Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.

[Robittybob1]

By observation, Rob will try to find any excuse for thew McCann's behaviour.

As far as I can see they have done nothing wrong.

[stephen25000]

As far as I can see they have done nothing wrong.

Well, you definitely require assistance then.

[Robittybob1]

Well, you definitely require assistance then.

No I'm as sure as the SC ruling, I can't be overturned.

[ShiningInLuz]

Kindly tone it down.   

[carlymichelle]

No the blame would lie fair and square with the McCanns.

If for example you have a stair gate at home and your toddler climbs over it, you don't claim that the manufacturer is to blame.

exactly its called personal responsibility

[Robittybob1]

exactly its called personal responsibility

At home it is, but when you rent some of the responsibility falls back onto the landlord.
in NZ: http://www.nzpif.org.nz/news/view/57831
"As a rental property owner, you are in the business of operating a rental property. A central part of the new Act is that the Person Conducting a Business or Undertaking (known as a PCBU) will have the primary health and safety duty under the new law. As the owner of the rental property, you are the PCBU and have a primary duty of care. WorkSafe said that, "A PCBU has a duty to ensure health and safety ‘so far as is reasonably practicable’. It’s about what the PCBU can reasonably do to manage health and safety"."

[G-Unit]

At home it is, but when you rent some of the responsibility falls back onto the landlord.

Anyone who expects a landlord to provide gates which children can't climb is living in fantasy land.

[Robittybob1]

Anyone who expects a landlord to provide gates which children can't climb is living in fantasy land.

Are you sure?

[G-Unit]

Are you sure?

Absolutely. A landlord must make sure a gate is fit for purpose, but doesn't have to consider the safety of anyone using the gate for the wrong purpose, such as climbing over it.

[Robittybob1]

Absolutely. A landlord must make sure a gate is fit for purpose, but doesn't have to consider the safety of anyone using the gate for the wrong purpose, such as climbing over it.

when you consider McDonalds got sued for 2 million dollars for selling their coffee too hot, I think resorts where young children will be staying would be prudent to consider whether their security gates can be climbed by children.

[stephen25000]

when you consider McDonalds got sued for 2 million dollars for selling their coffee too hot, I think resorts where young children will be staying would be prudent to consider whether their security gates can be climbed by children.

So what should be done with all the tapas parents who left their children unattended, with infrequent checks lasting a few seconds ?

That is nothing to do with the resort, especially when they were offered back up services, including baby sitters ?

[stephen25000]

so shoulld every parent who has ever used a baby listening service i na hotel or villa complex face abandoment charges...what an absurd idea....

What baby listening service were the McCann's using, when leaving them in an unlocked apartment ?

They left all 3 children open to a variety of dangers. Another of the group had a sick child who had been vomiting.

A brief reminder..........

'Former minister of internal affairs Rui Pereira slammed Portuguese cops for not making Kate, 48, and 47-year-old dad Gerry suspects for abandonment.'

[Mr Gray]

What baby listening service were the McCann's using, when leaving them in an unlocked apartment ?

They left all 3 children open to a variety of dangers. Another of the group had a sick child who had been vomiting.

A brief reminder..........

'Former minister of internal affairs Rui Pereira slammed Portuguese cops for not making Kate, 48, and 47-year-old dad Gerry suspects for abandonment.'

you said ALL the tapas parents...go and read your own post again

[stephen25000]

you said ALL the tapas parents...go and read your own post again

I know what I typed.

They were all doing the same thing. They were all negligent.

Now dave, did the other members of the group leave their apartments unlocked ?

...and don't you agree with the Portuguese ex-Minister ?

[Miss Taken Identity]

No doubt he'll be blaming Dave next for organising the holiday 

Or Mark Warner for accepting it. Could even be my fault. I know an airline pilot if only he hadn't flown that day... I could have stopped him. OR how about thier line manager for giving them time off work...