well of course she would have been or there wouldn't have been signs of strangulation...

“I would have expected her at some point to have been in pain. I would have expected her to struggle. This would be a dynamic incident.”

The bruises and grazes found on her face, nose, chin and head could have been caused by her being thrown to the “floor, ground or other ­roughened surface,” the court was told.

Dr Delaney said: “Bruising only occurs when the heart is beating – so the injuries occurred during life.”

There were no signs of any sexual violence on the young woman.

Was she attacked first, then the compression came second, and not the injuries happening from the attempt to strangle her..

Dr Delaney states that there was no signs of sexual violence... But there are obvious signs of physical violence, which must have occurred before she was strangled..(imo)

Now the prosecution do not bring anything to trial to support that this attack happened in the flat... And if Joanna Yeates was killed in her flat, there must be evidence of the physical assault on her there inside Flat 1...  So were was this evidence at trial??

Why does Dr Delaney skirt around everything??


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/277558/Killer-weeps-at-pictures-of-Joanna-s-body

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Andrew Mott, wearing protective clothing, went to the body. The snow was undisturbed around it. There was apparent blood staining on a wall.
by juliareidsky via twitter October 14, 2011 at 10:28 AM

If Joanna Yeates had been on Longwood Lane for 7 days as 'THEY" say she was, that cannot be possible....

Andrew "Civilian" Mott tells us so...

The snow was undisturbed, apparent blood staining on the wall.

Well If Dr Vincent Tabak put her there on the 17th December 2010.. Then the blood on the wall should have been covered with snow .... And Not been visible!!

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https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/group-of-police-officers-in-black-coats-forensic-officer-news-footage/659163566

It's a Crime Scene... Or so they say..... So why is the Police Officer on the right eating soup?? You can see he has a spoon in his hand... Short Clip. just keep an eye on him...

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Is that Andrew "Civillian" Mott walking there in the white top? Thought he wore a Forensic Suit??

Same video as above

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Dr Delaney said that Joanna Yeates was found in a "Flower Patterned Pink Top"

There were apparent blood stains on her flower patterned pink top but no signs of injuries to her genitalia, Dr Delaney said.

This from an Article from Mrs Yeates which they made a documentary...  So I believe what they say is accurate...

“The only thing of Jo’s that wasn’t in the flat was Jo herself.”

It took me a while but.... 
The Clothes that Joanna Yeates was found in I don't think they were hers....  I think someone re-dressed her and the Clothes she went to The Ram in were still in the Flat....


That makes sense looking at what Mrs Yeates says....
The only Thing Missing from the Flat was Joanna Yeates....
Not even "The Missing Sock"....
Because the "Missing Sock" wasn't Joanna Yeates.... It can't have been....
Mrs Yeates tells us that.....


Joanna Yeates was The only thing "Missing"from her Flat!


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/david-and-theresa-yeates-our-agony-without-1702939

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/killer-weeps-over-images-of-joanna-yeates-body-2370602.html

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[Baz]

The full quote is:

"When we got there Greg had already gone through her bag and found Jo’s wallet, her glasses, everything.
The only thing of Jo’s that wasn’t in the flat was Jo herself."

He's not claiming that they took a full inventory of everything Jo owned including all her clothes and that everything was there. He's clearly talking about things that you would expect her to have on her if she had gone out.

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Andrew Mott says: The body and ground were frozen.

The images of the bathroom in the Flat shows a very black dirty looking bath....
Mrs Yeates says: that  The only thing Missing" from Joanna Yeates Flat was Joanna Yeates herself...

The private CCTV doesn't show Joanna Yeates reaching Canygne Road
Colin Port says:  The last know image of Joanna Yeates is The Hop House Pub
We have Dr Delaney saying : Flower  Patterned pink Top.

Mostly Dr Delaney says nothing... which is important... he Misses out whether Joanna Yeates body had been washed.. It very well could have been... we have NO body fluids at all... Joanna Yeates clothes are clean as far as we know..

Andrew "Civilian" Mott says 2 seperate things... The ground was frozen and the body was frozen.. Joanna Yeates should have been frozen to the ground, with body fluids leaking..

I believe that Joanna Yeates was killed elsewhere, I believe she was washed... and I believe that she was re-dressed and NOT in her own clothes....

Is The Missing Sock the real clue??? And I do not mean as a trophy, It bugged me when DCI Phil Jones said that it was   size 5... Why would he mention the size of the sock???

Did Joanna Yeates have someone elses sock on?? and maybe not the one DCI Jones shows us. It appears she may have been wearing another womans clothing.... was she wearing another womans sock as well???..

So where was she kept for all those days?? I don't believe she was on Longwood Lane ... !

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The full quote is:

"When we got there Greg had already gone through her bag and found Jo’s wallet, her glasses, everything.
The only thing of Jo’s that wasn’t in the flat was Jo herself."

He's not claiming that they took a full inventory of everything Jo owned including all her clothes and that everything was there. He's clearly talking about things that you would expect her to have on her if she had gone out.

Hi Baz....  It is what her parents say... Not Greg...

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Remember Andrew Mott and PC Martin Faithful trying to stop the body from Thawing out...

Mr Faithfull told the court how the forensic team had made efforts to prevent Miss Yeates frozen body from thawing out, in order to avoid losing any potentially significant evidence.

And

Andrew Mott, a forensic officer who reached the scene after police arrived shortly after 9am, told how he tried to prevent Miss Yeates's body thawing out.

What was on the body as evidence that they both were trying to Protect??

Foot print ??

Hand Print ??

Finger prints ??

What evidence was left behind, that those statements were made in court ....

Did they take any photographs of this "Evidence"??

Edit... It has to be something that would disappear..... I am now thinking it's possibly the impression of someones lips....

There was an article years ago about DNA on Joanna Yeates lips... And all the talk of Dr Vincent Tabak trying to Kiss her...

Was it the impression of someones 'Lips" ?? Who kissed Joanna Yeates....



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8826662/Joanna-Yeates-trial-snow-covered-body-found-by-dog-walker.html

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/277423/Killer-weeps-over-images-of-Jo-body

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Leonora... Have you got the article, you mention about the DNA on the lips in your blog?

16th January 2011: The Mirror carries a story linking LGC Forensics to the murder of Rachel Nickell and the firm’s involvement in the Joanna Yeates case. Dr. James Walker is identified as the scientist in charge of the firm’s DNA team. Unattributed statements claim that results of DNA swabs from the body are expected within days, but can be used only after an arrest. There is also an unattributed statement that a formal inquiry 30 days after Joanna’s death is not anticipated. The Sunday Express carries an unattributed claim that a tiny sample of DNA has been found on Joanna’s lips.

I cannot find the Sunday Express Article.. But I do remember reading it and i found it some time ago...

Edit.. I found this from one of my posts,... But still can't find the article...

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2419 days ago
Noel O'Gara
DNA on lip does not prove murder\r\rFirst they need to eliminate the cat.
DNA may have come from a kiss of a friend, how could anybody deduce that it was planted by a killer?
Also that dna trace may have been there for weeks if not months. The obvious first person to eliminate would be her boyfriend in order to avoid mass testing.
If it is the boyfriend's dna, that proves that he kissed her on the lips. Big deal. It does not record the time of the kiss and dna thirty years old has been used by police to convict people.
DNA is a very dangerous tool which is open to abuse by unscrouplous policemen who need results. You can draw all sort of inferences from it.
Public confidence in it is misplaced.

The Article has gone.... It is the one that is replaced with 'The ColdPlay" article and the image of Mr and Mrs Yeates, yet it still has Noels comment on it...!!!  I knew there was something about that article...


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8056.msg421841#msg421841

http://vincent-tabak-is-innocent.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/search-for-scapegoat.html

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/223433/Coldplay-to-beam-live-Corbijn-film-around-the-world

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Hi Baz....  It is what her parents say... Not Greg...

I know. I didn't claim it was Greg. The "he" I was referring to was her Dad. The article YOU shared states:

David, 64, told the Sky documentary Murder at Christmas: “When we got there Greg had already gone through her bag and found Jo’s wallet, her glasses, everything. The only thing of Jo’s that wasn’t in the flat was Jo herself.”

But anyway the point wasn't about who said it but rather that they weren't claiming that they had checked that every item of clothing she owned was accounted for.