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Libel trial in Lisbon - Day 7 Witness No 1

Ricardo Paiva (Portuguese Police Inspector) evidence.
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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2013, 01:13:22 PM »
Due to his language skills, PJ detective Ricardo Paiva acted as liaison officer and struck up quite a friendly relationship with the McCanns after the disappearance of Madeleine.  Things soured however at the time of the arguido interviews.

Kate later referred to Paiva as a "f.....g tosser, f.....g tosser" in her book Madeleine.



Portuguese Police Inspector Ricardo Paiva.
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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2013, 09:05:15 PM »
Ricardo Paiva (Police Inspector)


Libel trial McCann v Gonçalo Amaral - Day 7 Witness No1


(08.10.2013  10:10 am)

The Metro is on strike today. Everyone is present in Court except for the Judge.  The plaintiff’s lawyer, Dra Isabel Duarte, is not present but substituted by her assistant Dr Ricardo Alfonso, he sits in her chair.

The Judge eventually arrives, the session starts by considering several requests by the two parties. The first request (from the plaintiffs) concerns documents. The Judge reminds the Court that only documents which are relevant will be admitted in the process. G&P's lawyer, Dra Fatima Esteves, makes an objection on the basis that first three documents aren't legible. The Judge says they are. It seems the origin of these documents was with the Madeleine Fund site. The Judge eventually finds unjustified the presentation of these documents.

The Judge then refers to the late formal request by Gerald McCann and Gonçalo Amaral to take the stand to which now is added a similar request by Kate McCann. The Judge says that the Court will decide about the relevance or not of these requests, when the presentation of the matter of proof indicated by the parties is concluded.

Now follows a request by Gonçalo Amaral's lawyer, Dr Santos de Oliveira, regarding an Application dated 27th September 2013 concerning the substitution of two witnesses. The Judge observes that this request, not being grounded as it should, according to the Law, can't be conceded.

SO then reads an extended statement relating the technical and financial difficulty which his client is experiencing in researching information which is available concerning the effect on the McCanns of the book publication. He states that due to this complex research it was only now that GA found the complete version of an interview by the McCanns in the weekly Expresso dated 6th  September 2008 (online on the 7th) entitled Gonçalo Amaral é uma vergonha ("GA is a shame"), i.e a month and a half after the publication of the book.
 
Link to Expresso article in English> http://www.mccannfiles.com/id163.html



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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2013, 03:14:46 PM »
Libel trial - Day 7 Witness No 2

Victor Tavares de Almeida  (Police Chief Inspector)





Portuguese Police Chief Inspector Victor Tavares de Almeida.



Libel trial McCann v Gonçalo Amaral - Day 7 Witness No 2


(08.10.2013, 11:45am). There are some video-link connection problems, a pause is decided.  Once Victor Tavares de Almeida appears on the screen, the lawyers return to the Court and the trial commences at 11:55am.

The Judge asks the witness if he is a Chief Inspector.
TA says he is.

The Judge asks where he works and for how long he has been there.
TA says he has worked in the DIC (Department of Criminal Investigation) at Portimão since January 2007.
 
The Judge presents the reason for this trial and asks if the witness is aware of it.
TA says he knows exactly.

The Judge asks if the witness participated in the investigation.
TA says he started to work on the case two days after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann until the end of September 2007.
 
The Judge – Hierarchically, were you subordinated to Gonçalo Amaral?
TA said that Gonçalo Amaral was the Coordinator and he was under him.

The Judge – Were you Number 2?
TA says it can be said so.

The Judge asks whether, independently of professional ties, is there a personal friendship between him and Gonçalo Amaral.
TA said that is correct.

The Judge wants to know if the relationship with the McCanns was only professional.
TA says the unique relationship he had was exactly that, professional.


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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2013, 05:45:48 PM »
Libel trial - Day 7 Witness No 3

Luis Neves (Director National anti Terrorism Unit)





Libel trial McCann v Gonçalo Amaral - Day 7 Witness No 3


The testimony as it happened...

(08.10.2013, 12:01pm) Luis Neves, former Coordinator of the DCCB (Direcção Central de Combate ao Banditismo), now directs the UNCT (Unidade Nacional de Combate ao Terrorismo), the PJ unit that fights violent criminality.

The Judge asks the witness if he intervened in the criminal process related to Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
LN says he did, but not directly. He explains that, after some days, the then National Director of the PJ, Alipio Ribeiro, asked him to send officers of his unit who were specialised in cases of abduction and hostage. He adds that his team had collaborated in the Joana Cipriano murder case.

The Judge – What do you mean by "indirectly"?
LN says that, though he went to the Algarve a few times to meet Guilhermino Encarnação, then Director of the PJ in Faro, and Gonçalo Amaral, the operations were performed by Portimão police officers under the direction of his team.

The Judge asks if the witness' relations with Gonçalo Amaral are only professional or if there is a personal relationship.
LN says there's friendship between them.

The Judge asks if the witness had a relationship with the McCanns.
LN remembers he saw them at a meeting organized by Guilhermino Encarnação in the British Consulate in Portimão concerning diligences to perform on sightings.


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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2013, 06:28:20 PM »
Libel trial - Day 7 Witness No 4

Manuel Catarino (Editor in Chief, Correio da Manhã)




Goncalo Amaral (left) with Manuel Catarino outside the Palace of Justice, Lisbon.



Libel trial McCann v Gonçalo Amaral - Day 7 Witness No 4


The testimony as it happened...

(08.10.2013, 2:25pm) Manuel Catarino is Editor in Chief of the Portuguese daily, the Morning Mail (Correio da Manhã) and a journalist familiar with criminal processes. He authored "A culpa dos McCann” ("The guilt of the McCanns") with a preface by Francisco Moita Flores, that contains an interview by the criminologist José Manuel Anes, who reviewed the PJ investigation.

The Judge asks whether the witness knows what this trial is about.
MC replies that he was involved in various journalistic works on this issue.

The Judge asks him when.
MC  in 2008.

The Judge asks if the witness' relations with Gonçalo Amaral are only professional or if they are friends.
MC says they are professional, but he knows Gonçalo Amaral personally.

The Judge asks whether MC knows the McCanns.
MC says "no".


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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2013, 06:55:02 PM »
 8((()*/ Thanks guys! Thanks Anne ?{)(**

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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2013, 07:29:06 PM »
Thanks John and Anne always.....
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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2013, 08:17:35 PM »
Many thanks for bringing yet another witness statement.

Think this is the second time I have read the judge's somewhat irritation about the front cover - which implies unique relations - sounds like if the McCanns DON'T win, the judge might sue under the Trades description Act ;) or merely is making the point, that they are no deviations from the original official file.


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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2013, 10:47:13 PM »
Many thanks for bringing yet another witness statement.

Think this is the second time I have read the judge's somewhat irritation about the front cover - which implies unique relations - sounds like if the McCanns DON'T win, the judge might sue under the Trades description Act ;) or merely is making the point, that they are no deviations from the original official file.
I'm glad you're reading this, Meadow, and I'm very keen to know your thoughts about all this.
I think it's the first time the judge mentioned the cover. Likely this was at the back of her mind, ready to be launched unexpectedly. She observed that Ricardo Paiva wouldn't come out of his "like the report + opinion" argument and manage to create a real tension, though RP was only on a screen, since you couldn't really decide if she was kidding or serious. RP was  unbalanced in a nutshell by the suggestion of misleading publicity ! He did exactly what the judge expected him to do : nothing, no word, no argument ! Then she concluded magnificently (and I got a kick) !

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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2013, 08:12:04 AM »
Thanks Anne, I'm sure I read it twice, that is in two places.  Did some of the day 7 witness statement get attached to day 6 thread?  and have now be reshuffled.   Anyway, what an amazing, off the cuff remark from the judge.  Not only had GA kept to the official line, it was merely the 'splash' on the front cover that hinted and revelations beyond the official closing file.

My take of events so far, show the judge has a mind set of distinguishing between the FACT of law what is libel,  a printed lie and the emotions people suffer from the perception of the contents of the book. Or as it is becoming increasingly clear misconception of closing official file by the McCanns\advisers, making the book more understandable, thus explains\reinforces the thesis.

The thing that so far most amazing me and now with hindsight is the McCanns have received across the board based on their innocence (none involvement of any crime) they have been given erroneous advice.

What goes on here in the UK is very ill timed, the MET should have known better to have got involved in these shenanigans, if we are to believe they are the top of their league in intelligence gathering.  If they wish to have staged a Crimewatch Programme, that was filmed six months ago, why wait until now. Particularly as they are on Portuguese soil with rogatory letters & other supported investigations.

Not only was this bad etiquette to all involved it also shows a very negative MET's communication with the Portuguese police, culture and people.  But it has also taken away a positive step to solving the case of Madeleine's disappearance by pitching two countries against one another.  In fact one wonders where the FO is in all this considering their early involvement.

The judge is running a good tight ship and she doesn't need the distractions now of additional witnesses jumping around or trying to change direction.  But one supports and understands GA hand almost being forced to take the stand (give witness) if they do.

Again, with thanks Ann & John

Added
All anyone wants then and now is that Madeleine's disappearance is explained.  I have always considered from any scenario that she is dead, that she never saw the rising sun on the 4th, and let this little one be allowed to RIP

Added ..... it's been puzzling me all day, where did I read it before and I know it wasn't on this thread, since I'm sure this thread 7 didn't exist.
 
''Under questioning by the Judge as to the claim of 'new revelations' on the cover of the book, Ricardo Paiva mumbles and doesn't answer.  The Judge retorts, shall I have to conclude then that what's on the cover is misleading publicity?''

It was John's provisional post, awaiting correction\validation  in the 'grey' thread.

So I stand corrected it has been only once the judge picked up and commented on the front cover.
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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2013, 05:25:24 PM »
Or as it is becoming increasingly clear misconception of closing official file by the McCanns\advisers, making the book more understandable, thus explains\reinforces the thesis.
The thing that so far most amazing me and now with hindsight is the McCanns have received across the board based on their innocence (none involvement of any crime) they have been given erroneous advice.
Yes, I think you make a relevant point here. The McCanns seem not to have got a right knowledge of the AG report. They were told some isolated parts that led to a misconception. As Emma Loach stated, it was much easier and nicer to read the book, so the AG report was bypassed. Therefore their global vision of the situation was twisted. I would never have thought their lawyer would be so ignorant of the files and the great amount of documents that time has generated, as she was the one who constituted and deposited the accusation process

What goes on here in the UK is very ill timed, the MET should have known better to have got involved in these shenanigans, if we are to believe they are the top of their league in intelligence gathering.  If they wish to have staged a Crimewatch Programme, that was filmed six months ago, why wait until now. Particularly as they are on Portuguese soil with rogatory letters & other supported investigations.
Not only was this bad etiquette to all involved it also shows a very negative MET's communication with the Portuguese police, culture and people.  But it has also taken away a positive step to solving the case of Madeleine's disappearance by pitching two countries against one another.  In fact one wonders where the FO is in all this considering their early involvement.
It seems they've read this post, Meadow, now they admit to be working comprehensively on two separate lines. SY has more than 2 thousands calls to investigate and about 40 persons of interest to interview in about as many countries. The PJ will limit themselves to scrutinize paedophiles in the Algarve which sounds like a useful task anyway.


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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2013, 07:57:54 PM »
Libel trial Day 7 Witness No 5

Francisco Moita Flores (Writer and former PJ Inspector)





Libel trial McCann v Gonçalo Amaral - Day 7 Witness No 5


The testimony as it happened...

(08.10.2013, 2:45pm}
 
Francisco Moita Flores is a retired Polícia Judiciária (PJ) Inspector, he is also a writer. 

He is the only witness who has greeted the public before sitting in the witness chair.  This was repeated at the end of the session when the witness turned towards the public and again acknowledged them with a smile and a slight nod.

The Judge asks the witness what sort of contact he has with the McCann process.
MF says he has known Gonçalo Amaral since the time they were both in the PJ. He says they are more or less contemporaneous; although GA is younger than him.

The Judge asks whether apart from professional relations they are friends.
MF says they know each other, he says they never went to each other's home.

The Judge asks if the witness knows the McCanns.
MF says "no".

The Judge asks MF if he wrote a book on this case.
MF says he didn't, but commented on the case many times, particularly on TV.

The Judge – Have you read the book?
MF says he did.

The Judge – Have you watched the documentary?
MF says he didn't.

The Judge – Then you were a commentator on TV and also wrote chronicles?
MF answers "yes".


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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2013, 01:45:26 PM »
Moita Flores didn't mince his words when he referred to a fabricated abduction and insisted that it was technically, humanly impossible to have taken Madeleine out of the bedroom window.  "The witness concludes affirming that all the hypotheses are possible, except for the abduction through that window."

So who did open that shutter and that window or was the second opening/closing staged just like the fabricated abduction??
« Last Edit: October 25, 2013, 01:49:49 PM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

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Re: McCann v Gonçalo Amaral Libel Trial in Lisbon - Day 7 (5 witnesses)
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2013, 11:08:48 AM »
Moita Flores didn't mince his words when he referred to a fabricated abduction and insisted that it was technically, humanly impossible to have taken Madeleine out of the bedroom window.  "The witness concludes affirming that all the hypotheses are possible, except for the abduction through that window."

So who did open that shutter and that window or was the second opening/closing staged just like the fabricated abduction??

Mrs McCann fingerprints were found on the window in a way that points to an opening movement... >@@(*&)