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Offline mercury

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #495 on: November 03, 2015, 02:31:53 AM »
Fact is Merc there was a question, but then apparently no answer. If it had been answered straight away "in tapas restaurant then afterwards in tapas bar" then it couldn't have been dropped. It was obvious the question referred to Weds night isn't it?

I have no idea what image managers told them to say or not say, (quite nauseating that they had any anyway) how can one tell the difference? Thats why they are fair game...you would expect honest answers to questions FULL STOP and PERIOD and UNEQUIVOCABLY as this is not supposed to be a soap opera!!

Ps not sure what point youre making? Madeleine knew where her parents were or not, her parents didnt tell her? What? Need to go now see you tomorrow

As to when Madeleine woke up crying, you say Wednesday, others say Tuesday, no one has a fool proof argument, does it matter though? No



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Offline pegasus

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #496 on: November 03, 2015, 02:41:51 AM »
I have no idea what image managers told them to say or not say, (quite nauseating that they had any anyway) how can one tell the difference? Thats why they are fair game...you would expect honest answers to questions FULL STOP and PERIOD and UNEQUIVOCABLY as this is not supposed to be a soap opera!!

As to when Madeleine woke up crying, you say Wednesday, others say Tuesday, no one has a fool proof argument, does it matter though? No
It was very obvious the question Thu AM was about Weds night IMO Mercury.
And (very hypothetically of course) if someone rehearses an innocent witness how to phrase things then that's the trainer to ask not the witness.
(Mods: on topic because MWT theory more likely if knew where to wander to)
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Offline Benice

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #497 on: November 05, 2015, 08:12:50 AM »
It was very obvious the question Thu AM was about Weds night IMO Mercury.

And (very hypothetically of course) if someone rehearses an innocent witness how to phrase things then that's the trainer to ask not the witness.
(Mods: on topic because MWT theory more likely if knew where to wander to)

If Madeleine and Sean both cried on Wed night then surely Rachel Odlfield who was next door for the entire evening would have heard them?
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #498 on: November 05, 2015, 08:26:17 AM »
If Madeleine and Sean both cried on Wed night then surely Rachel Odlfield who was next door for the entire evening would have heard them?

this is why I think mrs fenn is mistaken

stephen25000

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #499 on: November 05, 2015, 08:33:23 AM »
this is why I think mrs fenn is mistaken

Mrs. Fenn was there, you weren't.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #500 on: November 05, 2015, 08:38:51 AM »
Mrs. Fenn was there, you weren't.

so we have to believe everything from those who were there

stephen25000

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #501 on: November 05, 2015, 08:59:26 AM »
so we have to believe everything from those who were there

So that includes the mccanns ? 8)--))

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #502 on: November 05, 2015, 09:05:26 AM »
So that includes the mccanns ? 8)--))

now can you see how stupid your post was

stephen25000

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #503 on: November 05, 2015, 09:28:46 AM »
now can you see how stupid your post was

Not in the slightest.

I would trust Mrs. Fenn's observations.

She had no axe to grind.

Unlike you.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #504 on: November 05, 2015, 10:41:24 AM »
this is why I think mrs fenn is mistaken

No you are mistaken. Rachel stayed in on WED next door and heard nowt!

"Grace would wake up sort of six o'clock most mornings and we'd always have to put her in the, in the shower or in the bath first thing, and Gerry and Kate would always hear that and so you know, most of the comments first thing in the morning would be like, oh so Grace was up early again, she'd be invariably screaming her head off, so'. " (RO)
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #505 on: November 05, 2015, 11:28:16 AM »
Not in the slightest.

I would trust Mrs. Fenn's observations.

She had no axe to grind.

Unlike you.

Let me see now ... Mrs Fenn gave a statement to the officers who were doing door to door checks in the building on the morning of the 4th asking her for details of anything of interest or unusual she may have noticed on the night before when the little girl one flight down went missing?

Of course she did not.  Her statement was given on the 20th of August 2007.  Hmmm.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #506 on: November 05, 2015, 11:41:11 AM »
Let me see now ... Mrs Fenn gave a statement to the officers who were doing door to door checks in the building on the morning of the 4th asking her for details of anything of interest or unusual she may have noticed on the night before when the little girl one flight down went missing?

Of course she did not.  Her statement was given on the 20th of August 2007.  Hmmm.

So you are implying Mrs. Fenn lied ?

Don't think so.

and children crying is hardly unusual, IS IT ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #507 on: November 05, 2015, 11:46:21 AM »
Not in the slightest.

I would trust Mrs. Fenn's observations.

She had no axe to grind.

Unlike you.


how much do you know about Mrs Fenn..nothing.....yet you trust her

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #508 on: November 05, 2015, 11:47:34 AM »
So you are implying Mrs. Fenn lied ?

Don't think so.

and children crying is hardly unusual, IS IT ?

old people get confused

stephen25000

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #509 on: November 05, 2015, 11:50:51 AM »
old people get confused

I presume you are talking about yourself.