Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.

[pathfinder73]

I have countless times.

And I've reported you for goading.

I may report you again.

Report all you like because I've done nothing wrong and I don't report members.

You never back up your wild claims. Why were the tracking dogs given a blanket if they can't follow individual scent?

[ferryman]

Report all you like because I've done nothing wrong and I don't report members.

You never back up your wild claims. Why were the tracking dogs given a blanket if they can't follow individual scent?

Because their handlers had a stark choice between that or giving up.

[pathfinder73]

Because their handlers had a stark choice between that or giving up.

Wrong again. Those tracking dogs were brought in to track the missing girl's scent.

[G-Unit]

Thanks G. I can't believe posters don't know what tracking dogs do.

"The members of the GNR advised that the tracker dogs are trained to search mainly in rural areas, given the fact that the best capability of the animal is to identify a different and strong smell in a wide, open area."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/INFORMATION-SERVICE.htm

It's like pulling teeth. First they weren't tracker dogs. Then they might be but weren't trained for the work (of tracking?). Then they were search and rescue (wrongly translated).

Remember, according to the handlers they never got a blanket or any clothes, just a bath towel which may or may not have been used by Madeleine alone.

[ferryman]

It's like pulling teeth. First they weren't tracker dogs. Then they might be but weren't trained for the work (of tracking?). Then they were search and rescue (wrongly translated).

Remember, according to the handlers they never got a blanket or any clothes, just a bath towel which may or may not have been used by Madeleine alone.

It is certain that this kind of work does not correspond to the area that these dogs [Rex and Zarus] were trained in, ...

[Carana]

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing;

equipa de pistagem
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Team Tracking



 busco e salvamento
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seek and rescue

I'm aware of the difference between the two. However, there isn't enough information to know what specific training the "pistagem" ones had to distinguish between the various subcategories.

[pathfinder73]

It is certain that this kind of work does not correspond to the area that these dogs [Rex and Zarus] were trained in, ...

That is explained in the files but you claim tracking dogs can't follow individual human scent which is incorrect.

"The members of the GNR advised that the tracker dogs are trained to search mainly in rural areas, given the fact that the best capability of the animal is to identify a different and strong smell in a wide, open area."

[G-Unit]

I'm aware of the difference between the two. However, there isn't enough information to know what specific training the "pistagem" ones had to distinguish between the various subcategories.

It is there in the files. You don't need to know anything except that the two dogs were tracker dogs which, surprise surprise, track! Tracking means they track a specific scent. Search and rescue dogs look for any person.

[ferryman]

I'm aware of the difference between the two. However, there isn't enough information to know what specific training the "pistagem" ones had to distinguish between the various subcategories.

I would argue that (in the files!) there is.

Mark Harrison's reference is the clincher.

The Portuguese handlers had aerial-scenting dogs (of the type that track the generic human scent) ...

[Carana]

I would argue that (in the files!) there is.

Mark Harrison's reference is the clincher.

The Portuguese handlers had aerial-scenting dogs (of the type that track the generic human scent) ...

Yes, I agree with you.

Harrison:
The search was split into 3 zones radiating out from Praia Da Luz in a northward direction. The first zone extended 3km to the EN125 road at Espiche. W?hin this zone, sectors were drawn using the natural boundaries that exist and included the entire village. Officers were briefed and debriefed before and after deployments and records of activity collected. Each sector was repeatedly searched on 3 separate occasions over the 7 days using officers conducting line searches and supported by air scenting dogs.

[pathfinder73]

I would argue that (in the files!) there is.

Mark Harrison's reference is the clincher.

The Portuguese handlers had aerial-scenting dogs (of the type that track the generic human scent) ...

Harrison is not referring to the two tracking dogs so your claim is irrelevant.

[ferryman]

That is explained in the files but you claim tracking dogs can't follow individual human scent which is incorrect.

"The members of the GNR advised that the tracker dogs are trained to search mainly in rural areas, given the fact that the best capability of the animal is to identify a different and strong smell in a wide, open area."

You don't understand the difference between 'claims' and irrefutable facts.

Too bad.

[Carana]

It is there in the files. You don't need to know anything except that the two dogs were tracker dogs which, surprise surprise, track! Tracking means they track a specific scent. Search and rescue dogs look for any person.

There are different ways of "tracking" a scent, apparently.

I'll bow out and leave you all to discuss what the subtleties may be.

[G-Unit]

Yes, I agree with you.

Harrison:
The search was split into 3 zones radiating out from Praia Da Luz in a northward direction. The first zone extended 3km to the EN125 road at Espiche. W?hin this zone, sectors were drawn using the natural boundaries that exist and included the entire village. Officers were briefed and debriefed before and after deployments and records of activity collected. Each sector was repeatedly searched on 3 separate occasions over the 7 days using officers conducting line searches and supported by air scenting dogs.

The search and rescue dogs who searched the open areas and the beach. Not tracker dogs who were used to track whoever used the bath towel.

[ferryman]

The search and rescue dogs who searched the open areas and the beach. Not tracker dogs who were used to track whoever used the bath towel.

If (hypothetically) the Portuguese had dogs trained to track the (individual and unique!) scent why would they have wasted time and resources deploying dogs without that ability or training?