The Ian Horrock's Report on the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[j.rob]

Oh dear!! Ian Horrock -what a load of rollocks.....so much there that is mad, bad and sad. And frankly complete rubbish. Plus he was working for The Sun - is that supposed to confer some kind of respectability/integrity - oh - pleeeaase!

So much of what he has written could be pulled to pieces. Really, it is the biggest load of tripe.

And I have to ask, how many people of sound mind (who do not want to get their hands on ill-begotten gains - and that is putting it mildly) really believe the Muck version of events....with all the Muck characters playing their hideous roles?

Madeleine  RIP.

[John]

Another expert who says the dogs are irrelevant. Astonishing lol doesn't he know why they are used?

"the irrelevant behaviour of the cadaver dogs"

That comment alone raises some serious questions as to his credibility.  Is he really saying that the worldwide use of cadaver dogs is an irrelevance? 

[j.rob]

Indeed....dogs are incredibly reliable, intuitive and without cunning....

[sadie]

Indeed....dogs are incredibly reliable, intuitive and without cunning....

Yep, so long as the investigating officers understand exactly the meanings of what they reveal and what they dont reveal.

What a pity that Amaral didn't understand .... or chose not to understand

[Lyall]

I think Mr H was probably just being careful not to rock the boat: his ex-colleague Hamish Campbell was still involved in the review at the time of this report.

Maybe Horrocks would say something different now?

Maybe Campbell too >@@(*&)

[a.baker]

Hi,am really confused about the emphasis that has been put on Tanner's sighting. Her sighting was before Matthew's check wasn't it? Matthew left the tapas at 9.30pm and by the time he walked to apartments,checked on his own child,called for Russell,it must have been around 9.40 by the time he went into 5a to check on the McCann children? And the curtains,shutters,window were not open at that time,so presumably the 'abductor' had not struck by then? So surely.any would be abductor must have struck between Matthew's check and Kate's check? Matthew says Kate left tapas at 9.50,before which,Russell is returning to the tapas bar. There doesn't appear to be much window of opportunity (no pun intended) for any abductor to strike. Or am I missing something here?

[AnneGuedes]

Maybe Horrocks would say something different now?

He was paid, and certainly very well paid, to say what suited the Sun. Would he say something different now, he would be twice despicable.

[Lyall]

He was paid, and certainly very well paid, to say what suited the Sun. Would he say something different now, he would be twice despicable.

Maybe, or maybe he said something that suited his ex-colleagues involved in the review? Remember the police didn't ask for this assignment, Anne. It was a political move.

[Lyall]

Hi,am really confused about the emphasis that has been put on Tanner's sighting. Her sighting was before Matthew's check wasn't it? Matthew left the tapas at 9.30pm and by the time he walked to apartments,checked on his own child,called for Russell,it must have been around 9.40 by the time he went into 5a to check on the McCann children? And the curtains,shutters,window were not open at that time,so presumably the 'abductor' had not struck by then? So surely.any would be abductor must have struck between Matthew's check and Kate's check? Matthew says Kate left tapas at 9.50,before which,Russell is returning to the tapas bar. There doesn't appear to be much window of opportunity (no pun intended) for any abductor to strike. Or am I missing something here?

I don't think you're missing anything except that Oldfield doesn't say the shutters were closed or open at 9.30. He appears to want to suggest either could have been the case.

[AnneGuedes]

Hi,am really confused about the emphasis that has been put on Tanner's sighting. Her sighting was before Matthew's check wasn't it? Matthew left the tapas at 9.30pm and by the time he walked to apartments,checked on his own child,called for Russell,it must have been around 9.40 by the time he went into 5a to check on the McCann children? And the curtains,shutters,window were not open at that time,so presumably the 'abductor' had not struck by then? So surely.any would be abductor must have struck between Matthew's check and Kate's check? Matthew says Kate left tapas at 9.50,before which,Russell is returning to the tapas bar. There doesn't appear to be much window of opportunity (no pun intended) for any abductor to strike. Or am I missing something here?

Mr Oldfield was vague on his alleged check at 9:30, but certainly didn't say that the curtains were drawn.
Mr McCann on the 4th :
At about 22.00 it was his wife Kate who went to check on the children. She entered the apartment by the door using the key and saw immediately that the door to the children's bedroom was completely open, the window was also open, the blinds were raised and the curtains were drawn open.
In Mr McCann's second statement on the 10th :
When he arrived at the bedroom he first noticed that the door was completely open, the window was also open on one side, the external blinds almost fully raised, the curtains drawn back,
It means clearly that something happened between 21:30 and 22 : someone had opened the curtains (and the window and the shutters).

[a.baker]

Mr Oldfield was vague on his alleged check at 9:30, but certainly didn't say that the curtains were drawn.
Mr McCann on the 4th :
At about 22.00 it was his wife Kate who went to check on the children. She entered the apartment by the door using the key and saw immediately that the door to the children's bedroom was completely open, the window was also open, the blinds were raised and the curtains were drawn open.
In Mr McCann's second statement on the 10th :
When he arrived at the bedroom he first noticed that the door was completely open, the window was also open on one side, the external blinds almost fully raised, the curtains drawn back,
It means clearly that something happened between 21:30 and 22 : someone had opened the curtains (and the window and the shutters).

Thank you so much for clarifying that.

[sadie]

Hi,am really confused about the emphasis that has been put on Tanner's sighting. Her sighting was before Matthew's check wasn't it? Matthew left the tapas at 9.30pm and by the time he walked to apartments,checked on his own child,called for Russell,it must have been around 9.40 by the time he went into 5a to check on the McCann children? And the curtains,shutters,window were not open at that time,so presumably the 'abductor' had not struck by then? So surely.any would be abductor must have struck between Matthew's check and Kate's check? Matthew says Kate left tapas at 9.50,before which,Russell is returning to the tapas bar. There doesn't appear to be much window of opportunity (no pun intended) for any abductor to strike. Or am I missing something here?

I believe that Matt did say something about he thought that some light may have been coming thru the window, so if the wind had dropped (in the lull before the storm?) it is not impossible that the abduction had taken place.

Please correct me if i am wrong about some light coming from the window?
 
In actual fact, very little light penetrated thru the thick tree canopies from the street lamps, so if he saw any light at all, then it is very likely that the abduction had already taken place IMO.

Incidentally, Matt came to 5A from Russells flat and he was let out thru the back patio door, so he walked along the alleyway to reach the patio steps up to 5A.  He did not go the front way.

[AnneGuedes]

Thank you so much for clarifying that.

I checked the Portuguese in Mrs McCann 1st statement and Mr McCann's 1st and 2nd statements : in all three the curtains are apart (os cortinados afastados).
The curtains started to be closed, though, in the timeline elaborated by the group before Mr McCann's second statement..
She is about to leave, when she notices the bedroom door was open (approximately 60 degrees).
She starts to close it and it slams. Considering the patio doors had caused a draft, she checks these doors but they are closed. KM returns to the bedroom and opens the door to check the children were not disturbed by the noise.
At this point, she notices that Madeleine is missing. She checks the other single bed in the room and also Kate and Gerry's beds. Then she double checks that Madeleine was not in her bedroom again. At this point, she notices the curtains blowing forward with a gust of wind. She runs over, pulls open the curtain and notices the shutter was completely raised, and the window pushed open to the left as far as possible.

[Mr Gray]

I checked the Portuguese in Mrs McCann 1st statement and Mr McCann's 1st and 2nd statements : in all three the curtains are apart (os cortinados afastados).
The curtains started to be closed, though, in the timeline elaborated by the group before Mr McCann's second statement..
She is about to leave, when she notices the bedroom door was open (approximately 60 degrees).
She starts to close it and it slams. Considering the patio doors had caused a draft, she checks these doors but they are closed. KM returns to the bedroom and opens the door to check the children were not disturbed by the noise.
At this point, she notices that Madeleine is missing. She checks the other single bed in the room and also Kate and Gerry's beds. Then she double checks that Madeleine was not in her bedroom again. At this point, she notices the curtains blowing forward with a gust of wind. She runs over, pulls open the curtain and notices the shutter was completely raised, and the window pushed open to the left as far as possible.

fact is kate gave her statement in English...but carry on finding mistakes made by the translators

[a.baker]

Thank you Anne. And yes Sadie,I agree there must have been a light source somewhere to allow Matt to be able to see the twins. But, this must have also have been the case for GM's 9pm check...he was able to stand for a while (according to him) and look at Madeleine. I'm sure he wouldn't have turned the light on for fear of waking them?