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Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1020 on: February 11, 2016, 08:57:28 PM »
Kate was questioned hard in September and revealed this about 3 May.

"After breakfast they got dressed and left the apartment by the main door. All children went walking. The veranda door was closed and locked."

"They entered the apartment by the main door, with the key. She does not know if it was locked, and presumes it was Gerry who opened it. At lunch time they also entered by the same door."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

So they enter all day with the key then leave it unlocked at night with their kids inside. None of it adds up.

Kate wrote every little detail in her journal too! Probably forgot to write about the doors though.

The fact that none of it adds up is why I, for one, wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them. Others will argue that they couldn't be expected to remember every little detail on a holiday. I'd accept that, but a) there's too many of these peculiarities and b) anyone who can't remember which door he used THE NIGHT BEFORE is 'avin a laff imo.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1021 on: February 11, 2016, 08:58:08 PM »
Kate was questioned hard in September and revealed this about 3 May.

"After breakfast they got dressed and left the apartment by the main door. All children went walking. The veranda door was closed and locked."

"They entered the apartment by the main door, with the key. She does not know if it was locked, and presumes it was Gerry who opened it. At lunch time they also entered by the same door."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

So they enter all day with the key then leave it unlocked at night with their kids inside. None of it adds up.

During the day, the kids were at their crèches and the parents were off playing tennis or whatever, and presumably anticipated being away for several hours at a stretch.

In the evening, whether one agrees with their reasoning or not, they seem to have felt that as they were so close to the apartment, they could simply nip back to check on the sleeping kids.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1022 on: February 11, 2016, 09:09:42 PM »
During the day, the kids were at their crèches and the parents were off playing tennis or whatever, and presumably anticipated being away for several hours at a stretch.

In the evening, whether one agrees with their reasoning or not, they seem to have felt that as they were so close to the apartment, they could simply nip back to check on the sleeping kids.

The excuses given, I believe, varied. i've seen 'not wanting to disturb the children' by turning the door key in the front door, leaving the patio door open 'in case of fire' and leaving it open so 'Madeleine could find them'. As soon as Madeleine disappeared, however, she 'wouldn't dream of wandering out of the apartment'. Why leave the door open then? Surely not because they just couldn't be bothered walking round to the front like everyone else, this super-fit sporty couple?
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1023 on: February 11, 2016, 11:23:24 PM »
Kate wrote every little detail in her journal too! Probably forgot to write about the doors though.

The fact that none of it adds up is why I, for one, wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them. Others will argue that they couldn't be expected to remember every little detail on a holiday. I'd accept that, but a) there's too many of these peculiarities and b) anyone who can't remember which door he used THE NIGHT BEFORE is 'avin a laff imo.
None of it amounts to even a hillock of beans, and your lack of trust in the McCanns is really of no consequence or interest to anyone (except perhaps other like minded souls who enjoy poring over these not-very-significant inconsistencies looking for evidence of guilt).  It's a strange hobby some might say.

Offline pegasus

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1024 on: February 12, 2016, 03:17:59 AM »
None of it amounts to even a hillock of beans, and your lack of trust in the McCanns is really of no consequence or interest to anyone (except perhaps other like minded souls who enjoy poring over these not-very-significant inconsistencies looking for evidence of guilt).  It's a strange hobby some might say.
A child could easily have wandered out to the street. This is why top professionals with extensive experience like MWT and O'Connor seriously consider the woke and wandered theory - it is not a hillock of beans

Offline misty

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1025 on: February 12, 2016, 03:33:35 AM »
A child could easily have wandered out to the street. This is why top professionals with extensive experience like MWT and O'Connor seriously consider the woke and wandered theory - it is not a hillock of beans

Do we know who was in 5F that week, please?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1026 on: February 12, 2016, 07:51:07 AM »
None of it amounts to even a hillock of beans, and your lack of trust in the McCanns is really of no consequence or interest to anyone (except perhaps other like minded souls who enjoy poring over these not-very-significant inconsistencies looking for evidence of guilt).  It's a strange hobby some might say.

Ignorance is bliss.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1027 on: February 12, 2016, 08:03:55 AM »
Ignorance is bliss.

delusion is also bliss

stephen25000

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1028 on: February 12, 2016, 08:14:11 AM »
Ignorance is bliss.

Indeed it is, it seems for some people.

Some people seem to think we should believe the mccanns story, even though their 'story' was changed.

Leaving the apartment locked during the day.

Then we first had, it was locked at night, which then became unlocked.

So as the events are mutually exclusive, one of those statements was true, the other a lie.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1029 on: February 12, 2016, 08:16:14 AM »
Indeed it is, it seems for some people.

Some people seem to think we should believe the mccanns story, even though their 'story' was changed.

Leaving the apartment locked during the day.

Then we first had, it was locked at night, which then became unlocked.

So as the events are mutually exclusive, one of those statements was true, the other a lie.

You are getting confused with your locked and unlocked,,,SY and the new PJ investigation do not think the McCanns are involved...you need to wake up

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1030 on: February 12, 2016, 08:16:49 AM »
Ignorance is bliss.
And casting doubt over every utterance and deed of Kate and Gerry McCann is what exactly? 

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1031 on: February 12, 2016, 08:19:15 AM »
A child could easily have wandered out to the street. This is why top professionals with extensive experience like MWT and O'Connor seriously consider the woke and wandered theory - it is not a hillock of beans
Does it appear to you that Operation Grange is seriously considering the "woke and wandered" theory?

stephen25000

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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1032 on: February 12, 2016, 08:23:11 AM »
And casting doubt over every utterance and deed of Kate and Gerry McCann is what exactly?

Well, do you believe every word they have uttered ?

You certainly seen to. £5%4%

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1033 on: February 12, 2016, 08:55:52 AM »
Well, do you believe every word they have uttered ?

You certainly seen to. £5%4%

kinda cult like  IMHO 8(0(*
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Offline Lace

Re: Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.
« Reply #1034 on: February 12, 2016, 09:15:16 AM »
The excuses given, I believe, varied. i've seen 'not wanting to disturb the children' by turning the door key in the front door, leaving the patio door open 'in case of fire' and leaving it open so 'Madeleine could find them'. As soon as Madeleine disappeared, however, she 'wouldn't dream of wandering out of the apartment'. Why leave the door open then? Surely not because they just couldn't be bothered walking round to the front like everyone else, this super-fit sporty couple?

Have you ever wondered that the McCann's meant in the case of a fire,  that people would be able to get in and rescue the children?

The patio was the quickest route to the children,  they say it only took a minute or two to get there.

With the steps leading up and two gates,   they must have thought that someone would be less likely to enter the apartment,  and of course how would anyone know the patio door was open unless they had been observing the family?