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Offline G-Unit

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3765 on: November 30, 2015, 08:08:41 PM »
I am puzzled too, about who Gunit apparently "knows" that Kate didn't complete her GP training. 

Given that she was listed on the GP Register when it was introduced.

Locum GP's are required to be on the GP's register. If you can find a three year opportunity for studying between Kate leaving her job as an anesthetist and April 2007 be my guest. Janet Kennedy said she didn't return to work after having Madeleine, then they had a year in Amsterdam, then she had a year off after having the twins in February 2005.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANNET-KENNEDY.htm

Specialist training in general practice - this stage takes around three years to complete and is split between supervised training in a GP practice and working in a hospital. You can specialise in a number of medical fields, including general medicine, paediatrics, cardiology and palliative medicine. - See more at: https://nationalcareersservice.direct.gov.uk/advice/planning/jobprofiles/Pages/doctor-gp.aspx#sthash.ZYHdYj9O.dpuf

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3766 on: November 30, 2015, 08:12:49 PM »
Locum GP's are required to be on the GP's register. If you can find a three year opportunity for studying between Kate leaving her job as an anesthetist and April 2007 be my guest. Janet Kennedy said she didn't return to work after having Madeleine, then they had a year in Amsterdam, then she had a year off after having the twins in February 2005.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANNET-KENNEDY.htm

Specialist training in general practice - this stage takes around three years to complete and is split between supervised training in a GP practice and working in a hospital. You can specialise in a number of medical fields, including general medicine, paediatrics, cardiology and palliative medicine. - See more at: https://nationalcareersservice.direct.gov.uk/advice/planning/jobprofiles/Pages/doctor-gp.aspx#sthash.ZYHdYj9O.dpuf

why is any of this important

Offline G-Unit

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3767 on: November 30, 2015, 09:20:32 PM »
why is any of this important

None of your business!

Sorry, mods, but that's what he tends to say to me.
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Offline mercury

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3768 on: November 30, 2015, 09:28:12 PM »
None of your business!

Sorry, mods, but that's what he tends to say to me.

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I wouldnt worry about the mods, they have Davels number, not yours...he breaks the rules alot of the time, you do not


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3769 on: November 30, 2015, 09:44:36 PM »
None of your business!

Sorry, mods, but that's what he tends to say to me.

so its not important

Offline mercury

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3770 on: November 30, 2015, 09:51:09 PM »
so its not important

No, its none of your business and you dont have any license whatsoever to change posters posts meanings

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3771 on: November 30, 2015, 10:05:07 PM »
Locum GP's are required to be on the GP's register. If you can find a three year opportunity for studying between Kate leaving her job as an anesthetist and April 2007 be my guest. Janet Kennedy said she didn't return to work after having Madeleine, then they had a year in Amsterdam, then she had a year off after having the twins in February 2005.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANNET-KENNEDY.htm

Specialist training in general practice - this stage takes around three years to complete and is split between supervised training in a GP practice and working in a hospital. You can specialise in a number of medical fields, including general medicine, paediatrics, cardiology and palliative medicine. - See more at: https://nationalcareersservice.direct.gov.uk/advice/planning/jobprofiles/Pages/doctor-gp.aspx#sthash.ZYHdYj9O.dpuf

so you cant think of a reason why this is important...doesn't surprise me at all

Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3772 on: December 01, 2015, 01:17:58 AM »
(snip)... The issue being judged was :
 “The 3rd claimant [MM] was deprived of the just and appropriate investigation of her disappearance”. For which damages in the sum of five hundred thousand Euro were sought.
The ruling was:
“It was not proven that because of the defendant Goncalo Amaral's statements in the book, the documentary and the interview with the Correio da Manha, the Judicial Police had ceased to collect information and to investigate the disappearance of Madeleine McCann”
The consequence was:
“To fully dismiss the requests, made in the same action, by the claimants M... MCCANN, S... MCCANN and A... MCCANN against the defendant G... AMARAL and of those claims acquit the defendant”.
 ...(snip)
Surely you cannot be claiming that those legal proceedings which some supposedly expert paid lawyers initiated on behalf of 3 minors all completely failed?

Offline misty

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3773 on: December 01, 2015, 01:47:49 AM »
Surely you cannot be claiming that those legal proceedings which some supposedly expert paid lawyers initiated on behalf of 3 minors all completely failed?

I wonder what the judge would have decided about the search if that part of the writ had been dealt with back in 2010?
The book was banned.
The book was unbanned.
The book was banned again.
The investigation wasn't proven to be harmed by the book.
Award the parents of the libellous/non-libellous book record damages.
Civil justice -Portuguese style. It's akin to a soap opera.

Had the McCanns not had substantial funds/influence at their disposal, the search for Madeleine would have completely ceased well before the archiving process.
The book, in hindsight, actually did the McCanns a favour. It enabled the world to see what a pig's ear Amaral & his team had made of the original PJ investigation & why the case against the McCanns was based on lies & misrepresentations. It was a massive own goal - unless its true purpose was to prevent any case reaching trial should the perpetrator(s) ever be determined.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2015, 02:11:37 AM by misty »

stephen25000

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3774 on: December 01, 2015, 07:32:25 AM »
I wonder what the judge would have decided about the search if that part of the writ had been dealt with back in 2010?
The book was banned.
The book was unbanned.
The book was banned again.
The investigation wasn't proven to be harmed by the book.
Award the parents of the libellous/non-libellous book record damages.
Civil justice -Portuguese style. It's akin to a soap opera.

Had the McCanns not had substantial funds/influence at their disposal, the search for Madeleine would have completely ceased well before the archiving process.
The book, in hindsight, actually did the McCanns a favour. It enabled the world to see what a pig's ear Amaral & his team had made of the original PJ investigation & why the case against the McCanns was based on lies & misrepresentations. It was a massive own goal - unless its true purpose was to prevent any case reaching trial should the perpetrator(s) ever be determined.

How wrong can you get.

The investigation was far from perfect, just as the SY one is, in the latter even less so, as it has only looked at avenue.

More people are now aware that the abduction lacks credence, as there is no evidence to back it up.

The succession of 'images' of abductors has become increasingly laughable.

People have seen the mccanns employ incompetents to 'search' for them.

They have also seen a large amount of tax payers money go down the drain.

They have also seen the mccanns claiming leaving children by themselves as exhibiting 'responsible parenting skills'.

What is truly laughable is the mccanns story, their changing and inconsistent accounts, and their pursuit of revenge and money which is quite sickening.

IMHO of couirse.

ferryman

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3775 on: December 01, 2015, 08:18:03 AM »
I wonder what the judge would have decided about the search if that part of the writ had been dealt with back in 2010?
The book was banned.
The book was unbanned.
The book was banned again.
The investigation wasn't proven to be harmed by the book.
Award the parents of the libellous/non-libellous book record damages.
Civil justice -Portuguese style. It's akin to a soap opera.

Had the McCanns not had substantial funds/influence at their disposal, the search for Madeleine would have completely ceased well before the archiving process.
The book, in hindsight, actually did the McCanns a favour. It enabled the world to see what a pig's ear Amaral & his team had made of the original PJ investigation & why the case against the McCanns was based on lies & misrepresentations. It was a massive own goal - unless its true purpose was to prevent any case reaching trial should the perpetrator(s) ever be determined.

That's an interesting perspective.

I'm not sure I entirely agree.

Certainly, those (such as you and me) who read the book objectively and properly took away that impression.

Trouble is, I suspect those who simply read the book and believed were (probably) in the majority -- of a huge audience. 

Offline G-Unit

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3776 on: December 01, 2015, 08:54:34 AM »
That's an interesting perspective.

I'm not sure I entirely agree.

Certainly, those (such as you and me) who read the book objectively and properly took away that impression.

Trouble is, I suspect those who simply read the book and believed were (probably) in the majority -- of a huge audience.

You don't seem to realise that Amaral's book wasn't significant to many. I was able to spot the McCann's strange reactions and utterances for myself, for example. Even if the book had never been written people would still not believe their story. Even if they win this appeal people will not believe their story.
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ferryman

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3777 on: December 01, 2015, 09:04:31 AM »
You don't seem to realise that Amaral's book wasn't significant to many. I was able to spot the McCann's strange reactions and utterances for myself, for example. Even if the book had never been written people would still not believe their story. Even if they win this appeal people will not believe their story.

They didn't tell a 'story'. 

They told the truth.

Not (necessarily) the unvarnished truth, because memory is fallible, and their recollection of a complex and fast-moving sequence of events (necessarily and inevitably) is not going to be perfect. 

More, that disparity and imperfection (in recollection of events) will be magnified by translations and re-translations, and by statements taken in reported, rather than verbatim, form ....

But the truth to the best of their ability and the best of their recollection.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3778 on: December 01, 2015, 09:44:39 AM »
Surely you cannot be claiming that those legal proceedings which some supposedly expert paid lawyers initiated on behalf of 3 minors all completely failed?

Of course not!
I am only copying and pasting from the judgement details displayed on this very forum. It's up to individuals to bend it to suit their own argument  8(>((
Mind you the terms "dismiss the request" and "acquit the defendant" don't leave much room for manouvre.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #3779 on: December 01, 2015, 09:52:13 AM »
I wonder what the judge would have decided about the search if that part of the writ had been dealt with back in 2010?
The book was banned.
The book was unbanned.
The book was banned again.
The investigation wasn't proven to be harmed by the book.
Award the parents of the libellous/non-libellous book record damages.
Civil justice -Portuguese style. It's akin to a soap opera.

Had the McCanns not had substantial funds/influence at their disposal, the search for Madeleine would have completely ceased well before the archiving process.
The book, in hindsight, actually did the McCanns a favour. It enabled the world to see what a pig's ear Amaral & his team had made of the original PJ investigation & why the case against the McCanns was based on lies & misrepresentations. It was a massive own goal - unless its true purpose was to prevent any case reaching trial should the perpetrator(s) ever be determined.

It wasn't dealt with in 2010 so why bother wondering ?
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