Poll - Scent Dogs Accuracy

[pathfinder73]

Found it - look at the lower wall height inside the climbing plant. Body hidden on top of the small wall inside climbing plant. That is where Eddie was interested.

[AnneGuedes]

Found it - look at the lower wall height inside the climbing plant. Body hidden on top of the small wall inside climbing plant. That is where Eddie was interested.

Can you find out when this picture was done ? The grade is removed, perhaps to  be painted.
Without a grade it might be possible, but with not with the grade.

[pathfinder73]

Can you find out when this picture was done ? The grade is removed, perhaps to  be painted.
Without a grade it might be possible, but with not with the grade.

You can't see McCann patio from tapas bar News of the World

Inside Maddie flat: How the fiend could have got in and out

By Keith Gladdis

Sunday, May 11, 2008

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id21.html

[Mr Gray]

Can you say with absolute certainty ferryman that what the dogs indicated was wrong ?

If so, provide proof.

Stephen..its the teapot argument again

[stephen25000]

Stephen..its the teapot argument again

I am well aware of that.

However, as I am sure you are well aware ferryman, in any of his guises, has made consistent attacks on Martin Grimes.

Why ?

[Mr Gray]

I am well aware of that.

However, as I am sure you are well aware ferryman, in any of his guises, has made consistent attacks on Martin Grimes.

Why ?

Because a lot of posters misunderstand the dogs alerts? Grime says that the dogs alerts have no evidential value themselves...thats good enough for me

[stephen25000]

Because a lot of posters misunderstand the dogs alerts? Grime says that the dogs alerts have no evidential value themselves...thats good enough for me

We know that already.

Inconclusive forensics.

However, nothing else has come to light, and having watched/observed the use dogs in a variety of circumstances, together with their accuracy.....................

[stephen25000]

Because a lot of posters misunderstand the dogs alerts? Grime says that the dogs alerts have no evidential value themselves...thats good enough for me

Can you provide the link to his rogatory interview where he states exactly that.

I have been told that he said positive forensic indications were made. >@@(*&)

[Mr Gray]

Can you provide the link to his rogatory interview where he states exactly that.

I have been told that he said positive forensic indications were made. >@@(*&)

im afraid you have been told wrong.,..its in the mccan files...he says that without corroboration the alerts have no value and could have arisen due to several differrent scenarios...Im sure red knows exactly where the statement is

[stephen25000]

im afraid you have been told wrong.,..its in the mccan files...he says that without corroboration the alerts have no value and could have arisen due to several differrent scenarios...Im sure red knows exactly where the statement is

Do you have the link to the precise statement he made ?

[Mr Gray]

copied from McCann files

It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to 'cadaver scent'
 contaminant or human blood scent. No evidential or intelligence
 reliability can  be made from this alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating
 evidence. The remainder of the vehicles were screened by the EVRD without
 any interest being shown. Therefore the CSI dog was not further deployed.


My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert
 indications is that it is  suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant. This does not however
 suggest a motive or suspect as cross contamination could be as a result of a
 number of given scenarios and in any event no evidential or intelligence
 reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with
 corroborating evidence.

[stephen25000]

copied from McCann files

It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to 'cadaver scent'
 contaminant or human blood scent. No evidential or intelligence
 reliability can  be made from this alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating
 evidence. The remainder of the vehicles were screened by the EVRD without
 any interest being shown. Therefore the CSI dog was not further deployed.


My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert
 indications is that it is  suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant. This does not however
 suggest a motive or suspect as cross contamination could be as a result of a
 number of given scenarios and in any event no evidential or intelligence
 reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with
 corroborating evidence.

I have just been sent this.......

'From his rogatory in 2008

In this case in particular, where the dogs alerted there was confirmation by positive results from the forensic examinations. It is the investigators' responsibility to apply the results of the forensic analysis to the suspects, witnesses and crime scenes.'

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_RIGATORY.htm

[Mr Gray]

I have just been sent this.......

'From his rogatory in 2008

In this case in particular, where the dogs alerted there was confirmation by positive results from the forensic examinations. It is the investigators' responsibility to apply the results of the forensic analysis to the suspects, witnesses and crime scenes.'

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_RIGATORY.htm

That statement does not seem to be on that link...

[Mr Gray]

I have just been sent this.......

'From his rogatory in 2008

In this case in particular, where the dogs alerted there was confirmation by positive results from the forensic examinations. It is the investigators' responsibility to apply the results of the forensic analysis to the suspects, witnesses and crime scenes.'

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_RIGATORY.htm

What is this referring to...blood was found on the key fob

[Mr Gray]

I have just been sent this.......

'From his rogatory in 2008

In this case in particular, where the dogs alerted there was confirmation by positive results from the forensic examinations. It is the investigators' responsibility to apply the results of the forensic analysis to the suspects, witnesses and crime scenes.'

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_RIGATORY.htm

cant find that statement anywhere on that link