Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.

[Mr Gray]

The McCanns were entitled to the presumption of innocence when they had not been tried and found guilty...the judgement was clear on that....in the very unlikely situation that the McCanns were subsequently found guilty...at the time amaral made his comments they were entitled to be presumed innocent

[Alfred R Jones]

The McCanns were entitled to the presumption of innocence when they had not been tried and found guilty...the judgement was clear on that....in the very unlikely situation that the McCanns were subsequently found guilty...at the time amaral made his comments they were entitled to be presumed innocent

Indeed.  Surely Amaral's actions over the last few years have ensured that in such an event of the McCanns being charged with a crime in Portugal they could never expect a fair trial anyway.

[John]

Of course.  (Touches nose knowingly)

Come off it john.  This isn't the first time you've tried the secret squirrel stuff.

Actually much of it isn't secret and has been discussed at length previously.  Let's just say Amaral isn't the only one who has questions to answer.

[John]

The McCanns were entitled to the presumption of innocence when they had not been tried and found guilty...the judgement was clear on that....in the very unlikely situation that the McCanns were subsequently found guilty...at the time amaral made his comments they were entitled to be presumed innocent

Didn't the Attorney General state that they had lost the opportunity to establish (confirmar) that innocence?

[Mr Gray]

Actually much of it isn't secret and has been discussed at length previously.  Let's just say Amaral isn't the only one who has questions to answer.

lets just say that is just your opinion

[Mr Gray]

Didn't the Attorney General state that they had lost the opportunity to establish (confirmar) that innocence?

they are under no obligation to do that and as I have pointed out before...it would be basically impossible ....Barry George after two full trials has been unable to confirm his innocence...it was  a ridiculous suggestion

[Alfred R Jones]

Didn't the Attorney General state that they had lost the opportunity to establish (confirmar) that innocence?

Really John, how many times has this been gone over and explained?!

[Jean-Pierre]

The stuff about an appeal to the ECHR is straight out of the Bennett legal expertise.  He tried that in his own case. 

The ECHR has made it clear that it is not to be seen as a sort of super court of appeal for disgruntled litigants and amaral simply does not have a case.  Sorry.

[Mr Gray]

The stuff about an appeal to the ECHR is straight out of the Bennett legal expertise.  He tried that in his own case. 

The ECHR has made it clear that it is not to be seen as a sort of super court of appeal for disgruntled litigants and amaral simply does not have a case.  Sorry.

precisely

[ferryman]

Didn't the Attorney General state that they had lost the opportunity to establish (confirmar) that innocence?

demonstrate sounds much more plausible to me.

I am more than willing to give the prosecutors benefit of doubt that they are not fascist, particularly in light of what else they say in their report, and of what else has come to light from files we read on line, many given via the agency of proven fraudster Levy.

The files are a useful guide, but they are no more than that.

[Mr Gray]

For the benefit of angelo...

In this case, the claimants Kate and Gerald MacCann never ceased to benefit from this presumption of innocence and from the imperative of behaviour that this presumption places on national judicial and justice authorities and all the civil servants and agents.

This is obviously from the judgement which made  a major point that amaral had a responsibility as a justice authority agent to respect the presumption of innocence

[John]

demonstrate sounds much more plausible to me.

I am more than willing to give the prosecutors benefit of doubt that they are not fascist, particularly in light of what else they say in their report, and of what else has come to light from files we read on line, many given via the agency of proven fraudster Levy.

The files are a useful guide, but they are no more than that.

Yes, demonstrate is an excellent translation, I will go with that.

[John]

For the benefit of angelo...

In this case, the claimants Kate and Gerald MacCann never ceased to benefit from this presumption of innocence and from the imperative of behaviour that this presumption places on national judicial and justice authorities and all the civil servants and agents.

This is obviously from the judgement which made  a major point that amaral had a responsibility as a justice authority agent to respect the presumption of innocence

The presumption of innocence and being technically innocent are probably mutually exclusive.

[Mr Gray]

The presumption of innocence and being technically innocent are probably mutually exclusive.

that would imply that all accused are guilty...which fits in well with the amaral school of justice

[pathfinder73]

that would imply that all accused are guilty...which fits in well with the amaral school of justice

So you co-operate and answer police questions to prove your innocent. By not answering questions don't expect to be cleared as suspects in an unsolved case. If you are not helping but hindering the police investigation then it's stupid to think otherwise.

1. On May 3 2007, around 22:00, when you entered the apartment, what did you see? What did you do? Where did you look? What did you touch?