Goncalo Amaral.

[Brietta]

'Professionals' make mistakes just like anyone else, so it's not an accolade and doesn't add value to a statement in my opinion. The truth is that the Metropolitan Police decided an abduction took place, but no-one knows how or why they reached that conclusion.

They are trained investigators ... don't you think they might have employed their experience and their skills when reviewing the available evidence on Madeleine's disappearance.

It could have gone one of two ways back in 2010. 
Their investigative scoping exercise might have resulted in there being insufficient evidence to merit opening an investigation into Madeleine's disappearance or, it might have revealed there was sufficient evidence to merit an investigation.

The outcome was the latter.

It was not a 'given' that Madeleine's case would be reopened ... there had to be justification and as we have seen it was there in spades.

I find the school of thought perpetuating the myth that the Met neglected to perform all the obvious and probably standard procedures when embarking on the preliminaries of looking at Madeleine's cold case, so naive as to be risible.

The scoping exercise resulted in discovering not a few procedures slipping through the net and being overlooked by the original investigation but hundreds of them.

Not the least of which is the present day unashamed revelation from Amaral when "Asked if he had any knowledge of the suspect's involvement in this case, he replied that, "at the time, it was only known that this man was a pedophile". However, he stressed that in 2007 he was identified." https://24.sapo.pt/atualidade/artigos/goncalo-amaral-sobre-caso-madeleine-mccann-pouco-importa-quem-e-o-pedofilo-era-preciso-um-para-levar-com-as-culpas

[faithlilly]

They are trained investigators ... don't you think they might have employed their experience and their skills when reviewing the available evidence on Madeleine's disappearance.

It could have gone one of two ways back in 2010. 
Their investigative scoping exercise might have resulted in there being insufficient evidence to merit opening an investigation into Madeleine's disappearance or, it might have revealed there was sufficient evidence to merit an investigation.

The outcome was the latter.

It was not a 'given' that Madeleine's case would be reopened ... there had to be justification and as we have seen it was there in spades.

I find the school of thought perpetuating the myth that the Met neglected to perform all the obvious and probably standard procedures when embarking on the preliminaries of looking at Madeleine's cold case, so naive as to be risible.

The scoping exercise resulted in discovering not a few procedures slipping through the net and being overlooked by the original investigation but hundreds of them.

Not the least of which is the present day unashamed revelation from Amaral when "Asked if he had any knowledge of the suspect's involvement in this case, he replied that, "at the time, it was only known that this man was a pedophile". However, he stressed that in 2007 he was identified." https://24.sapo.pt/atualidade/artigos/goncalo-amaral-sobre-caso-madeleine-mccann-pouco-importa-quem-e-o-pedofilo-era-preciso-um-para-levar-com-as-culpas

I take it Rebelo knew this information too. What did he do to investigate him ?

[G-Unit]

Because it’s the only plausible, logical explanation that fits the known facts.

There's only one verifiable fact imo; that Madeline McCann disappeared on 3rd May 2007.

[G-Unit]

They are trained investigators ... don't you think they might have employed their experience and their skills when reviewing the available evidence on Madeleine's disappearance.

It could have gone one of two ways back in 2010. 
Their investigative scoping exercise might have resulted in there being insufficient evidence to merit opening an investigation into Madeleine's disappearance or, it might have revealed there was sufficient evidence to merit an investigation.

The outcome was the latter.

It was not a 'given' that Madeleine's case would be reopened ... there had to be justification and as we have seen it was there in spades.

I find the school of thought perpetuating the myth that the Met neglected to perform all the obvious and probably standard procedures when embarking on the preliminaries of looking at Madeleine's cold case, so naive as to be risible.

The scoping exercise resulted in discovering not a few procedures slipping through the net and being overlooked by the original investigation but hundreds of them.

Not the least of which is the present day unashamed revelation from Amaral when "Asked if he had any knowledge of the suspect's involvement in this case, he replied that, "at the time, it was only known that this man was a pedophile". However, he stressed that in 2007 he was identified." https://24.sapo.pt/atualidade/artigos/goncalo-amaral-sobre-caso-madeleine-mccann-pouco-importa-quem-e-o-pedofilo-era-preciso-um-para-levar-com-as-culpas

I know that it was decided which crime had been committed long before all the evidence had been examined.

[Brietta]

There's only one verifiable fact imo; that Madeline McCann disappeared on 3rd May 2007.

There is another verifiable fact and that is that although retaining for the moment the hard core of his support still bemoaning the damage to tourism ( never mind the damage to tourists) and the other sceptic mantras some people ... although outnumbered, appear to be seeing Amaral in a new light.

Comment from two months ago ...

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I also went to the thesis that it was the parents who negligently killed and hid Maddie.
But now it seems to me that it will not be so.
The German fits like a glove in crime !!!!
This German who confessed on a night of glasses that he knew everything about Maddie.
It is very likely that this was the perpetrator of the crime. Because when I was telling this on a hot glass night, it was to impress the fellow who was with him to appear in the eyes of this one who was the greatest.
He even showed the video violating the 72-year-old American on her cell phone. It was therefore the vapors of alcohol that betrayed him !!! Maybe he did the crime and the police are clueless and find out nothing in these 13 years !!!! And when he was watching on TV, Maddie's disappearance on her 10th birthday, deep down she laughs and even boasts !!

If that is true, Gonçalo Amaral could burn the damn book he made of "The truth of the lie"
At the end of his career at PJ he does this great job !!!
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Gonçalo Amaral's incompetence, in this case and in the case of Joana.
There are still idiots who still believe in this idiot.
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So after all the blood in the apartment and the smell of a corpse detected in the family car was all an invention.

As well as the possession of the keys of the church of light to be authorized by the parents as the crematorium of a coffin in Ferreira do Alentejo.

Gonçalo Amaral is crazy, he makes things up. https://sol.sapo.pt/artigo/699191/caso-maddie-policia-brit-nica-recebe-cerca-de-400-informacoes-apos-revelar-suspeito
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[Brietta]

I know that it was decided which crime had been committed long before all the evidence had been examined.

How do you know that?

[faithlilly]

There is another verifiable fact and that is that although retaining for the moment the hard core of his support still bemoaning the damage to tourism ( never mind the damage to tourists) and the other sceptic mantras some people ... although outnumbered, appear to be seeing Amaral in a new light.

Comment from two months ago ...

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I also went to the thesis that it was the parents who negligently killed and hid Maddie.
But now it seems to me that it will not be so.
The German fits like a glove in crime !!!!
This German who confessed on a night of glasses that he knew everything about Maddie.
It is very likely that this was the perpetrator of the crime. Because when I was telling this on a hot glass night, it was to impress the fellow who was with him to appear in the eyes of this one who was the greatest.
He even showed the video violating the 72-year-old American on her cell phone. It was therefore the vapors of alcohol that betrayed him !!! Maybe he did the crime and the police are clueless and find out nothing in these 13 years !!!! And when he was watching on TV, Maddie's disappearance on her 10th birthday, deep down she laughs and even boasts !!

If that is true, Gonçalo Amaral could burn the damn book he made of "The truth of the lie"
At the end of his career at PJ he does this great job !!!
_______________________________________________________________

Gonçalo Amaral's incompetence, in this case and in the case of Joana.
There are still idiots who still believe in this idiot.
_______________________________________________________________

So after all the blood in the apartment and the smell of a corpse detected in the family car was all an invention.

As well as the possession of the keys of the church of light to be authorized by the parents as the crematorium of a coffin in Ferreira do Alentejo.

Gonçalo Amaral is crazy, he makes things up. https://sol.sapo.pt/artigo/699191/caso-maddie-policia-brit-nica-recebe-cerca-de-400-informacoes-apos-revelar-suspeito
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Not sure what you are trying to prove....that a few people don’t support Amaral....well hold the front page.

[G-Unit]

How do you know that?

12th May 2011 remit released, which refers to "the abduction".

April 2012; Police announced they were quarter way through reviewing 40,000 pieces of evidence.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/madeleine-mccann-aged-nine-yard-detectives-believe-she-could-still-be-alive-7678249.html

[jassi]

12th May 2011 remit released, which refers to "the abduction".

April 2012; Police announced they were quarter way through reviewing 40,000 pieces of evidence.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/madeleine-mccann-aged-nine-yard-detectives-believe-she-could-still-be-alive-7678249.html

"195 investigative opportunities"  Such high hopes back in 2012

[Venturi Swirl]

There's only one verifiable fact imo; that Madeline McCann disappeared on 3rd May 2007.

Absolute rubbish imo.

[jassi]

Absolute rubbish imo.

You think even that's in doubt ?

[Venturi Swirl]

You think even that's in doubt ?

What is absolute rubbish is that there is only one verifiable fact, but you raise a good point.  Some sceptics would argue that even that fact was not verifiable.  I guess it depends quite where on the [ censored word ] scale you sit, how many verifiable facts there are.

[G-Unit]

What is absolute rubbish is that there is only one verifiable fact, but you raise a good point.  Some sceptics would argue that even that fact was not verifiable.  I guess it depends quite where on the [ censored word ] scale you sit, how many verifiable facts there are.

Don't be shy, which facts have I ignored?

[Venturi Swirl]

Don't be shy, which facts have I ignored?

There are thousands of verifiable facts in the files, or do you dispute every single one of them.  Let’s start with the basics.  Kate and Gerry McCann are the missing child’s parents.  Has this been verified or not?

PS your post is clearly GOADING.  Give yourself a warning.

[G-Unit]

There are thousands of verifiable facts in the files, or do you dispute every single one of them.  Let’s start with the basics.  Kate and Gerry McCann are the misssing child’s parents.  Has this been verified or not?

PS your post is clearly GOADING.  Give yourself a warning.

That fact has no bearing on whether Madeleine was abducted.

No goading was intended, but we do have very different posting styles. If I disagree with a post I tend to reply with facts rather than opinions. I may think the post is rubbish, but saying so doesn't achieve anything. A fact which disproves it is more useful imo. In this case in your shoes I would have replied with the verifiable facts which I believed confirm abduction.