Author Topic: EU membership, should we stay or leave?  (Read 126798 times)

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Offline misty

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #120 on: June 13, 2016, 09:34:17 PM »
There is no turning back on our membership within the EU; we are in too deep & the prospect of isolation & vulnerability to hostile invasion cannot be ignored. If we can't control immigration with the help of our neighbours, what hope of doing it on our own? How & where will we deport?


« Last Edit: June 14, 2016, 11:28:18 AM by misty »

Offline mercury

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #121 on: June 14, 2016, 12:47:49 AM »
So predictable but true or not?


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/13/george-osborne-brexit-is-for-the-rich-recessions

the philosophy and politics of fear is hardly positive

Is this toff wise? And right?

stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #122 on: June 15, 2016, 09:10:12 AM »
In the south east we never had a problem until the French started prevaricating over the migrants milling around at their ports.  These people are illegals, they have no right of entry to the UK.  To be fair, the poor old French couldn't send them back because it was contrary to EU law.

Any illegal caught in transit to or in the UK should be deported within 24 hours and fingerprinted to ensure they will never get entry.  A zero tolerance approach is what is required.

And another thing, many illegals found in the UK abandoned their children in France.  They are now seeking to be reunited with those same children here in England.  They must think we are f......n stupid!

So Angelo, can you tell me that if we leave the EU, which is I believe quite likely, and immigrants still try to get into this country, via the Eurotunnel, boats, via flights, etc.

How will it be stopped ?

We won't be able to send them to EU countries, will we. 8)-)))

Online Wonderfulspam

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #123 on: June 15, 2016, 12:48:38 PM »
Let all the migrants into the tunnel, then seal both ends.

That would be my policy.

Vote Trump.
I stand with Putin. Glory to Mother Putin.

stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #124 on: June 16, 2016, 08:13:10 AM »
So another lie from Brexit.

Gove has lied about the sale of his adopted father's fishing business.

He wasn't forced to sell it, it was a voluntary decision.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/15/michael-gove-father-company-eu-policies-fish-processing-aberdeen

Offline John

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #125 on: June 16, 2016, 01:59:04 PM »
So another lie from Brexit.

Gove has lied about the sale of his adopted father's fishing business.

He wasn't forced to sell it, it was a voluntary decision.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/15/michael-gove-father-company-eu-policies-fish-processing-aberdeen

I think 'forced to sell' covers it quite nicely considering.  Or to put it another way, he would not have sold had the following not occurred.  You could indeed say it was his choice but his hand was forced by various factors.

Ernest Gove told the Guardian that he sold the business voluntarily because the fishing industry in Aberdeen was being hit by a range of different factors. These included competition for space in the port from North Sea oil vessels, the Icelandic cod wars, dockworkers’ strikes and new 200-mile limits to control over-fishing.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2016, 02:01:47 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #126 on: June 16, 2016, 02:05:59 PM »
So Angelo, can you tell me that if we leave the EU, which is I believe quite likely, and immigrants still try to get into this country, via the Eurotunnel, boats, via flights, etc.

How will it be stopped ?

We won't be able to send them to EU countries, will we. 8)-)))

In fact we will just as we repatriated people prior to EU laws coming into effect. 
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #127 on: June 16, 2016, 02:53:39 PM »
I think 'forced to sell' covers it quite nicely considering.  Or to put it another way, he would not have sold had the following not occurred.  You could indeed say it was his choice but his hand was forced by various factors.

Ernest Gove told the Guardian that he sold the business voluntarily because the fishing industry in Aberdeen was being hit by a range of different factors. These included competition for space in the port from North Sea oil vessels, the Icelandic cod wars, dockworkers’ strikes and new 200-mile limits to control over-fishing.

So he sold for a profit and made money.

So his adopted son was talking out of his arse.

stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #128 on: June 16, 2016, 02:56:01 PM »
In fact we will just as we repatriated people prior to EU laws coming into effect.


Fine in theory.

Where would they be returned to ?

....and what if the countries of origin refuse to accept them back ?

stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #129 on: June 16, 2016, 05:01:23 PM »
Labour M.P. who was shot 3 times and stabbed with a foot long knife, her attacker shouted apparently,  'Britain First'.

Offline Angelo222

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #130 on: June 16, 2016, 08:37:45 PM »
Labour M.P. who was shot 3 times and stabbed with a foot long knife, her attacker shouted apparently,  'Britain First'.

A lot of people feel totally disenfranchised in their own country due to the pathetic policies enacted by Blair and Brown which have literally seen millions of immigrants flood into London and the south east.  God forbid if Corbyn ever came to power with his open door policies.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2016, 08:41:42 PM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #131 on: June 16, 2016, 08:49:28 PM »
A lot of people feel totally disenfranchised in their own country due to the pathetic policies enacted by Blair and Brown which have literally seen millions of immigrants flood into London and the south east.  God forbid if Corbyn ever came to power with his open door policies.

Bearing in mind what has happened today Angelo in Yorkshire , that comment in my view is bad taste.

Do you know what the murderer shouted as he shot and then stabbed to death Jo Cox  ?

Read above if you haven't.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2016, 08:52:09 PM by stephen25000 »

Offline Angelo222

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #132 on: June 16, 2016, 09:12:38 PM »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

stephen25000

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Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #133 on: June 16, 2016, 09:44:28 PM »
How to send your EU remain propaganda leaflet back to David Cameron.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/660228/EU-Referendum-2016-Leaflet-Row-How-to-Send-Back-Return-Downing-Street

As for the Brexit leaflets.

Perhaps the local recycling bin, or as lavatory paper, as they are both full of crap.

Offline John

Re: EU membership, should we stay or leave?
« Reply #134 on: June 16, 2016, 09:47:46 PM »
As for the Brexit leaflets.

Perhaps the local recycling bin, or as lavatory paper, as they are both full of crap.

You haven't explained your stance yet Stephen.  Do you want your country overrun by thugs from Eastern Europe and the Middle East because if the status quo is maintained that is exactly where it is going?

The simple truth is that the EU has blocked repatriation of illegal immigrants so as long as we remain within the EU that will never change.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.