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Title: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: G-Unit on September 28, 2022, 08:15:42 AM
As if things weren't bad enough, the new government appears to be making it worse. Will they take any notice of the warnings or will they carry on with their crazy ideas?
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 28, 2022, 08:50:08 AM
They are wilfully engaging in disaster capitalism and they will not stop unless or until they are removed at the next general election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: G-Unit on September 28, 2022, 10:26:08 AM
They are wilfully engaging in disaster capitalism and they will not stop unless or until they are removed at the next general election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine

Well they are known to be fans of Thatcher who, along with Keith Joseph, was a fan of Milton Friedman. If they follow Thatcher's lead then there's a lot more pain coming. What Truss doesn't have is the support that Thatcher had in the country at large.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 28, 2022, 10:40:52 AM

Given the gloomy UK economic news I suggest it would be a really good idea to keep pumping our money & weapons into Ukraine. I'm not sure how that will help exactly but presumably someone in the government knows.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 28, 2022, 03:29:44 PM
Well they are known to be fans of Thatcher who, along with Keith Joseph, was a fan of Milton Friedman. If they follow Thatcher's lead then there's a lot more pain coming. What Truss doesn't have is the support that Thatcher had in the country at large.
Thatcher’s popularity began to wane rapidly after her 1979 election victory and only began to turn around thanks to the Falklands War.  Perhaps that’s what Truss is banking on:  victory in Ukraine with Zelensky giving us much of the credit.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 28, 2022, 03:56:58 PM
Thatcher’s popularity began to wane rapidly after her 1979 election victory and only began to turn around thanks to the Falklands War.  Perhaps that’s what Truss is banking on:  victory in Ukraine with Zelensky giving us much of the credit.

Ukraine just lost about 20% of it's territory in referendums so she can forget that.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Myster on September 28, 2022, 07:10:33 PM
The only twitter account worth reading... https://twitter.com/BrookesTimes (https://twitter.com/BrookesTimes)
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: G-Unit on September 28, 2022, 10:11:54 PM
It seems the UK's credit rating has been destroyed and the housing market is in deep trouble. All resulting from a mini budget. Let's hope this government doesn't get to produce a full budget.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 28, 2022, 10:36:45 PM
It seems the UK's credit rating has been destroyed and the housing market is in deep trouble. All resulting from a mini budget. Let's hope this government doesn't get to produce a full budget.
Best make sure you use your vote at the next GE and vote for anyone else but the Tories.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: mrswah on September 29, 2022, 04:47:50 PM
They are wilfully engaging in disaster capitalism and they will not stop unless or until they are removed at the next general election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine


Exactly what I am hoping for, ie that they will lose the next election.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 29, 2022, 06:29:40 PM
Lab 498 seats. Tory 61. That’s what a 33 point lead would look like at a General Election.
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uks-opposition-labour-party-surges-33-point-lead-over-conservatives-yougov-poll-2022-09-29/
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 29, 2022, 06:40:35 PM
Liz Truss repeatedly lied during her radio interviews today that her government has capped  household bills at £2500 and not one interviewer challenged her on it.  What is wrong with these people?!
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 29, 2022, 08:51:38 PM


Breaking News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32779CpfymI
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: G-Unit on September 29, 2022, 10:13:57 PM
I bet Boris and Rishi are having a quiet chuckle to themselves.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 29, 2022, 10:35:54 PM
I bet Boris and Rishi are having a quiet chuckle to themselves.
If they are they should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 29, 2022, 11:27:43 PM

The Day Today: Collaterlie Sisters - BUSINEWS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9_fBDDTIuI
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 03, 2022, 08:59:50 AM
The lady's for turning - haw! haw! haw!
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: G-Unit on October 03, 2022, 09:54:51 AM
The lady's for turning - haw! haw! haw!

If it wasn't so tragic it would be very entertaining. I'm sure the PM and the Chancellor hsd their 'how to deal with the media' training, but not enough practice. Every now and then a question is asked which leaves them looking like rabbits caught in headlights.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 03, 2022, 10:09:01 AM
If it wasn't so tragic it would be very entertaining. I'm sure the PM and the Chancellor hsd their 'how to deal with the media' training, but not enough practice. Every now and then a question is asked which leaves them looking like rabbits caught in headlights.
The Telegraph today is a joy to read (not that I have a copy but my parents do) - all about how Liz Truss sticks to her principles even if they are unpopular, how strong she is in the face of adversity and criticism.  Part of me would have had a little bit more respect for her if she'd actually stuck to her evil plan but she's just chickenshit like the rest of them.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: barrier on October 03, 2022, 03:29:32 PM
You thought Boris was bad, ( a collective to those who thought it couldn't get worse).
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 03, 2022, 04:54:05 PM
You thought Boris was bad, ( a collective to those who thought it couldn't get worse).
Yes, the Trussbot and KamiKwasi have succeeded in making Boris look half way competent which I guess is some sort of an achievement.  What WERE Tory members thinking when they ditched Rishi for Liz?  Mental bunch.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: G-Unit on October 14, 2022, 02:50:28 PM
Yes, the Trussbot and KamiKwasi have succeeded in making Boris look half way competent which I guess is some sort of an achievement.  What WERE Tory members thinking when they ditched Rishi for Liz?  Mental bunch.

Truss is on the ropes now imo. They've got the Chancellor out of the way so the PM now has nothing to hide behind.

Sunak lost because he was seen as a turncoat, wasn't he?
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 14, 2022, 05:45:34 PM
I don’t think I’ve ever been so embarrassed to be British as I have these last few weeks.  And I thought the referendum result was bad enough, this shitshow is simply the pits. 
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Wonderfulspam on October 14, 2022, 05:52:47 PM
I don’t think I’ve ever been so embarrassed to be British as I have these last few weeks.  And I thought the referendum result was bad enough, this shitshow is simply the pits.

Ah, but do you reckon Starmer will do any better? Drop the sanctions against Russia & stop blowing money we don't have in arming Ukraine? Not going to happen, whomever is at the helm.
Get used to massive inflation, increased energy prices & a weak sterling, because that's the course we are locked in to, whichever party runs the country (into the ground).
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: G-Unit on October 14, 2022, 06:21:38 PM
I don’t think I’ve ever been so embarrassed to be British as I have these last few weeks.  And I thought the referendum result was bad enough, this shitshow is simply the pits.

The British people didn't elect this woman and it's she and her party who have embarrassed themselves.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 14, 2022, 06:36:59 PM
The British people didn't elect this woman and it's she and her party who have embarrassed themselves.
She represents us on the world stage and she is an embarrassment to our country and our people.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Wonderfulspam on October 14, 2022, 07:24:15 PM
She represents us on the world stage and she is an embarrassment to our country and our people.

We need Angela Rayner or Jess Phillips....
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: G-Unit on October 14, 2022, 07:36:58 PM
She represents us on the world stage and she is an embarrassment to our country and our people.

Not for much longer imo. The Americans struggled with Trump, but the British are more brutal, I think.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Wonderfulspam on October 14, 2022, 07:40:39 PM
Not for much longer imo. The Americans struggled with Trump, but the British are more brutal, I think.

I'm sorry, what was bad about Trump?
Can't think of anything myself. First President in living memory not to send his troops, & NATO troops, into any new wars.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 14, 2022, 07:52:03 PM
Not for much longer imo. The Americans struggled with Trump, but the British are more brutal, I think.
Gone by Monday with any luck.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Wonderfulspam on October 14, 2022, 07:59:03 PM

Time for Jacob Rees Mogg imo
Make the Conservatives Conservative again.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: G-Unit on October 19, 2022, 09:07:14 AM
poll shows 73% of Mail+ readers want Johnson to stay as Prime Minister
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11037803/Boris-dont-Shock-result-poll-shows-73-Mail-readers-want-Johnson-stay-PM.html

It seems the politicians have gone deaf again. They did what they wanted and got rid of Boris, but he was probably their only hope of winning an election.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Wonderfulspam on October 19, 2022, 09:37:27 AM

Perhaps the Tories are committing suicide, realising the economic situation is hopeless after needlessly blowing money on lockdown furlough schemes & all the printing. Double digit inflation was the result, they can try blaming it on Putin but anyone with half a brain understands inflation is caused by printing. So, commit electoral suicide now, let Labour deal with the coming societal collapse, then try to regain power in another 5 years where they can point to how bad the country is under Labour & pledge to make things better.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 19, 2022, 11:09:41 AM
poll shows 73% of Mail+ readers want Johnson to stay as Prime Minister
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11037803/Boris-dont-Shock-result-poll-shows-73-Mail-readers-want-Johnson-stay-PM.html

It seems the politicians have gone deaf again. They did what they wanted and got rid of Boris, but he was probably their only hope of winning an election.
Personally I'm not really that interested in the views of Daily Mail readers exclusively.  What about the general public - do they also want Boris back?  Admittedly he seems like a genius now we have Truss in place but surely there are other options, no?  How about a general election to sort it all out?  I suspect even if they installed Boris tomorrow he couldn't undo the damage of the last few years and that Starmer would romp home with a landslide.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: barrier on October 19, 2022, 11:22:04 AM
Personally I'm not really that interested in the views of Daily Mail readers exclusively.  What about the general public - do they also want Boris back?  Admittedly he seems like a genius now we have Truss in place but surely there are other options, no?  How about a general election to sort it all out?  I suspect even if they installed Boris tomorrow he couldn't undo the damage of the last few years and that Starmer would romp home with a landslide.

The tories are ripe for the taking, can Starmer pass muster to do so, today at question time if he's worth his salt he should put Truss to the sword .IMO it might be better for Labour if there is not a election anytime soon, not sure that helps the country though.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 19, 2022, 01:31:46 PM
The tories are ripe for the taking, can Starmer pass muster to do so, today at question time if he's worth his salt he should put Truss to the sword .IMO it might be better for Labour if there is not a election anytime soon, not sure that helps the country though.
Truss put up a good fight even if everything she actually said was utterly risible.   The bare faced cheek of the woman accusing Labour of not having a clue when it comes to the economy!
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: barrier on October 19, 2022, 01:44:27 PM
Truss put up a good fight even if everything she actually said was utterly risible.   The bare faced cheek of the woman accusing Labour of not having a clue when it comes to the economy!

Didn't or even don't watch it, I've been on this planet long enough and to have worked  through the three day week back in 1973/74 under Heath (tory), Healey in 76 cap in hand to the IMF,(Labour) Winter 78/79 rubbish not collected, dead not being buried, Callaghan,  (Labour) then we had Thatcher .It just goes around and around .
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 19, 2022, 02:26:36 PM
Didn't or even don't watch it, I've been on this planet long enough and to have worked  through the three day week back in 1973/74 under Heath (tory), Healey in 76 cap in hand to the IMF,(Labour) Winter 78/79 rubbish not collected, dead not being buried, Callaghan,  (Labour) then we had Thatcher .It just goes around and around .
If only we had had Jeremy Corbyn to save us from all this mess.  @)(++(*
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Common sense on October 20, 2022, 12:40:54 PM
Sorry to bring this up but this is the Brexit fantasy coming home to roost. Johnson purged those who wouldn't go along with the self harm of Brexit and the resulting chaos brought about by his pliant but talentless self serving political pygmies is now plain to all who still retain the ability to observe reality.

The news this morning of the predictable fall in both imports and exports to the EU is the trumpet sound of the anti growth elephant in Downing St but will anyone finally dare to acknowledge its presence? ( I'm talking about you Keir Starmer)

You might hope that Mail readers and the thick xenophobes will look at this Tufton St disaster and realise how they've been played but don't hold your breath. As long as the poor can be blamed for the problems created by the rich, there will always be idiots that the powerful can make use of.

Pah!
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: barrier on October 20, 2022, 01:39:46 PM
Now we're gonna get another PM, will it never end.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 20, 2022, 01:44:54 PM
Now we're gonna get another PM, will it never end.
"Great" Britain is a basket case. 
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: barrier on October 20, 2022, 01:59:44 PM
"Great" Britain is a basket case.


 I suppose if we're at the bottom of where ever we are then its only upward from here , or keep bumping along the bottom.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Wonderfulspam on October 20, 2022, 02:18:46 PM

Moggmentum.
Please let it be Mogg this time.
He's probably the only current Tory I might vote for.
But I fear we might be getting Jeremy Hunt.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 20, 2022, 02:21:35 PM

 I suppose if we're at the bottom of where ever we are then its only upward from here , or keep bumping along the bottom.
"Things can only get better..."
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Wonderfulspam on October 20, 2022, 02:21:57 PM
Now we're gonna get another PM, will it never end.

Shortest serving PM.
If it wasn't for Her Majesty popping her clogs she'd have been gone even sooner.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: G-Unit on October 20, 2022, 03:26:44 PM
The Times thinks Boris may stand.  @)(++(*
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 20, 2022, 05:35:39 PM
The Times thinks Boris may stand.  @)(++(*
The Tories would be utterly mad to reinstate him as PM, utterly butterly mad.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: G-Unit on October 20, 2022, 08:57:03 PM
The Tories would be utterly mad to reinstate him as PM, utterly butterly mad.

It depends how much they crave power. They kept their lead in the polls until he resigned, didn't he?
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 20, 2022, 09:19:03 PM
It depends how much they crave power. They kept their lead in the polls until he resigned, didn't he?
Did they?  Boris had a hugely negative personal rating by the time he was booted out.  Over 100 Tory MPs wanted him out.  He is currently being investigated for misleading parliament and could (if reinstated) be forced to resign again if he is found to have done so.  Only 4 members of the QT audience this evening seemed keen on having Boris back, a reasonable snapshot of the public mood re: Boris.  As I said, the Tories would have to be off their rockers to have him back. 
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 20, 2022, 09:22:27 PM
It depends how much they crave power. They kept their lead in the polls until he resigned, didn't he?
https://www.politico.eu/article/johnson-many-tories-would-lose-seats-if-uk-election-were-tomorrow-poll-shows/
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 23, 2022, 10:24:00 PM
Thank God Boris has finally come to his senses and saved us from further agony and ignominy.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 24, 2022, 02:05:12 PM
Common sense has finally prevailed and the only candidate capable of doing the job amongst a pretty low calibre selection is now PM.  Let’s hope he restores some dignity and honesty to the role and manages to prevent GB from going down the toilet completely.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 24, 2022, 02:41:53 PM
And - there's the added bonus that Sunak's appointment will piss off all the racists in the Tory membership who didn't get behind him earlier in the year in favour of that incompetent woman Truss.
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 24, 2022, 04:13:00 PM
Shame he couldn't quite find the camera when he was addressing the nation just now though...  @)(++(*
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 25, 2022, 02:53:31 PM
Pleased to see the back of JRM - for now…
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Myster on October 25, 2022, 05:28:45 PM
Pleased to see the back of JRM - for now…
... and ever.  What a filthy-rich plonker!... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOjdf_nkgTo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOjdf_nkgTo)
Title: Re: The Tories add to the pressure
Post by: Venturi Swirl on October 25, 2022, 06:24:00 PM
... and ever.  What a filthy-rich plonker!... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOjdf_nkgTo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOjdf_nkgTo)
Nothing wrong with being filthy-rich, but plonker he most certainly is, in fact a quite ghastly individual.