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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: AnneGuedes on June 10, 2013, 03:54:14 PM
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In a Paris Match interview on the 4th of September 2007 :
Mrs McCann : Peut-être parce qu’ils grandissent, ils s’expriment mieux. Quand ils voient le chat de Madeleine, ils disent “Maddie”• Quand ils voient son sac, ils disent “Maddie”.
(this is a translation and I'm retranslating) May be because (the twins) grow up, they express themselves better. When they see Madeleine's cat (CC or Mog ? ), they say "Maddie". When they see her bag, they say "Maddie".
Mr McCann. Parfois ils disent “we love Madeleine”, et nous on répond “we love Madeleine”. Au pire, quand ils demanderont où elle est, nous dirons qu’elle a disparu ou qu’elle est perdue. C’est l’idée que nous devrons leur suggérer. On le fera quand ils seront prêts. Par exemple, ils ne comprennent pas quand ils voient Madeleine à la télévision. D’ailleurs nous ne l’allumons plus.
Sometimes they say "we love Madeleine" and we answer "we love Madeleine". At worst, when they ask where she is, we'll say she has disappeared or that she's lost. This is the idea that we'll have to suggest them. We'll do it when they're ready. For example, they don't understand when they see Madeleine on TV. Besides we don't switch it on.
Once I mentioned this case to a British friend of mine and she made me repeat when I said "Madeleine", then she said "she's known here as Maddie, nobody calls her Madeleine".
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http://www.parismatch.com/Actu/International/Maddie-Quand-Match-rencontrait-ses-parents-Kate-et-Gerry-161656
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I have always referred to her as Madeleine. but then I have never liked derivatives and avoid them whenever possible.
But it is possible that the twins might have had some difficulty with her name, and other more ignorant people might have shortened it.
I believe that her mother and father preferred, and still do prefer her correct name.
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Kate once said that Madeleine liked to be called Madeleine 'My name is Madeleine with three E's'. Obviously something the parents had taught her, probably when helping her learn how to spell her name.
Remember this is a child who was not yet four years old.
I find all this they called her Madeleine then Maddie, ridiculous. The McCanns always refer to her as Madeleine that is her name. Other's shorten it. So what.
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Which newspaper launched "Our Maddie" ?
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Which newspaper launched "Our Maddie" ?
The Sun, so far as I can gauge ...
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I have always referred to her as Madeleine. but then I have never liked derivatives and avoid them whenever possible.
But it is possible that the twins might have had some difficulty with her name, and other more ignorant people might have shortened it.
I believe that her mother and father preferred, and still do prefer her correct name.
Yet Gerry in a Friends Reunited post, since deleted, called her Maddie and one of the nannies in her statement said that was how Madeleine introduced herself.
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since deleted
Isn't that convenient
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So what?
The general public came to know her as Maddie or Maddy. Gerry probably called her Maddy to interact with the general public.
If Madeleine introduced herself as Maddy could be people outside called her that. It still doesn't mean that she didn't like to be known as Madeleine.
Someone I know is called Joseph everyone outside the family call him Joey, ask him his name he says 'Joseph' but everyone calls me Joey.
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Does it matter? Or is it being used as another stick, to beat the McCann's with?
My name is shortened, but they can call me what they like, as long as its not late for me dinner @)(++(*
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Does it matter? Or is it being used as another stick, to beat the McCann's with?
My name is shortened, but they can call me what they like, as long as its not late for me dinner @)(++(*
Of course it matters. It goes to the heart of the McCanns honesty.
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I think it does matter.
Personally, I have no objection per se to the diminutive "Maddie" and if I knew someone of that name who was, herself, comfortable with that diminutive, I'd probably use it (I don't, as it happens).
But Kate and Gerry have always made plain that they prefer Madeleine, and would prefer others to address her that way, too.
I think it's only respectful to follow their wishes.
And Faith has me in stitches again ...
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Of course it matters. It goes to the heart of the McCanns honesty.
ORLY?
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I think it does matter.
Personally, I have no objection per se to the diminutive "Maddie" and if I knew someone of that name who was, herself, comfortable with that diminutive, I'd probably use it (I don't, as it happens).
But Kate and Gerry have always made plain that they prefer Madeleine, and would prefer others to address her that way, too.
I think it's only respectful to follow their wishes.
And Faith has me in stitches again ...
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Then why did Gerry use Maddie when referring to her ? And why did Kate say Madeleine didn't like being called it when the nanny at the crèche said that's exactly how she introduced herself ?
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Then why did Gerry use Maddie when referring to her ?
Where's the evidence that he did?
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Then why did Gerry use Maddie when referring to her ?
Where's the evidence that he did?
Have you listened to some of their interviews?
Sometimes it sounds like Maddie, but listened to properly or with ear phones, it is Madeleine. They both speak quite fast, especially Gerry.
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Have you listened to some of their interviews?
Sometimes it sounds like Maddie, but listened to properly or with ear phones, it is Madeleine. They both speak quite fast, especially Gerry.
Ah!
Maybe that's it.
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Then why did Gerry use Maddie when referring to her ?
Where's the evidence that he did?
A list of people who claimed Madeleine was called Maddie. Gerry's Friends Reunited entry is second down.
Kate McCann
"Maybe because they're growing. They express themselves better. When they see Madeleine's cat, they say "Maddie". When they see her bag, as well."
Paris Match interview, talking about the twins, 04 September 2007

Gerry McCann
'April 2005- Back in Leicester and looking for a job. Now father of three with Sean and Amelie joing Maddie.'
Gerry's Friends Reunited entry, April 2005 - entry updated May 2007 but 'Maddie' remained


Gerry McCann
"Today we think that if Maddie had been taken or killed quickly, there would have been evidence [of this]."
Paris Match interview, 04 September 2007

Trish Cameron (Gerry's sister)
"When Kate checked, she came out screaming. Maddy had gone. The door was open and the window in the bedroom and shutters were jemmied open."
Daily Mirror, 05 May 2007 Link

Eileen McCann (Gerry's mother)
"Anyone who knows Gerry and Kate knows that they cherished Maddie."
"Somebody came into Maddie's room, carried her out in her pyjamas..."
The Sun, 28 April 2008 Link
John McCann (Gerry's brother)
"They're much more positive about things that can be done to get Maddy back."
Liverpool Daily Post, 10 May 2007 Link
John McCann (Gerry's brother)
"We are hoping this is going to be resolved very soon. We have got one objective - we want to get our darling wee Maddy back."
Daily Mirror, 10 May 2007 Link
John McCann (Gerry's brother)
"Kate dressed Amelie in her sister's pyjamas and the baby said: 'Maddy's jammies. Where is Maddy?'"
Sydney Morning Herald, 15 May 2007 Link
Susan Healy (Kate's mother)
"This is a set-up. Maddie is Kate and Gerry's world. They would never do anything to harm her."
Daily Mail, 08 September 2007 Link
Susan Healy (Kate's mother)
"We want her back, we're not going to accept that Maddie's gone from our life altogether."
Antena3 interview, 22 October 2007 Link
Jon Corner
"Kate phoned me in the early hours totally devastated.
"She just told me that Maddy had been abducted, that the shutters of the apartment had been forced and someone had taken her.
"Maddy was asleep in the room with Sean and Amelie and whoever has taken her has gone straight past the sleeping twins, left them completely alone and snatched Maddy."
Liverpool Daily Post, 06 May 2007 Link
Mark McQueen (Sean's godfather)
"We know Maddie very well. She is an adorable, glorious and funny three-year-old."
Liverpool Confidential, 09 May 2007 Link
Charlotte Pennington (Ocean Club nanny)
'The informant adds that Madeleine was usually called "Maddie" given that it was under that name that Madeleine introduced herself to the informant, the shortened form of her first name.'
Excerpt summary of Charlotte Pennington's police interview on 07 May 2007
Charlotte Pennington (Ocean Club nanny)
"She didn't get the name, but she said it sounded something like 'Abbey, Gabby or Maddie'. We automatically went into lost-child procedure. In these situations, the first thing we do is investigate the scene.
"We knew that one of the other nanny's charges was called Maddie."
Daily Mail, 25 September 2007 Link
Charlotte Pennington (Ocean Club nanny)
'... a woman she did not know, but who must have been a tourist, went to their building asking if they were aware of the disappearance of a child called "Maggie" or "Maddie".'
Excerpt summary of Charlotte Pennington's police interview on 07 May 2007
Russell O'Brien (Tapas 7)
'Kate returned through the reception area standing at the end of the path near the stones, and yelled over towards our table in the Tapas bar I cannot recall exactly what she yelled but it was along the lines of Maddy is missing. We all got up immediately except Dianne who remained at the table.'
Excerpt from rogatory interview, 10 April 2010
Pat Perkins (close family friend)
'Whether you are in the UK, Portugal, Europe or beyond, please forward to all your family, friends,colleagues and business associates. Someone out there will have some information that will lead to Maddy's return.
The internet can be a powerful tool in finding Maddy, who is so loved and missed by us all.
Let's use it positively.
Please pray for Madeleine and all the family at this devastating time.
We need your help. We know you won't let Maddy down.'
extract from chain e-mail sent 07 May 2007
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This little boy I know would no doubt introduce himself as Joey, as everyone outside the home call him Joey.
Doesn't mean that he likes being called Joey and could well prefer to be called Joseph.
Madeleine was nearly four at that age they are funny about what they say, she might have demanded to be called Madeleine at home then call herself Maddy outside, that's kids for goodness sake.
It is really of no importance at all.
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This little boy I know would no doubt introduce himself as Joey, as everyone outside the home call him Joey.
Doesn't mean that he likes being called Joey and could well prefer to be called Joseph.
Madeleine was nearly four at that age they are funny about what they say, she might have demanded to be called Madeleine at home then call herself Maddy outside, that's kids for goodness sake.
It is really of no importance at all.
But why then did Kate in one interview say Madeleine didn't like being called Maddie and in another that the family never called her anything like that when there is ample evidence Madeleine herself and her family did use the diminutive Maddie ?
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We don't know Madeleine, we've seen lots of pictures but often one doubts this is the same child, I stick to those which were taken in PDL, the others are just more confusion (but the famous toddler one is still in use), we don't know how was her voice and don't even know one anecdote about her, except for the crying episode, not much more. Her parents didn't remember which day she was sailing and it seems she curiously said nothing about such a so special experience. Mrs McCann insisted "Madeleine played tennis" hum, she picked up balls, touching picture.
All we know about Madeleine is that she disappeared and became Maddie, a virtual little girl.
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This little boy I know would no doubt introduce himself as Joey, as everyone outside the home call him Joey.
Doesn't mean that he likes being called Joey and could well prefer to be called Joseph.
Madeleine was nearly four at that age they are funny about what they say, she might have demanded to be called Madeleine at home then call herself Maddy outside, that's kids for goodness sake.
It is really of no importance at all.
if it is of no importance why did Kate Mccann make it an issue?
Kate McCann
"She has a lot of personality and her name actually means 'tower of strength'. But she hated it when we called her Maddie - she'd say, 'My name is Madeleine', with an indignant look on her face."
Women's Own interview, published 13 August 2007
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id169.html
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id163.html
Q – Aren't you curious to know what the book says?
Kate – What for? It must be nothing but a load of rubbish. It is so secondary… It certainly won't help to find our daughter. My consolation is that on the cover he calls her Maddie, the name that the media have invented. We never called her anything like that.
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We don't know Madeleine, we've seen lots of pictures but often one doubts this is the same child, I stick to those which were taken in PDL, the others are just more confusion (but the famous toddler one is still in use), we don't know how was her voice and don't even know one anecdote about her, except for the crying episode, not much more. Her parents didn't remember which day she was sailing and it seems curiously she said nothing about such a so special experience. Mrs McCann insisted "Madeleine played tennis" hum, she picked up balls, touching picture.
All we know about Madeleine is that she disappeared and became Maddie, a virtual little girl.
We do know how her voice was. Christmas video 2006.
Kate
Apart from that, on Wednesday or Thursday, Madeleine and the other children went sailing at the beach!
Gerry
Apart from what has been described, Madeleine and the other children went sailing on the beach, a five minute walk from the club.
Seems they both knew about the short cut too.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id192.html
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if it is of no importance why did Kate Mccann make it an issue?
Kate McCann
"She has a lot of personality and her name actually means 'tower of strength'. But she hated it when we called her Maddie - she'd say, 'My name is Madeleine', with an indignant look on her face."
Women's Own interview, published 13 August 2007
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id169.html
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id163.html
Q – Aren't you curious to know what the book says?
Kate – What for? It must be nothing but a load of rubbish. It is so secondary… It certainly won't help to find our daughter. My consolation is that on the cover he calls her Maddie, the name that the media have invented. We never called her anything like that.
Published means nothing, that could be the journo. Is there a video, where either call her Maddie?
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of course DCI, now which interview do you thnk has been *doctored* and what would be the journos motive putting words into mrs Ms mouth? About what she called her child?
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both publications were *mccann friendly* too
There is no video but there is documentary evidence that Gerry called her Maddie off his *own* friends reunited page, which was posted earlier on
Oh and btw Madeleines voice was not released for YEARS after, 2010/2011 the earliest, even if it was recorded in 2006
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Do grow up, Red!
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Do grow up, Red!
So no reply? Nothing to say on the facts?and questions?Never mind
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Voices change when the language improves.
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Voices change when the language improves.
What in 4 months?
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As I thought, no evidence, just the malevolent machinations of Moore.
Cumulatively, there must be hours of footage of people being interviewed about Madeleine.
But none of anyone saying Maddie?
I'm sure there's a reason for that ...
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Actually "Madeleine", the French form, comes from "Magdala", today Medjel (from the hebrew migdal, "tour"), in the north of Tiberiade. Marie de Magdala was called this way to distinguish her from Jesus' mother, also Marie. She was a repented whore as everybody knows but, according to the apocryphal gospels found in Nag Hammadi in 1945 (one of them is the gospel of Marie de Magdala, the gospel of a woman !), she was Jesus' lover.
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As I thought, no evidence, just the malevolent machinations of Moore.
OK so you are saying Nigel Moore who runs the mccannfiles site has fabrictaed parts of a womans magazine article? And also parts of an Expresso newspaper article? ORLY? Prove it then if u are accusing
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The only reason that I can remember that Kate brought up the fact that Madeleine liked to be called Madeleine is that she was afraid that someone would call her Maddie when there was a sighting of her and she might not respond, so it would be better to call her Madeleine or Madeleine and Maddie.
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The only reason that I can remember that Kate brought up the fact that Madeleine liked to be called Madeleine is that she was afraid that someone would call her Maddie when there was a sighting of her and she might not respond, so it would be better to call her Madeleine or Madeleine and Maddie.
So no video footage of anyone referring to "Maddie"?
Why is that?
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So no video footage of anyone referring to "Maddie"?
Why is that?
No video footage proves nothing...now, awaiting yiur reply to my last post
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No video footage proves nothing...now, awaiting yiur reply to my last post
You are backing losers prolifically tonight.
You've lost on Galloway as well ...
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You are backing losers prolifically tonight.
You've lost on Galloway as well ...
So you are avoiding answering my question by moving goalposts? LOL not surprised anyway, not a sign of an honest poster
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Repeating it in case you didnt have yoir glasses on at the time
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Quote from: ferryman on Today at 08:01:57 PM
As I thought, no evidence, just the malevolent machinations of Moore.
OK so you are saying Nigel Moore who runs the mccannfiles site has fabrictaed parts of a womans magazine article? And also parts of an Expresso newspaper article? ORLY? Prove it then if u are accusing
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So you are avoiding answering my question by moving goalposts? LOL not surprised anyway, not a sign of an honest poster
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Repeating it in case you didnt have yoir glasses on at the time
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Quote from: ferryman on Today at 08:01:57 PM
As I thought, no evidence, just the malevolent machinations of Moore.
OK so you are saying Nigel Moore who runs the mccannfiles site has fabrictaed parts of a womans magazine article? And also parts of an Expresso newspaper article? ORLY? Prove it then if u are accusing
I take it no video footage of anyone referring to Madeleine as "Maddie"?
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That there is no footage does not PROVE she was never referred to as Maddie, that is a fact...what is also fac t is that theywere reported to do such, in interviews, on you go to answering my obviously *unanswerable* post by *you* proving that nigel moore has fabricated or doctored with magazine and newspaper articles proving she was called Maddie, floors all yours
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Be back later to see your *proof* or even *justifiable suspicion* based on say previous doctoring by him, then I guess your efforts will result in NIL points as you have form accusing people of doctoring stuff yu dont like but hqve never ever prove it in any way shape or form
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there is no footage
I'm glad we've got that sorted.
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there is no footage
I'm glad we've got that sorted.
NOTHNG is sorted, so man up for once *if * possible, see ya for now
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What in 4 months?
I can't figure out the voice on the video (extremely poor quality) saying "be a monster, chase me".
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Excellent resource for all things Maddie ( and a screenshot of the Friends Reunited entry from Gerry ).
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id169.html
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So still no video footage of anyone referring to Madeleine as "Maddie"
Why is that?
Here is an especially enlightening link from one of Moore's references:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/maddie/article1096372.ece
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And the screenshot of Gerry's entry on his Friends Reunited page ?
Compelling evidence I say.
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http://www.mccannfiles.com/id169.html
Interesting page of Nigel. It shows that UK people have difficulties to spell "Madeleine". "Maddy/ie" is more popular, but I see this use by the tabloids and those who read them like an appropriation (Our Maddie) and in fact an annihilation.
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Just in case anyone missed the screenshot of Gerry calling Madeleine Maddie here it is :
http://www.mccannfiles.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/friendsreunited.jpg&target=tlx_piclqkt
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Screenshots can be faked.
I'm sure Moore knows how to do it.
http://www.labnol.org/internet/fake-screenshots/20242/
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Screenshots can be faked.
I'm sure Moore knows how to do it.
http://www.labnol.org/internet/fake-screenshots/20242/
So are you actually accusing Nigel Moore of manipulating this image ?
I seem to remember Gerry also asking if anyone wanted to babysit, an entry swiftly withdrawn very early on in May 2007.
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So are you actually accusing Nigel Moore of manipulating this image ?
I seem to remember Gerry also asking if anyone wanted to babysit, an entry swiftly withdrawn very early on in May 2007.
Where is Nigel these days? He's not been around much of late ...
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So still no video footage of anyone referring to Madeleine as "Maddie"
Why is that?
Here is an especially enlightening link from one of Moore's references:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/maddie/article1096372.ece
Ferryman did you check this webpage was working becos it aint now.
Same as a pro one I spotted the other day ... a video that worked a coupa weeks back, no longer working
I wonder why?
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Where is Nigel these days? He's not been around much of late ...
Probably gone to find Rosiepops.
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Ferryman did you check this webpage was working becos it aint now.
Same as a pro one I spotted the other day ... a video that worked a coupa weeks back, no longer working
I wonder why?
Precisely, Sadie.
That's what's enlightening.
Sometimes Less is More (or Moore) ....
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I'd like to know what any of this has to do with Madeleine preferring to be called Madeleine and not Maddie.
People called her Maddie so what? Madeleine accepted that and evern called herself Maddie , that doesn't mean that she didn't PREFER to be called Madeleine.
Why on earth would the parents lie that Madeleine said that? What gain can be had from it?
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I'd like to know what any of this has to do with Madeleine preferring to be called Madeleine and not Maddie.
People called her Maddie so what? Madeleine accepted that and evern called herself Maddie , that doesn't mean that she didn't PREFER to be called Madeleine.
Why on earth would the parents lie that Madeleine said that? What gain can be had from it?
Now that IS a good question Lace.
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Excellent !
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I'd like to know what any of this has to do with Madeleine preferring to be called Madeleine and not Maddie.
People called her Maddie so what? Madeleine accepted that and evern called herself Maddie , that doesn't mean that she didn't PREFER to be called Madeleine.
Why on earth would the parents lie that Madeleine said that? What gain can be had from it?
Totally agree with you Lace. IMO Just another example of the ridiculous extremes of 'nitpicking' to which some sceptics will go - simply to find fault with the McCanns. This particular example couldn't be more pathetic IMO.
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Totally agree with you Lace. IMO Just another example of the ridiculous extremes of 'nitpicking' to which some sceptics will go - simply to find fault with the McCanns. This particular example couldn't be more pathetic IMO.
Find fault ! Come on, Benice !
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Find fault ! Come on, Benice !
Can you come up with a reason why the McCann's would lie about this Anne?
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There is no reason for them to have lied about that. Children that age go through phases like this, it's not unusual at all. All of a sudden you are not allowed to call them "baby" names any more, it's a all part of growing up.
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Find fault ! Come on, Benice !
Come on Anne, you must have noticed by now that everything the McCanns say is wrong and everything they do is wrong - according to some. You only have to read the Sceptic Fora to know that. Every word they utter, every facial expression is picked over and manipulated until it's been turned into something nasty to use against them. Even Kate running in the marathon for charity was sneered at and turned into a selfish action on her part by some. Every move they make is turned into a negative.
Can you honestly imagine SY having a serious discussion (or any discussion for that matter) over what the McCanns have said about their daughter preferring to be called Madeleine instead of Maddie.
It would be laughable if the circumstances were not so tragic.
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Has someone come up with a plausible motive the parents would have had to LIE about something as utterly trivial as what the child liked to be called? How would it have benefited them in any way?
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There is no reason for them to have lied about that. Children that age go through phases like this, it's not unusual at all. All of a sudden you are not allowed to call them "baby" names any more, it's a all part of growing up.
And that Kate said 'we never called her anything like that ' when there is reams of evidence the proved they did ?
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Motive for lying about that? Anyone? No, I didn't think so....
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Motive for lying about that? Anyone? No, I didn't think didn't think so....
No motive needed, and the fact that there is no discernible motive could even suggest being dishonest has simply become second nature to them now.
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No, I have seen no proof of any dishonesty from Kate McCann in this respect at all. I have seen dishonesty from those who claim so though, quite a lot of it actually.
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And that Kate said 'we never called her anything like that ' when there is reams of evidence the proved they did ?
FGS I've got a family member called James. Everyone calls him Jim - except me, because I think James is a lovely name. I have often commented that I am the only person left who only ever calls him by his proper name, but actually that isn't strictly true, cos I have called him Jim on a couple of occasions. Now does that prove that I am a massive liar whose word can never be trusted? This is all so petty imo. It's just nitpicking.
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Yes, it's truly ridiculous. It reminds me a bit of Bennett tbh, he had a tendency to accuse others of what he himself was.
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Yes, it's truly ridiculous. It reminds me a bit of Bennett tbh, he had a tendency to accuse others of what he himself was.
This is one of the disorders described in DSM-IV
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Come on Anne, you must have noticed by now that everything the McCanns say is wrong and everything they do is wrong - according to some. You only have to read the Sceptic Fora to know that. Every word they utter, every facial expression is picked over and manipulated until it's been turned into something nasty to use against them.
Being sceptic has nothing to do with being nasty. I really don't feel nasty !
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No motive needed, and the fact that there is no discernible motive could even suggest being dishonest has simply become second nature to them now.
So no video evidence of anyone saying "Maddie"?
Why is that?
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So no video evidence of anyone saying "Maddie"?
Why is that?
Why must there be, the mccanns have released a few seconds of video with them and Madeleine together with sound
Whether this is an issue or not there is documentary evidence that KM said they*never* called her Maddie as well as the same saying they had, even if YOU declare it, without any evidence, just accusation and imagnation, that its doctored
Personally I dont give a t*** apart from the obvious contradiction in words on the subject and why KM herself made it an issue initially
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So no video evidence of anyone saying "Maddie"?
Why is that?
No, as per normal, we can expect no credible cites or links to along with the speculations.
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No, as per normal, we can expect no credible cites or links to along with the speculations.
No speculations here Mrs B, unless you are asserting Gerrys FR page was doctored as well as womans own magazine article with Kate
In that case you will need to furnish the board with a copy of both originals to prove no such thngs were said
ETA it is IMO *extremely* disingenuous of you to sayit is *normal* that people do *not* provide links, this is untrue
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Can you come up with a reason why the McCann's would lie about this Anne?
Actually, Lace, I see no "lie" here. I think it was hard for Mrs McCann, to have her daughter taken from her and then have her taken from her intimity by the media which right away abusively baptised Madeleine with a "selling" name that unfortunately was in use privately, i.e was nobody's business. This is how I understand Mrs McCann trying to make people call Madeleine by her real name.
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Oh, is that where it says "Madeleine didn't like to be called Maddie"? Isn't that what the parents claimed & what they are supposedly accused of lying about? - For some totally inexplicable reason...
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Oh, is that where it says "Madeleine didn't like to be called Maddie"? Isn't that what the parents claimed & what they are supposedly accused of lying about? - For some totally inexplicable reason...
I dont know who you are talking to, it helps if you say,...the point is Kate said they never ever called her Maddie, well seems they did, that is all, and why she should say that in the first place...big trouble in little china
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the point is Kate said they never ever called her Maddie,
Correct!
I'm waiting for someone to produce evidence otherwise ...
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if it is of no importance why did Kate Mccann make it an issue?
Kate McCann
"She has a lot of personality and her name actually means 'tower of strength'. But she hated it when we called her Maddie - she'd say, 'My name is Madeleine', with an indignant look on her face."
Women's Own interview, published 13 August 2007
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id169.html
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id163.html
Q – Aren't you curious to know what the book says?
Kate – What for? It must be nothing but a load of rubbish. It is so secondary… It certainly won't help to find our daughter. My consolation is that on the cover he calls her Maddie, the name that the media have invented. We never called her anything like that.
Just noticed that Redblossom. She hated it when we called her Maddie says Kate. So they did call her Maddie but she hated it. There you have it then. Madeleine preferred to be called Madeleine, but people called her Maddie. That's all there is to it.
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Snap Lace, I was just about to say the same. I.e. AFTER Madeleine expressively told them she didn't like to be called Maddie, they never called her that. Is that what the great "dishonesty" is supposed to be about? Utterly ridiculous.
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the point is Kate said they never ever called her Maddie,
Correct!
I'm waiting for someone to produce evidence otherwise ...
She was quoted as sayng she did in the womans own article i quoted from earlier in the thread, why are you taking one newspaper/magazine quote given by Kate Mccann as true and the other one as false?
Expresso interview with Kate, we never called her anything like that
Womans Own interview, when we did call her that she didnt like it
You cant have it both ways, anyway, bored, so leave you to labour it and prove one or both of those quotes are false, have fun
Eta, yes Lace,you are entitled to interpret
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Both quotes are true, the first one; "she hated it when we called her Maddie" explains the reason why they "never called her that". This is not difficult to figure out.
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Both quotes are true, the first one; "she hated it when we called her Maddie" explains the reason why they "never called her that". This is not difficult to figure out.
thats your interpretation, however KM went on to say whilst pointing to Mr Amarals book, that the name Maddie was a media *invention*, clearly it was not a media invention!
Now I am not going to be drawn back here
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Promises, promises....LOL
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Was she called Maddie?
It would seem that someone told the portuguese police she was, if you look at 1.6. This was dated 8 May 2007.
(http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P2/2_VOLUME%20IIa_Page_467_prosesso.jpg)
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It says on there "brown spot in retina" that is wrong as it was "a brown spot on the iris" or something like that but definitely wasn't on her retina.