Mark Williams-Thomas suggests Madeleine woke, wandered and was abducted.

[pegasus]

(snip) Alternative explanations for the alerts were not thoroughly investigated. (snip)

Thorough checks were made and it was confirmed there had been no documented deaths in that apartment since it was built.

[pegasus]

Did PJ or SY ever ask that witness for the location of the manhole he saw with its cover removed?

[ShiningInLuz]

Thorough checks were made and it was confirmed there had been no documented deaths in that apartment since it was built.

How does one check thoroughly an apartment of the age of 5A? 

Wasn't the owner (coincidentally Mrs McCann) the sole owner because her husband had died?  I don't know where or when the death occurred, and to be honest, I don't really care.  I cannot envisage a check that could thoroughly rule out sources such as cross-contamination.

Ex-pat land is chokka with old ex-pats, so there is a regular source of dead people, hopefully infrequent.  And the local Portuguese and even visitors can shuttle off the mortal coil here.

[misty]

How does one check thoroughly an apartment of the age of 5A? 

Wasn't the owner (coincidentally Mrs McCann) the sole owner because her husband had died?  I don't know where or when the death occurred, and to be honest, I don't really care.  I cannot envisage a check that could thoroughly rule out sources such as cross-contamination.

Ex-pat land is chokka with old ex-pats, so there is a regular source of dead people, hopefully infrequent.  And the local Portuguese and even visitors can shuttle off the mortal coil here.

Where are the deaths of non-Portuguese residents recorded please, Shining? Is each death merely recorded in the records of the parish where it occurs?

[mercury]

How does one check thoroughly an apartment of the age of 5A? 

Wasn't the owner (coincidentally Mrs McCann) the sole owner because her husband had died?  I don't know where or when the death occurred, and to be honest, I don't really care.  I cannot envisage a check that could thoroughly rule out sources such as cross-contamination.

Ex-pat land is chokka with old ex-pats, so there is a regular source of dead people, hopefully infrequent.  And the local Portuguese and even visitors can shuttle off the mortal coil here.

Not wishing by any means to bring the dogs in for another ding dong, but IMO cross contamination as an explanation for only that apartment having it , the one a missing child was last seen, and no other places is stretching it (especially if you factor in your regular source of dead people)

PS Mr Mccann's obituary said he  died in Liverpool

[pegasus]

"... We now have to interview firemen, medical services personnel, previous tenants and employees of the Ocean Club to make sure that no death has taken place in this accommodation, which they confirm. So, we can conclude that the odour discovered is certainly that of ..."
Amaral chapter 16

[misty]

"... We now have to interview firemen, medical services personnel, previous tenants and employees of the Ocean Club to make sure that no death has taken place in this accommodation, which they confirm. So, we can conclude that the odour discovered is certainly that of ..."
Amaral chapter 16

OC was built in 1991 wasn't it? How many previous occupants of 5a did Team Amaral speak to?

[pegasus]

OC was built in 1991 wasn't it? How many previous occupants of 5a did Team Amaral speak to?

4 people (DJA DMA MWM RMM) bought 5A in 2001, later 2 were bought out, and 1 passed away (not in 5A) so by 2007 sole owner was RMM

[misty]

4 people (DJA DMA MWM RMM) bought 5A in 2001, later 2 were bought out, and 1 passed away (not in 5A) so by 2007 sole owner was RMM

What about the previous owners, though? Bear in mind the cadaver dogs did not indicate to any of the furniture in 5a.

[pegasus]

What about the previous owners, though? Bear in mind the cadaver dogs did not indicate to any of the furniture in 5a.

Owner 1994 to 2002 was grandmother of witness TS

[ShiningInLuz]

4 people (DJA DMA MWM RMM) bought 5A in 2001, later 2 were bought out, and 1 passed away (not in 5A) so by 2007 sole owner was RMM

Many thanks.

[G-Unit]

I wonder why Mark Williams-Thomas referred to 'legal restrictions' on what he could say when he appeared on 'This morning' therefore. He is still peddling woke and wandered, by the way, despite never explaining the open window.

[jassi]

I wonder why Mark Williams-Thomas referred to 'legal restrictions' on what he could say when he appeared on 'This morning' therefore. He is still peddling woke and wandered, by the way, despite never explaining the open window.

Perhaps he doesn't believe the open window, but can't says so for obvious reasons.

[G-Unit]

Perhaps he doesn't believe the open window, but can't says so for obvious reasons.

He described the patio door as 'unsecured' which was also a bit strange. He said Madeleine obviously knew her parents were out because she'd asked them that morning 'where were you when the twins cried'; (he is going with the first version, just the twins crying). He said it was very hot and there was no air-con (?) He thinks Madeleine, knowing they were at the Tapas, left the apartment through that 'unsecured' door and went looking for them.

[stephen25000]

New story in the Sun.

Mark Williams Thomas.

The wake and wandered theory again.

I wonder why now....