Portugal Supreme Court: The McCanns are not cleared in Maddie Case

[stephen25000]

Only in fascist states (or states with too many trappings of fascism) where there is a presumption of guilt.

Portugal is a democracy.

[ferryman]

Portugal is a democracy.

With (too many) trappings of fascism, as illustrated by the appeal-court ruling in the libel case
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[stephen25000]

With (too many) trappings of fascism, as illustrated by the appeal-court ruling in the libel case
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Unadulterated cobblers.

[ferryman]

I'm still waiting for someone to explain how a recon. -  which a blind man on a galloping horse can see  is humanly impossible for TEN people to carry out with anything like the degree of accuracy (re timing) that would be absolutely vital in this particular case for it to prove anything, can be achieved.   The fact that they can only give approximate times of their movements makes it an impossible task. 

And also how would it prove the McCanns innocence?  Their innocence of what?

Yep

Succinctly, a "reconstruction", particularly at this stage in proceedings, is an exercise in futility. 

[G-Unit]

With (too many) trappings of fascism, as illustrated by the appeal-court ruling in the libel case
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I don't think you understand exactly what fascism is. To make your point more understandable perhaps you could define fascism and then explain the fascist nature of the ruling you refer to.

[slartibartfast]

Only in fascist states (or states with too many trappings of fascism) where there is a presumption of guilt.

 No.

[Robittybob1]

I thought the word was 'insufficient' evidence, not 'no' evidence?

It could be one and the same, unless someone can say what evidence there is at all.  If you say because Jane changed her statement, that becomes evidence against the McCanns; does it?  Or if Jez Wilkins refuses to do a reconstruction, is that also evidence against the McCanns?  What Jane did or Jez did how can that have a bearing on the guilt of Kate and Gerry?

[The Singularity]

a term coined by conspiracy theorists I believe....says it all

This is in accurate, the phrase mainstream media is summarised here:

Mainstream media (MSM) is a term and abbreviation used to refer collectively to the various large mass news media that influence a large number of people, and both reflect and shape prevailing currents of thought.[1] The term is used to contrast with alternative media which may contain content with more dissenting thought as they do not reflect prevailing opinion.

The term is often used for large news conglomerates, including newspapers and broadcast media, that underwent successive mergers in many countries. The concentration of media ownership has raised concerns of a homogenization of viewpoints presented to news consumers. Consequently, the term mainstream media has been widely used in conversation and the blogosphere, often in oppositional, pejorative, or dismissive senses, in discussion of the mass media and media bias.

According to philosopher Noam Chomsky, media organizations with an elite audience such as CBS News and The New York Times, successful corporations with the assets necessary to engage in original reporting, set the tone for other smaller news organizations which lack resources by creating conversations that cascade down to smaller news organizations using the Associated Press and other means of aggregation. An elite mainstream sets the agenda and smaller organizations parrot it.[1]

[pathfinder73]

Yep

Succinctly, a "reconstruction", particularly at this stage in proceedings, is an exercise in futility.

A reconstruction would prove a false alibi. Time to move this case on and finish it.

[Robittybob1]

A reconstruction would prove a false alibi. Time to move this case on and finish it.

That sounds heartless.

[Angelo222]

MCCANNS 'NOT IN THE CLEAR'
Removal of Kate and Gerry’s ‘formal suspect’ status does not mean they are innocent in disappearance of daughter Madeleine McCann, judges say

Portugal’s Supreme Court has cast doubt over the parents of missing Madeleine once again - claiming there are 'serious concerns' in abduction theory
BY MATT WILKINSON
8th February 2017, 9:57 pm

KATE and Gerry McCann face fresh heartache after judges said they had not been cleared over daughter Madeleine’s disappearance.

Portugal’s Supreme Court has said the removal of their “arguido” — or formal suspect — status should not be “equated to proof of innocence”.

Kate and Gerry McCann - photo

The removal of Kate and Gerry McCann’s ‘formal suspect’ status does not mean they are innocent in their daughter’s disappearance, judges have said

The country’s most senior judges claimed the investigation into them was only shelved in 2008 because of a lack of evidence.

And they said there were “serious concerns” over the theory that Madeleine had been abducted from their Ocean Club apartment in Praia da Luz, in May 2007.

The comments were made in the Supreme Court’s 76-page dossier after handing victory to ex-detective Goncalo Amaral in an ongoing libel case last week.

Madeleine McCann - photo

Portugal’s top judges cast doubt over Madeleine McCann’s disappearance, claiming there are ‘serious concerns’ with abduction theory

The McCanns got Amaral’s book The Truth of the Lie banned and sued for libel after he alleged they faked Madeleine’s abduction to cover up the then three-year-old’s death.

But he is writing a second book about Madeleine’s disappearance — and the McCanns have said they will sue again if it is published in Britain.

Kate and Gerry, both 48, were made arguidos in September 2007. But their status was lifted in July 2008 when Portuguese police archived the investigation.

Kate and Gerry McCann - photo

The McCanns had The Truth of the Lie book banned after it alleged they faked their daughter’s abduction to cover up her death

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Madeleine McCann disappeared in Portugal in 2007 whilst on holiday with her family aged three

The Supreme Court is Portugal’s highest court but has no criminal authority. It published its ruling yesterday.

Judges added their job was not to decide if the McCanns bore any criminal responsibility over Madeleine’s disappearance.

Kate and Gerry McCann photo

Portugal’s judges claimed investigation into Kate and Gerry McCann was only shelved in 2008 due to a lack of evidence

And they said it would be wrong to draw any inferences about the couple’s guilt or innocence from their ruling.

Kate and Gerry, of Rothley, Leics, did not want to respond to the judges’ findings last night.

A spokesman said: “It’s entirely a matter for their lawyers.”

Lisa Riley recalls visit to Praia Da Luz to investigate Madeleine McCann's disappearance

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2819783/removal-of-kate-and-gerrys-formal-suspect-status-does-not-mean-they-are-innocent-in-disappearance-of-daughter-madeleine-mccann-judges-say/?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-_-20170208-_-803548825



So all these years, the supporters were wrong?

A year on from this headline and nothing has changed. The McCanns remain uncleared according to Portugal’s Supreme Court which has cast doubt over the parents of missing Madeleine claiming there are 'serious concerns' in abduction theory.

Portugal’s Supreme Court has said the removal of their “arguido” — or formal suspect — status should not be “equated to proof of innocence”.

So where do they go now?

[jassi]

Who is 'they'?
The McCanns have weathered any fallout from the Court's statement.
The Court will take no action.
People will still continue to deny that the McCanns have not been cleared of whatever the Court says they haven't been cleared of.

Life goes on as normal.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Rewriting the words to make it fit an agenda still won't work. LACK of evidence-LACK being the operative word. the words NO evidence have not been included for some reasons- perhaps that is because it was never used!

But the fact still remains they do not conclude  McCanns do not have a case to answer. Still under suspicion could be used...

[Mr Gray]

Rewriting the words to make it fit an agenda still won't work. LACK of evidence-LACK being the operative word. the words NO evidence have not been included for some reasons- perhaps that is because it was never used!

But the fact still remains they do not conclude  McCanns do not have a case to answer. Still under suspicion could be used...

No evidence was the phrase used in the archiving report...
Lack of evidence is the phrase that wasn't used

[slartibartfast]

No evidence was the phrase used in the archiving report...
Lack of evidence is the phrase that wasn't used

Please quote the relevant section.