Quote from: Paranoid Android on Today at 12:07:56 AM
Might be best if people stop trying to score points off each other from the anniversary of the tragic murder of a young girl at the hands of a psychotic sadistic maniac.
When was the last time anyone posted about the actual case?
I agree. Most of the discussion on these threads seems to be about Sandra Lean and/or the campaign team, rather than about the actual case!
This has been discussed many times, reasons as to why the writer and new campaigners are at the fore of discussion. The first in making people aware that all is not as it seems with the author. The latter in their deciphering of what has been put out. The horrendous smear campaign that has taken place against innocent people. The criticism of Ms Lean and Co is not a patch on what her work has produced over time upon others.
Where discussion of the actual case/evidence is concerned - it is at all times distracted from by those promoting innocence. One of the main tactics used by that handful of people over time. It starts with the usual, of pulling up some of Ms Leans case as proof against what one is saying to be wrong.Then onto, why should anyone believe you over Ms Lean who has all the answers? Then onto cites, it you can't provide cites then you should be ignored. Then onto mockery. And if one survives all of that it is the blatant distraction of the alter egos. Popping up swaying the topic into other avenues.
It is the very reason that every topic is a mishmash of nonsense at times. It is now allowed to run coherently. For it shows the evidence against LM all too clearly.
Of evidence. First and foremost yet again, that concocted alibi. That went from 40-45 mins to then being squashed into less than 15mins. Then we move onto the claimed time of waiting for Jodi, twiddling ones thumbs. That initially was centered around 30mins. Of LM using the sightings by the boys he knew and person from the estate. Which then turned into 90mins in reality. Until the point in which he phoned the boys for the meet in the abbey. That those sightings of him by the boys on the bike etc, when confirmed together with the police - amounted to just 20mins.
From this 90mins we can then go into the gaping holes, not of time but of contradictory evidence. We can for this part leave F&W aside. Even to leave AB aside. The point that needs to be discussed here in more depth is that of these claims of Luke simply waiting around. The first part of which is up to that 90mins mark. Starting with this call the Jones house. The house and not the mobile Jodi had used.
We can take from this first of all that this number was not saved into LM's phone. That those texts already exchanged had been deleted. But it is that first and second call to the Jones landline. The first being 5.32 when LM had all but just dialed the number, rang perhaps once and hung up. We know this due to the length in those phone logs. It was this reason that no one in the Jones house heard the phone for it was cut off as quickly as it was dialed. We can put this down to two things. One that LM heard someone and could not take the chance of being heard himself. That he waited until he was sure no one else was around. That he used more time to inflict more injuries, to initially clean himself - we will never know. What we do know is that first real attempt to speak to someone was some 6mins later at 5.38pm. And it is from this call, of being close to 5.45 he was to base his time of initially leaving home at. After dinner around 5.45pm. Here is that first clear contradiction that was to put LM out of his house at 5.30pm For that call had been picked up upon, he was not quick enough in dialing and hanging up.
Onto the time from 5.30pm. Firstly the ludicrous notion that this lad, any lad would simply be twiddling their thumbs, idling away waiting for anyone far less their girlfriend for the best part of 90mins. When he was to later claim there was no fixed plan to meet in the first instance. That web of deceit which was to firmly trap him. That whilst LM was making these ludicrous claims initially there was clear contradictory evidence coming in to show he was lying. That Jodi had left to meet with him much earlier than this time. That there had been a punishment in place which had only been lifted that day. That Jodi had only contacted one person to make arrangements to meet. That she had told her mother she was leaving to meet with Mitchell, that they would be "mucking around up here". That her mother had also told the police that she had told Jodi not to use this path alone, that she should not have been using it alone. And we have that clear knowledge of this path, of its isolation. The dangers of any young girl using it alone.
For this boy to make claim he had waited a short while and decided to meet with friends. That this short while in turn amounted to 90mins. For that alibi time to be squashed completely by two factors. That of CCTV from 'Morning, Noon and Night', for that first call which did show up to the Jones house at 5.32pm. Which added on time to this claimed wait. For LM to be told by Jodi's father she had already left to meet with him. That there was no plausible explanation in the slightest as to why LM did not walk up to meet with Jodi. That every account told, every other piece of information coming in, exposed the lies being told by the Mitchells. That CD was correct, that try as they might, they could not eliminate LM from the enquiry.
And we do have to add to this of that phone call to the boys. And of phoning them back to hurry them up, demanding to know where they were? It was never simply this case of being in the wrong place, LM was impatient, he needed to be in their company. One can almost say wired up. For he was different that evening, he was a lot cleaner and more kempt than usual. It was not of the norm for him to be phoning them to meet. The very reason he was asked "Where is Jodi?" They were wondering themselves why he had wanted to meet with them and not Jodi. And Ms Lean may tell you that we only have one boys word for LM stating "She is not coming out" She will as with SM not tell you much of anything else that was said or done with them that evening. Of this unusual request to meet, of Jodi not being with Luke. Of their activities in the woods that evening. Of her claims that LM had not been smoking cannabis that evening. Ignoring all of the evidence around this by going with those blood results, she claims took place between 5-6am on July the first. She knew he had been smoking but needed the insinuation that Jodi had not smoked with him - which was nonsense all along.
And we are met with the most ludicrous repetitive bleats of passing the buck. Of Jodi's parents not being worried therefore why should LM have been concerned? When we know there is absolutely no comparison to be made. it is futile projecting plain and simple. For they were on the blind side of things. They knew not where exactly "up here" the meet was to be. That Jodi could have been waiting on a late LM. That they were not idling the time away solely thinking of this. They had no reason to, and no reason at this point to be concerned. For LM had not phoned back, he had not alerted them to any facts of Jodi not turning up at this point. They were completely in the dark.
And we know without a shadow of a doubt that LM was not idling his time anywhere. That there was no reason for him to walk up an meet with Jodi at this point. That he did not have to be concerned in the slightest about Jodi's safety as she was already dead - He and only he knew this, for he had already left her dead in this woodland. And again these are the areas that were always going to catch him out. For he could not change what had been happening elsewhere in this investigation. Of every other piece of contradictory evidence.
