Author Topic: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.  (Read 262485 times)

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Offline misty

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #615 on: November 07, 2015, 02:53:54 PM »
The mccanns and the majority of their supporters have claimed the book did.

It didn't.

The mere fact that so many folk would rather plough their money into Amaral's fund than the search for Madeleine proves the book has done harm.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #616 on: November 07, 2015, 02:57:25 PM »
T get back on track it is good to see that MWT supports the McCanns

Offline Brietta

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #617 on: November 07, 2015, 03:17:53 PM »
T get back on track it is good to see that MWT supports the McCanns

Comments made by the majority of former law enforcement officers, Brits and FBI, agree that Madeleine was abducted by a stranger.  It is also widely considered by professionals with experience in the field, that the first investigation was botched.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #618 on: November 07, 2015, 03:18:54 PM »
T get back on track it is good to see that MWT supports the McCanns

I don't think they would agree. They are adamant that Madeleine didn't wake and wander.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #619 on: November 07, 2015, 03:21:08 PM »
T get back on track it is good to see that MWT supports the McCanns
Precisely Davel his was an abduction by stranger theory with no involvement by either parent.
Yet remarkably it seems very few anti-Amaral posters like it.
As MWT correctly points out, opportunistic abduction from the street is far far more likely.
Why do you insist it had to be preplanned abduction from bed?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #620 on: November 07, 2015, 03:23:37 PM »
Precisely Davel his was an abduction by stranger theory with no involvement by either parent.
Yet remarkably it seems very few anti-Amaral posters like it.
As MWT correctly points out, opportunistic abduction from the street is far far more likely.
Why do you insist it had to be preplanned abduction from bed?

I've never insisted anything

I don't believe the parents are involved and that abduction is by far the most likely option
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Offline pegasus

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #621 on: November 07, 2015, 03:31:29 PM »
The people dining at the table did not see GM go in and out to do his check, did not see MO going in and out to do his check, and did not see KM going in and out to do her check. None of the diners were watching the lounge balcony door, and they couldn't even see the left part of it from the table anyway. Therefore if the child went out that lounge balcony door (MWT theory) the diners at the table would have been completely unaware.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #622 on: November 07, 2015, 03:39:40 PM »
Precisely Davel his was an abduction by stranger theory with no involvement by either parent.
Yet remarkably it seems very few anti-Amaral posters like it.
As MWT correctly points out, opportunistic abduction from the street is far far more likely.
Why do you insist it had to be preplanned abduction from bed?

Coz Kate and Gerry said so?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #623 on: November 07, 2015, 03:43:41 PM »
Coz Kate and Gerry said so?

that is your assumption which is incorrect..his decision is based on the assessment of the files he read

Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #624 on: November 07, 2015, 03:58:30 PM »
that is your assumption which is incorrect..his decision is based on the assessment of the files he read

I answered a question which had nothing to do with what you have posted.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #625 on: November 07, 2015, 04:03:02 PM »
The mere fact that so many folk would rather plough their money into Amaral's fund than the search for Madeleine proves the book has done harm.

Rubbish.

People have come to their conclusions without reading the book.

Offline pegasus

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #626 on: November 07, 2015, 04:50:47 PM »
that is your assumption which is incorrect..his decision is based on the assessment of the files he read
But wasn't MWT's theory published before the case files were released?
http://news.sky.com/story/599836/madeleine-my-theories-on-missing-girl

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #627 on: November 07, 2015, 07:12:07 PM »
The fact is posters have come to the conclusion that 13% is about an accurate percentage of money spent on the search for Madeleine,  when they have no idea about the cost of running the search for Madeleine fund.

I would say that it is a lot more than that,  but then again I have no experience in running such a fund.

Depends how the calculation is done. As a percentage of gross income the search costs were 13% for FY2007/2008. It is shown in the accounts filed at Companies House so no argument there. The sum was £250k spent on searching according the accounts. Total income £1.8MM total expenditure £811k.
I wouldn't express like that I would express it as a percentage of expenditure which make it 30% but whatever it is £250k cash money.
From FY 2008 onward it cannot be calculated because the costs are not broken down.
The gross figures are interesting if you know what you are looking at  8(>((
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #628 on: November 07, 2015, 07:17:54 PM »
Precisely Davel his was an abduction by stranger theory with no involvement by either parent.
Yet remarkably it seems very few anti-Amaral posters like it.
As MWT correctly points out, opportunistic abduction from the street is far far more likely.
Why do you insist it had to be preplanned abduction from bed?

I quite like MW-T's theory.
As I have pointed out before:
For there to have been an abduction the paths of the child and abductor had to have  crossed. That means she got out or he got in.
The consensus among the cops was there was no break in.
Self selecting if one insists on the abduction by stranger bit  ?>)()<
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Offline pegasus

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #629 on: November 07, 2015, 07:39:46 PM »
I quite like MW-T's theory.
As I have pointed out before:
For there to have been an abduction the paths of the child and abductor had to have  crossed. That means she got out or he got in.
The consensus among the cops was there was no break in.
Self selecting if one insists on the abduction by stranger bit  ?>)()<
Precisely Alice, MWT refers to the case of evil Whiting, who was an opportunistic abductor who saw a child in the street momentarily not in sight of anyone else. And expert O'C (whose theory is very similar to MWT's) refers to the case of evil Huntley, again an opportunistic abductor who saw two children in the street momentarily not in sight of anyone else. Both experts point out this is far more likely than the carefully pre-planned abduction from a bed, for which there is no evidence, that has been invented by Mr Amaral's opponents.
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