Author Topic: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - "did Kate enter by the front door"?  (Read 12055 times)

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Offline Carana

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2018, 04:50:20 PM »
I totally agree.   At least that makes sense, with evidence of confusion over the doors available to back it up.

Nothing whatsoever to explain why Gerry would choose to walk past a door which he knew was unlocked a few feet away from him and decide to go the much longer way round to achieve the same goal  i.e. simply to gain entrance into 5A.   That makes no sense IMO.

Whatever the reason he gave for correcting his statement, it could not have been anything important to the case otherwise it would have been recorded in detail in his amended statement and Amaral would have told us what it was - and not just revealed that he changed his statement.

All in my opinion.   

Except that people are still talking about this apparent "discrepancy" over 10 years later...

Offline Benice

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2018, 05:00:11 PM »
Except that people are still talking about this apparent "discrepancy" over 10 years later...


IMO this is exactly the kind of 'discrepancy' which SY would be able to very easily clear up - either by asking Gerry to explain what happened and/or because of information they already had themselves, but which we have not been privy to.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2018, 05:03:50 PM »
I totally agree.   At least that makes sense, with evidence of confusion over the doors available to back it up.

Nothing whatsoever to explain why Gerry would choose to walk past a door which he knew was unlocked a few feet away from him and decide to go the much longer way round to achieve the same goal  i.e. simply to gain entrance into 5A.   That makes no sense IMO.

Whatever the reason he gave for correcting his statement, it could not have been anything important to the case otherwise it would have been recorded in detail in his amended statement and Amaral would have told us what it was - and not just revealed that he changed his statement.

All in my opinion.   

It makes sense if you know what likely happened - remember a girl disappeared. If you don't know what happened then of course it doesn't make sense to you.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2018, 05:33:47 PM »
It makes sense if you know what likely happened - remember a girl disappeared. If you don't know what happened then of course it doesn't make sense to you.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2018, 05:34:35 PM »

IMO this is exactly the kind of 'discrepancy' which SY would be able to very easily clear up - either by asking Gerry to explain what happened and/or because of information they already had themselves, but which we have not been privy to.

The people to speak to would be the interpreters, and the time to do it was after the second statement was taken while it was fresh in their minds. No point in asking anyone years after the event imo.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2018, 05:35:08 PM »
My take is that there was no agreement as to what constituted the back or the front door, so each party thought they were referring to the other one.

Then that's what Gerry would have said surely ?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2018, 05:43:27 PM »
There's no evidence of this.
When he makes his second statement he says he wishes to change his statement.
He does not say that the original one was wrongly transcribed or mistranslated, only that he wants to change it.
Did he say change it or clarify?  He changes the door he enters in his second statement but without making any hoo ha about it.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2018, 05:45:30 PM »
Verbatim transcripts might have been helpful...
What language?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2018, 05:47:03 PM »
My take is that there was no agreement as to what constituted the back or the front door, so each party thought they were referring to the other one.
Whatever it was called one was needing a key and the other didn't.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2018, 05:59:10 PM »
What language?

English  of course...... It's fairly  obvious  that the discrepancy are the door was caused by the translations... Imo
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2018, 06:04:05 PM »
English  of course...... It's fairly  obvious  that the discrepancy are the door was caused by the translations... Imo
Without a verbatim English account  it's impossible  to know exactly  what the mccanns actually  said... Fact
We've tackled this topic several times, but I do agree an English version should have been produced at the time.
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Offline Carana

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2018, 06:05:52 PM »
English  of course...... It's fairly  obvious  that the discrepancy are the door was caused by the translations... Imo
Without a verbatim English account  it's impossible  to know exactly  what the mccanns actually  said... Fact

Ideally, a recorded interview: the inspector's questions, the interpreter (both ways) and the witness would show where any misunderstandings occurred. I'm not sure that happens anywhere for a simple witness interview, though.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2018, 06:13:26 PM »
Ideally, a recorded interview: the inspector's questions, the interpreter (both ways) and the witness would show where any misunderstandings occurred. I'm not sure that happens anywhere for a simple witness interview, though.

Without an original English  transcript  the, statements are worthless imo

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2018, 06:15:56 PM »
Without an original English  transcript  the, statements are worthless imo
Well we have major problems then haven't we!
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has the discrepancy been discussed before - Kate used the front door!
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2018, 06:18:52 PM »
Well we have major problems then haven't we!

No we don't... I'm sure SY will have asked the mccanns to go over the events