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Offline Montclair

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3135 on: September 22, 2015, 11:32:51 AM »
It's interesting.

They've got £47,000

If Amaral's lawyer charges £200 an hour £40,000 would buy 200 hours of his time (roughly 8 24-hour days).

How much time is needed to prepare a defence that consists of: the McCanns should have got less than they got cos they weren't with Madeleine when she was abducted?

Do you have any idea what is in Gonçalo Amaral's appeal? Why do you assume that he is only contesting the amount awarded?

Offline Brietta

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3136 on: September 22, 2015, 11:33:32 AM »
What you should say is eyebrows raised by mccann supporters.

So how are donations to the mccann fund doing these days ?

Madeleine's Fund is dedicated to looking for Madeleine ... remember her?  the missing child.

At the moment there is no requirement for her parents to raise money for that ... as the people who have the legal right and the legal powers to do that are currently so doing.

Why do you persist in asking such an unnecessary question ... what point are you trying to make?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3137 on: September 22, 2015, 11:34:36 AM »
The judge wasn't that smart. According to many people in the legal system, her points are quite easy to appeal. Let's just wait and see.

are these the same people who were saying that amaral had won his case and the McCanns wouldn't get a penny

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3138 on: September 22, 2015, 11:36:35 AM »
Yes that's the answer - in order to deceive people into thinking someone has donated £8K, a deluded person has donated £8K. A cunning plan if ever there was one.
It's not very cunning, most people with sense can see through it.  You withdraw money from the fund you control and then you channel it back into the fund again - recycling donations to make it look like you have more support than you actually do. 

stephen25000

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3139 on: September 22, 2015, 11:36:54 AM »
Madeleine's Fund is dedicated to looking for Madeleine ... remember her?  the missing child.

At the moment there is no requirement for her parents to raise money for that ... as the people who have the legal right and the legal powers to do that are currently so doing.

Why do you persist in asking such an unnecessary question ... what point are you trying to make?

Whose actions resulted in her going missing  ?


 and trying giving an accurate answer, since the cause of her 'disappearance' remains unresolved no matter how many times you cry abduction.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2015, 11:39:19 AM by stephen25000 »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3140 on: September 22, 2015, 11:37:34 AM »
Do you have any idea what is in Gonçalo Amaral's appeal? Why do you assume that he is only contesting the amount awarded?

my reason because in his statement he said he was contesting the sentence rather than the judgement...perhaps he is just sloppy with his words...who knows

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3141 on: September 22, 2015, 11:37:45 AM »
It's interesting.

They've got £47,000

If Amaral's lawyer charges £200 an hour £40,000 would buy 200 hours of his time (roughly 8 24-hour days).

How much time is needed to prepare a defence that consists of: the McCanns should have got less than they got cos they weren't with Madeleine when she was abducted?
Why aren't these professional lawyer types who support Ammy giving him their time for free rather than coughing up £8k to pay some other lawyer type...?

Offline Brietta

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3142 on: September 22, 2015, 11:38:37 AM »
Yes that's the answer - in order to deceive people into thinking someone has donated £8K, a deluded person has donated £8K. A cunning plan if ever there was one.

Even you must admit, Pegasus, all such suspicions could easily be allayed by independent auditing and publication of the accounts.

If all is above board and transparent ... there can be no valid objection to that??????
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3143 on: September 22, 2015, 11:38:52 AM »
Madeleine's Fund is dedicated to looking for Madeleine ... remember her?  the missing child.

At the moment there is no requirement for her parents to raise money for that ... as the people who have the legal right and the legal powers to do that are currently so doing.

Why do you persist in asking such an unnecessary question ... what point are you trying to make?

Quite a strange post when talking about the trial, thinking about the funding of the McCann's legal costs?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3144 on: September 22, 2015, 11:42:22 AM »
June 11 ....And I am sure nobody will have any objection if the gofundme total raised increases to £40K ...(snip)
Tick.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3145 on: September 22, 2015, 11:42:58 AM »
Quite a strange post when talking about the trial, thinking about the funding of the McCann's legal costs?

the McCanns have put a lot of money themselves into the fund...enough to cover the legal cost several times over. Wasn't their latest payment from the Times given straight to charity

Offline Brietta

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3146 on: September 22, 2015, 11:45:55 AM »
Whose actions resulted in her going missing  ?


 and trying giving an accurate answer, since the cause of her 'disappearance' remains unresolved no matter how many times you cry abduction.

Are you yet again ignoring the criminal actions of the person who abducted Madeleine McCann in your eagerness to castigate her parents?

It is attitudes such as that which have led to Mr Amaral's current appeal against his failed defence of the libels perpetrated against the Drs McCann ... after the long legal route to this point.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3147 on: September 22, 2015, 11:49:43 AM »
Why aren't these professional lawyer types who support Ammy giving him their time for free rather than coughing up £8k to pay some other lawyer type...?

Good question, Alfred.

Mr Amaral's popularity in Portugal apparently doesn't stretch to that extent ... else why the constant appeals for funding over the years and the alleged fall outs and parting of the ways for alleged non-payment from time to time.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3148 on: September 22, 2015, 11:53:28 AM »
Are you yet again ignoring the criminal actions of the person who abducted Madeleine McCann in your eagerness to castigate her parents?

It is attitudes such as that which have led to Mr Amaral's current appeal against his failed defence of the libels perpetrated against the Drs McCann ... after the long legal route to this point.


Dear, dear, dear.

When has it proven there was an abduction ?

Keep to the facts.

Not your mantra.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2015, 11:56:08 AM by stephen25000 »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3149 on: September 22, 2015, 11:53:40 AM »
Simply amazing to see that the fund is now at £ 47.000,00!!! Two donations of £ 4.000,00 each were made this morning.

The comment for the first donation is as follows:

De um grupo anónimo de funcionários de empresas e do meio legal que estão estupefactos com o que aconteceu. Portugal e a Grã-Bretanha são velhos aliados, mas os McCann e os tablóides britânicos tentaram separar-nos. Todos vemos perfeitamente aquilo que estão a tentar fazer, congelando os bens do Dr Amaral para o impedir de se defender, enquanto usam os milhões que lhes foram doados pelo público para o processar. Isto não é justiça. Isto está errado. Os McCann perderam 5 das suas 7 pretensões, mas a imprensa britânica não o reportou, nem tão-pouco reportou as palavras duras utilizadas pela juíza em relação às suas supostas 'provas'. Têm de pagar 60% das custas, mas a imprensa britânica não o reportou. Esta pequena doação destina-se a assegurar que este venenoso acto de ódio não seja bem sucedido. Acreditamos que um dia a verdade será contada, embora seja improvável que sejam os pais a fazê-lo.


Translation:

From a group of company workers and of the legal system who are stupefied with what has happened. Portugal and Great Britain are old allies, but the McCanns and the British tabloids have tried to separate us. We all see perfectly what they are trying to do, freezing Dr. Amaral's assets in order to keep him from defending himself, while they use the millions that were donated by the public to sue him. This is not justice. This is wrong. The McCanns lost 5 of their 7 claims, but the British press hasn't reported it, neither did they report the harsh words used by the judge in relation to their presumed "proof". They must pay 60% of the costs, but the British press has not reported it. This small donation is to ensure that this venomous act of hate will not succeed. We believe that one day the truth will be told, although it will be improbable that it will be the parents who will do it.

this statement does not sound as though it comes from a group of legal workers but more like someone who has been following the case for some time...I'm surprised they missed out "dogs don't lie"