Goncalo Amaral.

[barrier]

i understand exactly what yoiu are saying...the problem is did the PJ check for fingerprints or dna at these crimes

No, the question is were they kept.

[jassi]

I'm not talking about 5a I'm talking about the apartments where a man molested children in their beds.  The Portuguese knew about this man so they should have fingerprints or DNA of him to compare with Christian B.

And you don't think it'll all have been checked already ?

[jassi]

No, the question is were they kept.

Do they not go onto a data base for access throughout Europe ?

[barrier]

Do they not go onto a data base for access throughout Europe ?

I'm sure I've read at the time of these incidents there wasn't a europe wide data base.

[Lace]

And you don't think it'll all have been checked already ?

No.  Otherwise the German Police wouldn't be asking for the forensic evidence.

Amaral always said there was no way anyone could break into 5a,  yet he never compared what happened to the burglaries of the pot bellied man.   He didn't wonder to himself how that man managed to get into the apartments.

[jassi]

No.  Otherwise the German Police wouldn't be asking for the forensic evidence.

Amaral always said there was no way anyone could break into 5a,  yet he never compared what happened to the burglaries of the pot bellied man.   He didn't wonder to himself how that man managed to get into the apartments.

You were talking about other apartments where children were molested, not specifically 5A

[faithlilly]

I don't actually think they said anything of the kind, it's crazy imo.

You would hope not.

[G-Unit]

No.  Otherwise the German Police wouldn't be asking for the forensic evidence.

Amaral always said there was no way anyone could break into 5a,  yet he never compared what happened to the burglaries of the pot bellied man.   He didn't wonder to himself how that man managed to get into the apartments.

Were those alleged crimes reported to the PJ?

[Brietta]

Were those alleged crimes reported to the PJ?

I do wish you would refrain from the use of "alleged" when you know that there is nothing alleged about it.  I believe some were and some weren't reported but it was a situation well known to the authorities (Kate was told about it after Madeleine's disappearance) and it should have been a factor in Amaral's strategy instead of the expediency of the one he settled on.

But there certainly appears to be a culture inherent in the psyche of police in Portugal which condones ineptitude and failure to respect the rights of women and children who have suffered serious assault - particularly foreign ones - when it comes to protecting the tourist trade.
I think it might very well come back to bite them.

It was epitomised by Amaral and his shoddy conduct of Madeleine's case.  I wonder why it took the Germans to get justice for the American woman who was tortured and raped in Portugal.  Or the disgrace of discarding the evidence in the case of the Irish woman whose torture and rape might have proved a link between Madeleine's disappearance or both rape cases.

Portuguese prosecutors DESTROYED vital DNA evidence from brutal five-hour sex attack linked to Christian Brueckner just weeks before Madeleine McCann vanished, court papers reveal
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8442487/Portuguese-prosecutors-DESTROYED-vital-DNA-evidence.html

[G-Unit]

I do wish you would refrain from the use of "alleged" when you know that there is nothing alleged about it.  I believe some were and some weren't reported but it was a situation well known to the authorities (Kate was told about it after Madeleine's disappearance) and it should have been a factor in Amaral's strategy instead of the expediency of the one he settled on.

But there certainly appears to be a culture inherent in the psyche of police in Portugal which condones ineptitude and failure to respect the rights of women and children who have suffered serious assault - particularly foreign ones - when it comes to protecting the tourist trade.
I think it might very well come back to bite them.

It was epitomised by Amaral and his shoddy conduct of Madeleine's case.  I wonder why it took the Germans to get justice for the American woman who was tortured and raped in Portugal.  Or the disgrace of discarding the evidence in the case of the Irish woman whose torture and rape might have proved a link between Madeleine's disappearance or both rape cases.

Portuguese prosecutors DESTROYED vital DNA evidence from brutal five-hour sex attack linked to Christian Brueckner just weeks before Madeleine McCann vanished, court papers reveal
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8442487/Portuguese-prosecutors-DESTROYED-vital-DNA-evidence.html

The police are supposed to follow the evidence they have. If my house was broken into and they couldn't find any evidence I very much doubt they would use evidence from another burglary elsewhere, unless there was similar evidence linking the two crimes. I can see nothing which suggests any link.

As for destroying evidence, the FSS intended to destroy perishable samples (blood, saliva and swabs)  in the McCann case within 21 days of 21/08/2007. Only the defendant or his legal representative could ask them not to do that.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_LOWE.htm

[Mr Gray]

The police are supposed to follow the evidence they have. If my house was broken into and they couldn't find any evidence I very much doubt they would use evidence from another burglary elsewhere, unless there was similar evidence linking the two crimes. I can see nothing which suggests any link.

As for destroying evidence, the FSS intended to destroy perishable samples (blood, saliva and swabs)  in the McCann case within 21 days of 21/08/2007. Only the defendant or his legal representative could ask them not to do that.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_LOWE.htm

the FSS may have had to destroy samples due to the law...but they would hacve kept the reults of the dna tests on them.

[G-Unit]

the FSS may have had to destroy samples due to the law...but they would hacve kept the reults of the dna tests on them.

Is there a similar law in Portugal?

[Mr Gray]

Is there a similar law in Portugal?

acccording to reports there is no DNA from the rape of the irish girl to check against CB...no DNA to test and no DNA results kept either

[Brietta]

acccording to reports there is no DNA from the rape of the irish girl to check against CB...no DNA to test and no DNA results kept either

We only know that because of her bravery in renouncing her anonymity on hearing of the rape of the American woman, the circumstances of which had such similarity to her own.  I think it is shocking.

[jassi]

Was the Irish rape reported at the time, i.e. next day ?