Goncalo Amaral.

[kizzy]

What if the alerts in 5a are proven to be wrong.   How can Grime explain that no other apartments had an alert not even from ancient scents.   No blood ever spilt in any of the other apartments.

Well it tells you whatever you chose it to mean...not that there was nothing there.

Two highly trained dogs IIRC insured for a million pound both apparently got it wrong.

[kizzy]

Thats the point I'm making..you, gunit and the other sceptics just believe grime eve n though he cannot prove anything...as for his career...he doesn't seem to have had one since Luz

he doesn't seem to have had one since Luz

You see you don't know for sure that either.

Is there anything to prove what you posted like maddie case ruined M G career.

It wasn't GA who brought them in either.



Martin Grime
UK NPIA Registered Subject Matter Expert
FBI Forensic Canine Program Specialist Adviser


OPERATION TASK


Personal profile


I am an U.K.A.C.P.O. accredited police dog training instructor in post at the Operational Support Services. I am a Subject Matter Expert registered with N.C.P.E. and specialist homicide canine search advisor. In support of the national Homicide Search Advisor, Mark Harrison, I advise Domestic and International Law enforcement agencies on the operational deployment of Police Dogs in the role of Homicide investigation. I develop methods of detecting forensically recoverable evidence by the use of dogs and facilitate training.

I am a Special Advisor to The U.S. Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation, in relation to their Canine Forensic Program.

I am regularly deployed to assist in high profile homicide cases within my portfolio and form a 'Specialist Canine Homicide Search Team' including the S.A.M dog teams from Dyfed Powys.

My core role includes the training and operational handling of specialist search dogs in the fields of Human Victim Recovery and Forensic Crime Scene Investigation.

I have trained and handle two operational specialist search dogs. 'Eddie' is a 7-year old English Springer spaniel dog. 'Keela' is a three-year old English Springer spaniel pregnant dog. I also have a six-month old English Springer spaniel dog, puppy, in training, 'Morse' .

[Mr Gray]

he doesn't seem to have had one since Luz

You see you don't know for sure that either.

Is there anything to prove what you posted like maddie case ruined M G career.

It wasn't GA who brought them in either.



Martin Grime
UK NPIA Registered Subject Matter Expert
FBI Forensic Canine Program Specialist Adviser


OPERATION TASK


Personal profile


I am an U.K.A.C.P.O. accredited police dog training instructor in post at the Operational Support Services. I am a Subject Matter Expert registered with N.C.P.E. and specialist homicide canine search advisor. In support of the national Homicide Search Advisor, Mark Harrison, I advise Domestic and International Law enforcement agencies on the operational deployment of Police Dogs in the role of Homicide investigation. I develop methods of detecting forensically recoverable evidence by the use of dogs and facilitate training.

I am a Special Advisor to The U.S. Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation, in relation to their Canine Forensic Program.

I am regularly deployed to assist in high profile homicide cases within my portfolio and form a 'Specialist Canine Homicide Search Team' including the S.A.M dog teams from Dyfed Powys.

My core role includes the training and operational handling of specialist search dogs in the fields of Human Victim Recovery and Forensic Crime Scene Investigation.

I have trained and handle two operational specialist search dogs. 'Eddie' is a 7-year old English Springer spaniel dog. 'Keela' is a three-year old English Springer spaniel pregnant dog. I also have a six-month old English Springer spaniel dog, puppy, in training, 'Morse' .

The million pound Ins is a lie..you won't be able to supply a cite

[G-Unit]

Thats the point I'm making..you, gunit and the other sceptics just believe grime eve n though he cannot prove anything...as for his career...he doesn't seem to have had one since Luz

I wonder how Grime and Eddie found themselves on the Orkney isle of Sanday in 2009 finding the body of Robert Rose then? Perhaps the UK police called him in because he was still valued despite no longer being employed by the police. That doesn't sound to me like someone who didn't have a career.

[Mr Gray]

I wonder how Grime and Eddie found themselves on the Orkney isle of Sanday in 2009 finding the body of Robert Rose then? Perhaps the UK police called him in because he was still valued despite no longer being employed by the police. That doesn't sound to me like someone who didn't have a career.

One or two jobs doesn't make a career.....as I recall Eddie didn't find the body.
Scotland doesn't seem to have any trained cadaver dogs..or perhaps grime was more available and cheaper.
....perhaps the Scottish police believe in all the hype.

Grime now admits  Eddie could not be described as reliable

[kizzy]

One or two jobs doesn't make a career.....as I recall Eddie didn't find the body.
Scotland doesn't seem to have any trained cadaver dogs..or perhaps grime was more available and cheaper.
....perhaps the Scottish police believe in all the hype.

Grime now admits  Eddie could not be described as reliable

Wasn't only one or two jobs though was it ...as I said it wasn't G A who brought them in.

Yet the dogs earning £200.000 a year are supposed to have got it so wrong in the mccs case.


A dog who was 'earning' more money than her force's Chief Constable has been brought in to help Portuguese police in their hunt for missing Madeleine McCann.
 
Specially-trained Keela was flown to Praia da Luz in the Algarve last week because she can detect human blood - even after items have been cleaned or washed many times.
 
Keela, and another English springer spaniel called Eddie, have now both been enlisted in the hunt for the missing four-year-old.
 
Keela hit the headlines two years ago because she was earning more than her force's Chief Constable.
 
The South Yorkshire Police dog has already helped forces across the country, including working on the high-profile stabbing of pregnant mother Abigail Witchalls in Surrey, and was being hired out for £530 per day, plus expenses.
 
Back then she would have been earning almost £200,000 - around £70,000 more than her force's Chief Constable - if she worked every day of the year.
 
She has been trained to ignore decomposing body materials other than human blood.
 
And instead of barking when she smells blood, she has been trained to have a "passive" alert - freezing with her nose as near to the subject matter as possible without touching, to enable scientists to recover the sample quickly and efficiently.
 
This technique has saved time and money on major investigations.

[Venturi Swirl]

Grime seems to have given up on cadaver dog services and spends most of his time training puppies these days.  It’s probably a wise move.

[Mr Gray]

Wasn't only one or two jobs though was it ...as I said it wasn't G A who brought them in.

Yet the dogs earning £200.000 a year are supposed to have got it so wrong in the mccs case.


A dog who was 'earning' more money than her force's Chief Constable has been brought in to help Portuguese police in their hunt for missing Madeleine McCann.
 
Specially-trained Keela was flown to Praia da Luz in the Algarve last week because she can detect human blood - even after items have been cleaned or washed many times.
 
Keela, and another English springer spaniel called Eddie, have now both been enlisted in the hunt for the missing four-year-old.
 
Keela hit the headlines two years ago because she was earning more than her force's Chief Constable.
 
The South Yorkshire Police dog has already helped forces across the country, including working on the high-profile stabbing of pregnant mother Abigail Witchalls in Surrey, and was being hired out for £530 per day, plus expenses.
 
Back then she would have been earning almost £200,000 - around £70,000 more than her force's Chief Constable - if she worked every day of the year.
 
She has been trained to ignore decomposing body materials other than human blood.
 
And instead of barking when she smells blood, she has been trained to have a "passive" alert - freezing with her nose as near to the subject matter as possible without touching, to enable scientists to recover the sample quickly and efficiently.
 
This technique has saved time and money on major investigations.

the dogs didnt  earn 200,000 a year...you are believing a load of twaddle..

[G-Unit]

One or two jobs doesn't make a career.....as I recall Eddie didn't find the body.
Scotland doesn't seem to have any trained cadaver dogs..or perhaps grime was more available and cheaper.
....perhaps the Scottish police believe in all the hype.

Grime now admits  Eddie could not be described as reliable

Your arrogance is unbelievable. You have no idea what Grime was doing when he wasn't being reported in the press.

[Mr Gray]

Your arrogance is unbelievable. You have no idea what Grime was doing when he wasn't being reported in the press.

you are mistaking arrogance for knowledge...I'm flattered...but then again I already know how vast my knowledge is of Grime and his dogs

[kizzy]

you are mistaking arrogance for knowledge...I'm flattered...but then again I already know how vast my knowledge is of Grime and his dogs

Oh. there is a pattern here MR you know everything....nothing to do with knowledge Im afraid .


What is the true meaning of arrogance?
1 : exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner an arrogant official. 2 : showing an offensive attitude of superiority : proceeding from or characterized by arrogance an arrogant reply.

[Mr Gray]

Oh. there is a pattern here MR you know everything....nothing to do with knowledge Im afraid .


What is the true meaning of arrogance?
1 : exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner an arrogant official. 2 : showing an offensive attitude of superiority : proceeding from or characterized by arrogance an arrogant reply.

youve claimed dogs insured for a million...and the earn 200k per year....both wrong...my knowledge corrects you

[kizzy]

youve claimed dogs insured for a million...and the earn 200k per year....both wrong...my knowledge corrects you

It isnt me you should be correcting.

The original point was how can two top class trained dogs get it so wrong ....as you continually claim.

In an earlier post you said "Grime had his excuse ready"...but what would the reason be for doing that.

He obviously it seems -  knew maddie was not going to be found alive.



- There are signs of death in Apartment 5A. It's necessary to confirm that, prior to 3 May, no one had died there. The OC has no records of anything like that, nor the fire department, nor the paramedics, nor the prior apt owners knew of any death in the apt.

- It is concluded, therefore, that the cadaver odor could only come from one person: Madeleine Beth McCann
 
Findings, as detailed in the PJ's 57-page report summary
 
1 - Apartment 5A, of the resort 'Ocean Club', place from where the child disappeared.

- cadaver odour dog:
*in the couple’s bedroom, in a corner, close to the wardrobe;
*in the living room, behind the sofa, close to the lateral window of the apartment;

[Mr Gray]

It isnt me you should be correcting.

The original point was how can two top class trained dogs get it so wrong ....as you continually claim.

In an earlier post you said "Grime had his excuse ready"...but what would the reason be for doing that.

He obviously it seems -  knew maddie was not going to be found alive.



- There are signs of death in Apartment 5A. It's necessary to confirm that, prior to 3 May, no one had died there. The OC has no records of anything like that, nor the fire department, nor the paramedics, nor the prior apt owners knew of any death in the apt.

- It is concluded, therefore, that the cadaver odor could only come from one person: Madeleine Beth McCann
 
Findings, as detailed in the PJ's 57-page report summary
 
1 - Apartment 5A, of the resort 'Ocean Club', place from where the child disappeared.

- cadaver odour dog:
*in the couple’s bedroom, in a corner, close to the wardrobe;
*in the living room, behind the sofa, close to the lateral window of the apartment;

I've been called arrogant so it's reasonable to refer to you as ignorant..ignorant of the facts.

You believe a load of twaddle.

It is not a fact there was a cadaver in 5a......even grime doesnt say that.

All my post is fact..
No opinion...you need to understand the truth..you don't

[Mr Gray]

It isnt me you should be correcting.

The original point was how can two top class trained dogs get it so wrong ....as you continually claim.

In an earlier post you said "Grime had his excuse ready"...but what would the reason be for doing that.

He obviously it seems -  knew maddie was not going to be found alive.



- There are signs of death in Apartment 5A. It's necessary to confirm that, prior to 3 May, no one had died there. The OC has no records of anything like that, nor the fire department, nor the paramedics, nor the prior apt owners knew of any death in the apt.

- It is concluded, therefore, that the cadaver odor could only come from one person: Madeleine Beth McCann
 
Findings, as detailed in the PJ's 57-page report summary
 
1 - Apartment 5A, of the resort 'Ocean Club', place from where the child disappeared.

- cadaver odour dog:
*in the couple’s bedroom, in a corner, close to the wardrobe;
*in the living room, behind the sofa, close to the lateral window of the apartment;

Eddie was not a top trained dog.....according to grime...unreliable...according to grime....no opinion...facts