Why do some think Vincent Tabak innocent?

[Whiterose]

Okay Ignore what I've said don't comment on it at all then and ask a question that gives you personal satisfaction. Get the police files opened up to the public and we will find out what greg reardon told police.

The fact they went after the only man on the planet with a key, an old man who reads books and not other violent offenders in the area is not enough information for you then I don't know what will be.

[Venturi Swirl]

Okay Ignore what I've said don't comment on it at all then and ask a question that gives you personal satisfaction. Get the police files opened up to the public and we will find out what greg reardon told police.

The fact they went after the only man on the planet with a key, an old man who reads books and not other violent offenders in the area is not enough information for you then I don't know what will be.

There’s no need to get aggressive with me.  Your reasoning is faulty IMO.  The door could have been locked with the keys inside when Tabak pulled the door shut behind him after leaving the apartment, hence Greg rightly stating that thr door was locked when he got home.  Unless you have proof that he claimed the mortise was locked also then you have nothing. 

[Whiterose]

Or am I suposed to reconsider that the went after Chris jeffries because he had whispy  hair and not anything greg reardon said to the police. Which sounds more likely

[Whiterose]

The police quickly ascertained from interviews with greg reardon that joannas killer had access to the keys of the flat.

This is why they went after the landlord. A man with no history of violent crime. An old man who reads books.

My proof is that on the 999 call greg reardon said the flat was locked and from there there would have been follow up questions as to whether he had to open the bottom lock or not.

From the information provided to the police by greg reardon the police went after, not a list if violent offenders but the only man on the planet who had a key.

[Venturi Swirl]

The police quickly ascertained from interviews with greg reardon that joannas killer had access to the keys of the flat.

This is why they went after the landlord. A man with no history of violent crime. An old man who reads books.

My proof is that on the 999 call greg reardon said the flat was locked and from there there would have been follow up questions as to whether he had to open the bottom lock or not.

From the information provided to the police by greg reardon the police went after, not a list if violent offenders but the only man on the planet who had a key.

You’re not making much sense IMO.  How do you work out Greg MUSThave told them the bottom part of the door was locked?  Of course the police were going to suspect someone with keys to the apartment, whether or not the bottom lock was locked..  Whilst I agree that the police treatment of Christopher Jefferies was disgraceful he did have a key and could have let himself in so needed to be investigated.   Do you think the police are so stupid that they blindly accepted that Tabak was able to re-lock the bottom lock but leave the keys within the apartment? 

[Whiterose]

The ommited the fact that greg told them the bottom lock was locked in order to secure a conviction. The even planted child pornography pictures on vincent tabaks laptop. There is no end to what they will do in order to secure a conviction.

They were willing for Chris jeffries  to go down for the murder.

It's not an " of course" that they were going to suspect someone with keys to the apartment. He was treated the way he was because greg reardon told them the bottom lock was locked. Unless they were told that there was no need to suspect the old man upstairs who had a key.

It was because they determined the killer had the access to the keys of her flat that he was treated the way he was. No other reason. If it was an "of course" type of deal landlord's up and down the country would be persecuted for all sorts.

Chris jeffries was a man with no history of violent crime but he became a suspect based on police procedure after they interviewed greg reardon they had probable cause to suspect him.

I dont follow your reasoning that I don't make sense. I'm making perfect sense. You just refuse to see the obvious that it was no turn of ill fate that Chris jeffries was vilified but the direct cause of the statements greg reardon made to police about the locked door that put them blame squarely on the landlord

[Whiterose]

Probable cause = reasonable grounds to suspect of believe

[Venturi Swirl]

The ommited the fact that greg told them the bottom lock was locked in order to secure a conviction. The even planted child pornography pictures on vincent tabaks laptop. There is no end to what they will do in order to secure a conviction.

They were willing for Chris jeffries  to go down for the murder.

It's not an " of course" that they were going to suspect someone with keys to the apartment. He was treated the way he was because greg reardon told them the bottom lock was locked. Unless they were told that there was no need to suspect the old man upstairs who had a key.

It was because they determined the killer had the access to the keys of her flat that he was treated the way he was. No other reason. If it was an "of course" type of deal landlord's up and down the country would be persecuted for all sorts.

Chris jeffries was a man with no history of violent crime but he became a suspect based on police procedure after they interviewed greg reardon they had probable cause to suspect him.

I dont follow your reasoning that I don't make sense. I'm making perfect sense. You just refuse to see the obvious that it was no turn of ill fate that Chris jeffries was vilified but the direct cause of the statements greg reardon made to police about the locked door that put them blame squarely on the landlord

And I don’t follow your reasoning.  Next you’ll be telling me they planted Tabak’s DNA on Joanna’s body.  You obviously believe what you believe despite the complete absence of evidence which is your prerogative but personally I find your views confused at best and contemptible at worst.

[Whiterose]

It was only partial dna that they found then enhanced which means it cannot be independently verified by a third party. Pretty convenient eh? Your personal opinions of me are irrelevant.

[John]

There’s no need to get aggressive with me.  Your reasoning is faulty IMO.  The door could have been locked with the keys inside when Tabak pulled the door shut behind him after leaving the apartment, hence Greg rightly stating that thr door was locked when he got home.  Unless you have proof that he claimed the mortise was locked also then you have nothing.

I have to agree and this certainly sounds the more plausible of the various scenarios. Had the lower mortice lock been deployed I think the investigation might have gone down a different path but there is no evidence in the public domain to show that that happened.

Joanna's killer obviously just pulled the door closed behind him, no need for a key to lock it.

[John]

Can you provide a cite for the bottom lock being locked yes or no?

That's obviously a no. I don't recall any mention of the mortice lock being engaged.

VS makes a valid point, Vincent Tabak admitted the murder so cannot appeal his conviction which rather speaks for itself.

https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/i-killed-joanna-yeates-vincent-tabak-pleads-guilty-to-manslaughter-6398430.html

It is time members of his family accepted the fact that he strangled Joanna in cold blood before bundling her into the boot of his car and dumping her by the side of the road like a piece of trash.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047394/Joanna-Yeates-killer-Vincent-Tabak-shopping-Asda-Jos-body-lay-car-boot.html

[Whiterose]

Then WHY did they go after the landlord and not track a list of violent criminals in the area who could have attacked jo?
They went for the landlord because. He. Had. A. Key. And. The. Perpetrator. Locked. The. Door. With. It.

It's really that damned simple

[John]

Then WHY did they go after the landlord and not track a list of violent criminals in the area who could have attacked jo?
They went for the landlord because. He. Had. A. Key. And. The. Perpetrator. Locked. The. Door. With. It.

It's really that damned simple

There is no evidence the killer locked the door using a key. Indeed there was no need to use a key since the rim lock is self locking.

As for the poor unfortunate landlord, suspicion fell upon him early on for many reasons.

[Whiterose]

The evidence is in the fact the arrested the landlord on suspicion of murderer. Or are you that dim witted that you think they arrested him because he had funny hair. Jesus wept.

[Whiterose]

They arrested the landlord on suspicion of murder because.the.door.was.locked.