Goncalo Amaral.

[G-Unit]

1991.  Some fourteen years before Portugal were still doing the same thing.

The French police are nothing to write home about now.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7az5m/michel-zecler-french-cops-charged-after-video-of-black-music-producer-being-beaten-goes-viral

Note the violence and the covering up by falsifying reports. I loved the authorities response to citizens filming police brutality and sharing it; make the filming illegal.

[Brietta]

The French police are nothing to write home about now.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7az5m/michel-zecler-french-cops-charged-after-video-of-black-music-producer-being-beaten-goes-viral

Note the violence and the covering up by falsifying reports. I loved the authorities response to citizens filming police brutality and sharing it; make the filming illegal.

I don't think Amaral was ever in the French police.

[Mr Gray]

I don't think Amaral was ever in the French police.

I'm sure I heard they tried to recruit him

[G-Unit]

I don't think Amaral was ever in the French police.

Portuguese, French, German, Austrian, Belgian, Dutch. Similar legal systems, similar police cultures.

[Brietta]

Portuguese, French, German, Austrian, Belgian, Dutch. Similar legal systems, similar police cultures.

Is it the norm for the police of these countries to face torture trials and to write best selling Penny Dreadfuls about failed and questionable police activities regarding the conduct of missing children cases?

[Eleanor]

Is it the norm for the police of these countries to face torture trials and to write best selling Penny Dreadfuls about failed and questionable police activities regarding the conduct of missing children cases?

No.

And I actually live in France and have done so for a very long time.

[jassi]

Is it the norm for the police of these countries to face torture trials and to write best selling Penny Dreadfuls about failed and questionable police activities regarding the conduct of missing children cases?

Best seller?  Surely not.

[Brietta]

No.

And I actually live in France and have done so for a very long time.

There is no doubt that of the two cases that Amaral was associated with involving missing children huge and obvious  errors were made.

The sceptic tactic of attempting to mitigate these by highlighting other bent coppers from elsewhere really goes nowhere towards rectifying what was and what was not done in Portugal in 2007.

Much of which has been insinuated in his pension pot best seller by Amaral as being 'all his own work'.

[faithlilly]

There is no doubt that of the two cases that Amaral was associated with involving missing children huge and obvious  errors were made.

The sceptic tactic of attempting to mitigate these by highlighting other bent coppers from elsewhere really goes nowhere towards rectifying what was and what was not done in Portugal in 2007.

Much of which has been insinuated in his pension pot best seller by Amaral as being 'all his own work'.

I agree…Amaral did make huge errors in the McCann case. Who knows whether these contributed to them remaining free?

ETA I’ve just noticed that my post has been reinstated.

Thank you John.

[Venturi Swirl]

I agree…Amaral did make huge errors in the McCann case. Who knows whether these contributed to them remaining free?

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[John]

There is no doubt that of the two cases that Amaral was associated with involving missing children huge and obvious  errors were made.

The sceptic tactic of attempting to mitigate these by highlighting other bent coppers from elsewhere really goes nowhere towards rectifying what was and what was not done in Portugal in 2007.

Much of which has been insinuated in his pension pot best seller by Amaral as being 'all his own work'.

Could you elaborate on what these huge errors were please Brietta?

I ask because in the Cipriano case he rightly prosecuted the two culprits for the murder of Joana and for assisting an offender and in the McCann case we still don't know what befell Madeleine McCann.

[Brietta]

Could you elaborate on what these huge errors were please Brietta?

I ask because in the Cipriano case he rightly prosecuted the two culprits for the murder of Joana and for assisting an offender and in the McCann case we still don't know what befell Madeleine McCann.

I don't think we know what happened to Joana.  Just as in Madeleine's case there was not a trace of her.

One wonders if one of the constants of Figueira 2004 and Praia da Luz 2007 was Brueckner - now the prime suspect in Madeleine's disappearance.

[Eleanor]

I don't think we know what happened to Joana.  Just as in Madeleine's case there was not a trace of her.

One wonders if one of the constants of Figueira 2004 and Praia da Luz 2007 was Brueckner - now the prime suspect in Madeleine's disappearance.

As was Goncalo Amaral.

[John]

I don't think we know what happened to Joana.  Just as in Madeleine's case there was not a trace of her.

One wonders if one of the constants of Figueira 2004 and Praia da Luz 2007 was Brueckner - now the prime suspect in Madeleine's disappearance.

Well John Cipriano confessed to killing Joana and Leonor agreed that she assisted him after the fact and covered up for him. I don't think we need much more to know what occurred.

[misty]

Well John Cipriano confessed to killing Joana and Leonor agreed that she assisted him after the fact and covered up for him. I don't think we need much more to know what occurred.

I keep coming back to this crime, a bodyless conviction in Germany which the prosecutors got so horribly wrong.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/20/rudolf-rupp-farmer-family-trial

In the absence of corroborating forensics, the intricate details of Joana's alleged murder by Joao and subsequent assistance by Leonor were never truly established.