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stephen25000

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4365 on: February 09, 2016, 10:15:39 AM »
Lawyers generally say what their clients pay them to say.

Indeed.

Hardly likely to say they are guilty of crime in all neglect leading global to the loss of a child.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4366 on: February 09, 2016, 11:00:50 AM »
It was an English barrister (specialising in family law) who said the McCanns actions were 'within bounds of responsible parenting'.

But then what do barristers who specialise in family law know ...

Do you have his/her name and the precise quotation ?
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stephen25000

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4367 on: February 09, 2016, 11:08:34 AM »
Do you have his/her name and the precise quotation ?

Any connection to Carter-Ruck I wonder ? &%+((£

Offline jassi

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4368 on: February 09, 2016, 11:14:17 AM »
Probably not. They are more into libel and reputation management.

It might even have been a 'spokesman' saying what a lawyer said, rather than the lawyer himself
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4369 on: February 09, 2016, 11:16:32 AM »
Probably not. They are more into libel and reputation management.

It might even have been a 'spokesman' saying what a lawyer said, rather than the lawyer himself

It could well be Jassi.

I hardly think any Barrister would say it's perfectly OK to go out drinking, and leave 3 children under the age of 4 by themselves.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4370 on: February 09, 2016, 11:38:51 AM »
Do you have his/her name and the precise quotation ?
The incident is covered on p124 of Kate's book.   The barrister is not named, but from wearing a bow tie, braces and a Panama hat, I assume the barrister is male.  His expertise is not covered.  There was also a paralegal from the International Family Law Group.  AFAIK, barristers do not work within such groups, but it could be the barrister got hoiked in as IFLG had used his services before.

The 'well within the bounds of reasonable parenting' is attributed to said barrister by Kate in her book.

There is nothing to indicate whether he was applying English law or Portuguese law.  As we know, the McCanns were not charged with negligence in either Portugal or England.
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4371 on: February 09, 2016, 11:55:16 AM »


It was not up to Harrison or Grime to say Eddie scented death or not.

It is the job of the forensic department to evaluate any evidence collected.
Then why did grime give an opinion...and why did the pj ask him if the alerts were to cadaver
And tell us what the forensic dept said
« Last Edit: February 09, 2016, 12:39:13 PM by Eleanor »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4372 on: February 09, 2016, 12:00:18 PM »
It could well be Jassi.

I hardly think any Barrister would say it's perfectly OK to go out drinking, and leave 3 children under the age of 4 by themselves.

a barrister would want more facts than that...which is what he had

Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4373 on: February 09, 2016, 12:02:33 PM »
Do you have his/her name and the precise quotation ?
The precise quotation of what the barrister professionally advised is "well within the bounds of reasonable parenting" and the source is KM book page 124. IMO the name is certainly not impossible to find.

Offline jassi

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4374 on: February 09, 2016, 12:20:39 PM »
So basically what we have is a hearsay statement of what was said by an unidentified person.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4375 on: February 09, 2016, 12:30:23 PM »
So basically what we have is a hearsay statement of what was said by an unidentified person.

Yup.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4376 on: February 09, 2016, 12:36:27 PM »
The precise quotation of what the barrister professionally advised is "well within the bounds of reasonable parenting" and the source is KM book page 124. IMO the name is certainly not impossible to find.

A paralegal from Leicester who worked for the IFLG flew out to PdL on 11th May with a barrister. The topics discussed over the weekend included the 'responsible parenting' issue, applying for Ward of Court status for the child and the setting up of the 'fighting fund'. The fund was incorporated very quickly and launched on 16th.

The first report I can find saying the patio doors were left open is 13th May. Up until then it was believed the apartment had been secured. No wonder they wanted reassurance about their parenting practices.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4377 on: February 09, 2016, 01:00:13 PM »
a barrister would want more facts than that...which is what he had
Indeed davel, the professional legal advice quoted in KM book p124 was not given from the office in London - it was given in PDL on May12/13, after the advisor had viewed the walking distance and visibility from the tapas restaurant table to the child bedroom (at carpark end of apartment 5A).
« Last Edit: February 09, 2016, 01:16:28 PM by pegasus »

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4378 on: February 09, 2016, 01:03:15 PM »

It was Amaral who lied (in his book) that Harrison and Grime did say those things.

It's why Amaral will lose the libel trial ....

If he hasn't already.

Grime didn't say the dogs didn't scent death.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gonçalo Amaral confirms he will appeal the damages decision to higher Court.
« Reply #4379 on: February 09, 2016, 01:15:02 PM »
So basically what we have is a hearsay statement of what was said by an unidentified person.

It would seem that way.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey