"they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did" claim.

[Angelo222]

Quite simply
Where is the evidence that the McCanns lied

The police suspected it and the AG confirmed it.  But then you don't believe the Portuguese so why ask?

[Carana]

She found it to be relevant ?

To the trial at hand.

[Alice Purjorick]

To the trial at hand.

When I put something in a document it is because it has relevance.
I guess the judge would operate the same way and thought it was relevant to the proceedings otherwise why would she do it?
I doubt she had a word target to achieve.

[Angelo222]

When I put something in a document it is because it has relevance.
I guess the judge would operate the same way and thought it was relevant to the proceedings otherwise why would she do it?
I doubt she had a word target to achieve.

She included quite a bit of the archive yet ignored other bits. 

[pathfinder73]

Apparently...

This tallies with Mrs Fenn's statement of them returning at around midnight.

[Carana]

When I put something in a document it is because it has relevance.
I guess the judge would operate the same way and thought it was relevant to the proceedings otherwise why would she do it?
I doubt she had a word target to achieve.

Part of the trial at hand involved trying to work out what Amaral was alleging and the relationship to what was actually in the case files or not.

Most of it was, but was derived from a PARTIAL analysis of the totality.

It was not within her remit to judge whether anything in the files had been judged as true or not (as what was in the files had never come to court).

[John]

The header for Par 15 states...

PROVED FACTS

Taking into account the matter considered undisputed in the selection of facts and the decision handed down in due course after producing the matter of evidence and discussing the case, the following facts are demonstrated :

ie the contents of Par15, the same content which was stated in the Archive, is demonstrated.

[Carana]

The header for Par 15 states...

PROVED FACTS

Taking into account the matter considered undisputed in the selection of facts and the decision handed down in due course after producing the matter of evidence and discussing the case, the following facts are demonstrated :

ie the contents of Par15, the same content which was stated in the Archive, is demonstrated.

Obviously. She was quoting what was stated in the files.

[Alice Purjorick]

Part of the trial at hand involved trying to work out what Amaral was alleging and the relationship to what was actually in the case files or not.

Most of it was, but was derived from a PARTIAL analysis of the totality.

It was not within her remit to judge whether anything in the files had been judged as true or not (as what was in the files had never come to court).

I didn't say it was. The judge was quite clear what the trial was about "Whether the McCann claim had validity".Not even whether or not the book was the truth.
Placing abstracts from the archiving document in her judgement because she thought they were relevant is not the same as judging them.

[Alfred R Jones]

As has already been pointed out, the Court was not concerned with the evidence of the case itself and certainly never elicited any during the trial.  That said, it is curious that the judge included the comments attributed to the police and later promoted in the Archive.

Has anyone got a clue to her reasons?

Could it have anything to do with Amaral's Book, Chapter 12 in particular (entitled "A Rather Weak Monitoring System")?  Seeing as how this trial was about damages caused by his book, presumably he sought to justify his reasons for writing the following:

It is highly likely that inside the apartment, they went through the consequences of their actions and the failure of their monitoring system. To minimise their responsibility and not be accused of negligence, it was necessary for them to augment the frequency of their visits. With the checks so close together, who could imagine that someone would get into the apartment? It was quite simply impossible.

Amaral therefore presumably cited the PT AG's words as his justification, which the damages judge acknowledged appeared in the archiving report, hence she confirmed it is a fact that the PT AG wrote what he wrote.

[Mr Gray]

The police suspected it and the AG confirmed it.  But then you don't believe the Portuguese so why ask?

I asked for what evidence... the AG is an opinion...it confirms nothing.

[Carana]

I didn't say it was. The judge was quite clear what the trial was about "Whether the McCann claim had validity".Not even whether or not the book was the truth.
Placing abstracts from the archiving document in her judgement because she thought they were relevant is not the same as judging them.

Agreed.

[Mr Gray]

The judgement also contains the following in proved facts...

6. The British police dogs “Eddie” and “Keela” detected human blood and cadaver in the apartment 5A, Ocean Club [alínea AR) of the undisputed facts].

7. The British police dogs “Eddie” and “Keela” detected human blood and cadaver in a vehicle rented by the claimants after the disappearance of MMC [alínea AS) of the undisputed facts].


This must come as a massive surprise to Martin Grime...neither of these facts are true...so why are they in the judgement as proved facts

[Carana]

The judgement also contains the following in proved facts...

6. The British police dogs “Eddie” and “Keela” detected human blood and cadaver in the apartment 5A, Ocean Club [alínea AR) of the undisputed facts].

7. The British police dogs “Eddie” and “Keela” detected human blood and cadaver in a vehicle rented by the claimants after the disappearance of MMC [alínea AS) of the undisputed facts].


This must come as a massive surprise to Martin Grime...neither of these facts are true...so why are they in the judgement as proved facts

The judge tried to find if these assertions were in the files.

They were.

However, it was not whithin her remit to question the validity of whether what was in the files was accurate or not - just whether Amaral had drawn on certain bits that were effectively lurking somewhere.

[stephen25000]

As has been stated many times.

Mccann supporters are quite happy when court judgments favour the mccanns.

However, as we see on this thread, they are unable to accept ANYTHING against their doctrine.

As a reminder, can anyone provide a cite showing independent verification of the times when the mccanns or their associates checked the children ?

P.S. Leaving the Tapas area is not verification of a check(s)