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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #210 on: May 20, 2018, 12:35:15 PM »
If they had forgiven Sr Amaral, why not use this anniversary to tell their adoring fan base or to tell Amaral they were wrong?

It is hogwash because you are either a forgiving person or you are not!...

Re Kate's book and quote. I find it very interesting that she should describe MBMs suspected injury in such detail. Is there a literary requirement for this?

In the context of her being all forgiving of an abductor who is capable of hurting her daughter in this way beggars belief actually.

They cannot remove themselves from an abductor story-  this is their claim, not mine, and they claim she was abducted by a suspected paedophile gang- in light of this, I find their behaviour regarding this whole business to be very strange indeed.

 Can you tell me why I shouldn't quote parts of  Kates book which I find nauseating? (I never read it- it was my friend in child protection who brought it up one morning)or should I just quote the nice bits? Or how about

"KM writes about one of her earlier encounters, when Luis Neves seemed quite compliant, that, “My frustration with their lack of progress, combined with what they were actually telling us about him, whipped up a storm of fury in me that was completely out of character. It seems to me now as if for several months I was possessed by some demonic alien that infiltrated my thoughts and filled me with anger and hatred. I needed a face on which to pin all this rage, someone to blame.”

http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.com.tr/2018/05/that-bus-doesnt-stop-no-more.html?m=1

It seems that your extreme antipathy towards the McCanns and Kate in particular makes it impossible to have a reasonable discussion with you on the subject so I shall not bother in future, simply to say that your opinion that "you are either a forgiving person or you're not" is in my opinion hopelessly simplistic and black and white.  I shall not waste my time with any further discourse with you, please forgive me.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2018, 04:35:50 PM by John »
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Brietta

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #211 on: May 20, 2018, 02:16:12 PM »

Seems like he has - he keeps a dignified silence.

Would have been a good start - if they did had done that at the anniversary.

After all she could forgive the abductor it seems.

Not that anyone seems to bother any more about thread topics ... but worth bearing in mind that there is no annual interview.

In my opinion writing a book accusing innocent people of crimes does not come into the category of "dignified silence" and not content with that making a documentary film and becoming a television pundit whose expert subject was the McCann case to reinforce that, can in my opinion be referred to as a lot of things without featuring dignity of any description.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #212 on: May 20, 2018, 02:27:24 PM »
Not that anyone seems to bother any more about thread topics ... but worth bearing in mind that there is no annual interview.

In my opinion writing a book accusing innocent people of crimes does not come into the category of "dignified silence" and not content with that making a documentary film and becoming a television pundit whose expert subject was the McCann case to reinforce that, can in my opinion be referred to as a lot of things without featuring dignity of any description.

NO annual interview as they probably realise it is now a waste of time - no one listens to them imo

You don't know he wrote a book about innocent people, do you...as in you don't know what the out come is going to be.

Seems more important people than you - thought he was in the right to do so.

You can even buy it on amazon in english.



https://www.amazon.co.uk/Truth-Lie-Gon%C3%A7alo-Amaral-Madeleine/dp/B075QGMFLH

Simply and movingly written by the senior detective whose job it was to find out what happened to madeleine. Gradually, certain inconsistencies
dawn on him, and many tin tacks seem to be thrown under his wheels. He tries to keep all possibilities open and not close off any theories without good reason to do so.

Offline Snowgirl

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #213 on: May 20, 2018, 03:04:31 PM »
Not that anyone seems to bother any more about thread topics ... but worth bearing in mind that there is no annual interview.

In my opinion writing a book accusing innocent people of crimes does not come into the category of "dignified silence" and not content with that making a documentary film and becoming a television pundit whose expert subject was the McCann case to reinforce that, can in my opinion be referred to as a lot of things without featuring dignity of any description.
Are we talking Amaral here ?
    If so  please explain how you have  come to the conclusion  that the McCanns are innocent.


Offline John

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #215 on: May 20, 2018, 04:47:59 PM »
« Last Edit: May 21, 2018, 04:13:56 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Brietta

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #216 on: May 20, 2018, 05:07:16 PM »
Wasn't the decision not to give an interview this anniversary somehow attributed to Scotland Yard?  In my experience the police will only involve themselves in such matters if it could be seen to have a detrimental effect on an active enquiry. SY for their part are not giving anything away which sort of implies one of two possibilities. They are either on the crest of a mammoth breakthrough in the case or are lost in a mist of confusion.  Your choice?

I'm hoping for the former.

In my opinion the Sun story detailing the unsubstantiated story of a police 'warning' used precisely the logic you detail to sell a few more copies safe in the knowledge it would be more bother than it was worth to challenge it since in essence the truth of the matter is that the McCanns must always be on their guard when speaking of Madeleine's case anyway.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #217 on: May 20, 2018, 05:31:28 PM »
I'm hoping for the former.

In my opinion the Sun story detailing the unsubstantiated story of a police 'warning' used precisely the logic you detail to sell a few more copies safe in the knowledge it would be more bother than it was worth to challenge it since in essence the truth of the matter is that the McCanns must always be on their guard when speaking of Madeleine's case anyway.

Ah so that is why you are trying to debunk the annual anniversary interview. If you can prove there was no annual interview then you don’t have to find a reason for there not being one this year.

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #218 on: May 20, 2018, 06:13:51 PM »
2008 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/1918275/Gerry-and-Kate-McCann-Full-interview-transcript.html

2009 https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/01/madeleine-mccann-picture

2010 http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/36april10/BBC_30_04_10.htm

2011 https://youtu.be/CRw5wMx0QcM

2012 https://youtu.be/divprR1XZKM

2013 https://youtu.be/v223wFIwq0E

2014 https://youtu.be/gU10-0zclnc

2015 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/madeleine-mccann-parents-speak-of-continuing-heartbreak-as-eighth-anniversary-approaches-10220088.html

2016 https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/666748/McCann-s-say-there-s-always-hope-new-Maddie-statement-on-9th-anniversary-disappearance

2017 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-watch-full-interview-10326286

Thank you for your effort, Slarti, I first requested a cite from Faith on the 5th of May, so it has been a long time coming, and at least you have followed forum protocol which was conscientious considering you never made the claim in the first instance.
I wasn't going to bother responding because in my opinion John's post covered it well enough, but I have been challenged elsewhere and feel needs must for the sake of integrity.

Bearing in mind that my request regarding the annual interview was for the period from the reopening of Madeleine's case in 2013 to the present day.
Please note my opinion on your post as follows ...

2008 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/1918275/Gerry-and-Kate-McCann-Full-interview-transcript.html
Not Applicable: prior to Madeleine’s case being reopened

2009 https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/01/madeleine-mccann-picture
NA: prior to Madeleine’s case being reopened

2010 http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/36april10/BBC_30_04_10.htm
NA: prior to Madeleine’s case being reopened

2011 https://youtu.be/CRw5wMx0QcM
NA: prior to Madeleine’s case being reopened

2012 https://youtu.be/divprR1XZKM
NA: prior to Madeleine’s case being reopened

I've watched none of these because it was outwith my request for a cite,

2013 https://youtu.be/v223wFIwq0E
NA: the video was made in 2011 on the day of the book launch of MADELEINE which took place in 2011 prior to Madeleine’s case being reopened

2014 https://youtu.be/gU10-0zclnc
7th anniversary interview

2015 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/madeleine-mccann-parents-speak-of-continuing-heartbreak-as-eighth-anniversary-approaches-10220088.html
In a statement released today, Madeleine’s parents said: “Whilst most days, weeks and months are fairly similar – Madeleine is missed every day – this time of year cuts deep as it's a harsh reminder of time having passed and precious years with Madeleine lost. Therefore NA

2016 https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/666748/McCann-s-say-there-s-always-hope-new-Maddie-statement-on-9th-anniversary-disappearance
THE devastated parents of missing Madeleine McCann have vowed "there will always be hope" as they release a statement to mark the anniversary of their daughter's disappearance.   Therefore NA

2017 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-watch-full-interview-10326286
NA: excluded from the request
"Faith. While we are on the subject of cites, have you found one yet which confirms annual interviews each anniversary with the exception of the tenth?
I have requested one two or three times, you must have missed them."
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9435.msg460675#msg460675

In 2018 ... another statement ...

Official Find Madeleine Campaign
5 hrs ·
May 2018 – 11th Anniversary of Madeleine’s Abduction

It gets harder to know what to say or write as each anniversary of Madeleine’s abduction approaches then passes. Life is full and busy which helps but Madeleine is still missing and she is still dearly missed. Information continues to come in (incredible as it may seem after so long, although we are grateful for that) and work goes on. Perseverance and hope remain.

Thank you to everyone who continues to support us and wish us, especially Madeleine, well. After eleven years such warmth and persisting solidarity is truly remarkable, and at the same time a real tonic and boost to our spirit. We couldn’t bear for Madeleine to be forgotten or to become just a ‘story’. She is a real person and still our ‘little girl’ and as we always have, we will endeavour to do whatever it takes to find her. Thank you so much for staying with us on this mission.

Kate and Gerry

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-post-heartfelt-12470455
Tracey's report in the Mirror.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9435.msg459561#msg459561


So in my opinion that is categorical in that there was no annual interview covering the time period I requested the cite for.  I couldn't find one despite my best efforts and it seems neither did you.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2018, 04:16:46 PM by John »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #219 on: May 20, 2018, 06:25:34 PM »
It happens - you request a cite and then have to find it yourself!
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #220 on: May 20, 2018, 09:29:47 PM »
It seems that your extreme antipathy towards the McCanns and Kate in particular makes it impossible to have a reasonable discussion with you on the subject so I shall not bother in future, simply to say that your opinion that "you are either a forgiving person or you're not" is in my opinion hopelessly simplistic and black and white.  I shall not waste my time with any further discourse with you, please forgive me.

Obviously hit a never there...  I quoted a part of Kates book in her own words, why not debate the subject matter in the post, is it because you can't? 
« Last Edit: May 22, 2018, 01:02:24 PM by Angelo222 »
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #221 on: May 20, 2018, 09:36:19 PM »
Are we talking Amaral here ?
    If so  please explain how you have  come to the conclusion  that the McCanns are innocent.

Yeah they have not been charged  or found innocent by a court of law

Wasn't the decision not to give an interview this anniversary somehow attributed to Scotland Yard?  In my experience the police will only involve themselves in such matters if it could be seen to have a detrimental effect on an active enquiry. SY for their part are not giving anything away which sort of implies one of two possibilities. They are either on the crest of a mammoth breakthrough in the case or are lost in a mist of confusion.  Your choice?


Or it is just another story...The McCanns can't give an interview in case they let slip... what? naming people who are about to be arrested?  tsk tsk
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Robittybob1

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #222 on: May 21, 2018, 12:32:08 AM »
Yeah they have not been charged  or found innocent by a court of law

Or it is just another story...The McCanns can't give an interview in case they let slip... what? naming people who are about to be arrested?  tsk tsk
Quite possible, when you think about it, considering the effort gone into finding a solution.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #223 on: May 21, 2018, 09:56:35 AM »
Thank you for your effort, Slarti, I first requested a cite from Faith on the 5th of May, so it has been a long time coming, and at least you have followed forum protocol which was conscientious considering you never made the claim in the first instance.
I wasn't going to bother responding because in my opinion John's post covered it well enough, but I have been challenged elsewhere and feel needs must for the sake of integrity.

Bearing in mind that my request regarding the annual interview was for the period from the reopening of Madeleine's case in 2013 to the present day.
Please note my opinion on your post as follows ...

2008 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/1918275/Gerry-and-Kate-McCann-Full-interview-transcript.html
Not Applicable: prior to Madeleine’s case being reopened

2009 https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/01/madeleine-mccann-picture
NA: prior to Madeleine’s case being reopened

2010 http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/36april10/BBC_30_04_10.htm
NA: prior to Madeleine’s case being reopened

2011 https://youtu.be/CRw5wMx0QcM
NA: prior to Madeleine’s case being reopened

2012 https://youtu.be/divprR1XZKM
NA: prior to Madeleine’s case being reopened

I've watched none of these because it was outwith my request for a cite,

2013 https://youtu.be/v223wFIwq0E
NA: the video was made in 2011 on the day of the book launch of MADEEINE which took place in 2011 prior to Madeleine’s case being reopened

2014 https://youtu.be/gU10-0zclnc
7th anniversary interview

2015 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/madeleine-mccann-parents-speak-of-continuing-heartbreak-as-eighth-anniversary-approaches-10220088.html
In a statement released today, Madeleine’s parents said: “Whilst most days, weeks and months are fairly similar – Madeleine is missed every day – this time of year cuts deep as it's a harsh reminder of time having passed and precious years with Madeleine lost. Therefore NA

2016 https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/666748/McCann-s-say-there-s-always-hope-new-Maddie-statement-on-9th-anniversary-disappearance
THE devastated parents of missing Madeleine McCann have vowed "there will always be hope" as they release a statement to mark the anniversary of their daughter's disappearance.   Therefore NA

2017 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-watch-full-interview-10326286
NA: excluded from the request
"Faith. While we are on the subject of cites, have you found one yet which confirms annual interviews each anniversary with the exception of the tenth?
I have requested one two or three times, you must have missed them."
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9435.msg460675#msg460675

In 2018 ... another statement ...

Official Find Madeleine Campaign
5 hrs ·
May 2018 – 11th Anniversary of Madeleine’s Abduction

It gets harder to know what to say or write as each anniversary of Madeleine’s abduction approaches then passes. Life is full and busy which helps but Madeleine is still missing and she is still dearly missed. Information continues to come in (incredible as it may seem after so long, although we are grateful for that) and work goes on. Perseverance and hope remain.

Thank you to everyone who continues to support us and wish us, especially Madeleine, well. After eleven years such warmth and persisting solidarity is truly remarkable, and at the same time a real tonic and boost to our spirit. We couldn’t bear for Madeleine to be forgotten or to become just a ‘story’. She is a real person and still our ‘little girl’ and as we always have, we will endeavour to do whatever it takes to find her. Thank you so much for staying with us on this mission.

Kate and Gerry

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-post-heartfelt-12470455
Tracey's report in the Mirror.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9435.msg459561#msg459561


So in my opinion that is categorical in that there was no annual interview covering the time period I requested the cite for.  I couldn't find one despite my best efforts and it seems neither did you.

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner but I was busy. Thank you for Slarti and your hard work.

Ironically what you have managed to prove is this year really is a break from the norm. While the parents have not given a regular annual interview since the reopening of the case by OG neither have they felt the need to give a reason for that. What changed this year ?
« Last Edit: May 21, 2018, 04:18:34 PM by John »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: No Interview This Anniversary ?
« Reply #224 on: May 21, 2018, 10:13:51 AM »
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner but I was busy having a life. Thank you for Slarti and your hard work.

Ironically what you have managed to prove is this year really is a break from the norm. While the parents have not given a regular annual interview since the reopening of the case by OG neither have they felt the need to give a reason for that. What changed this year ?

A tabloid doing what tabloids sometimes do best?  Kate and Gerry issued a statement ... that can be trusted to have emanated from them.  Unattributed quotes are not quite the same.

What Slarti and I have proved is that there was one "break from the norm" which was on the seventh anniversary.

You said "Every year since 2012 they have given an interview on the anniversary while the investigation trundled on. Every year they have said in that interview that they can't discuss any specific details about the investigation....why couldn't they simply say that this year ?" http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9435.msg459343#msg459343
In my opinion that statement which you cannot substantiate is wrong and your post suggests to me that you do not have the grace to accept that and move on from there.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....