Det Sgt Stanley Brian Jones - Trial transcript

[John]

Det Sgt Stanley Brian Jones - Trial transcript

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[John]

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[Angelo222]

I am amazed at the very first words jeremy said to Stan Jones was to call him a 'b........'.   

To be perfectly frank with you I would have done the same.  What a callous b........ is about right.  It just goes to show how far the police have come in 28 years as nowadays the relative would be wrapped in cotton wool and be assigned a support officer.

[Angelo222]

At last we get to the truth of what Jeremy did with the rifle and the magazine the previous evening.  According to Jones, Jeremy took a bullet out of the breech and replaced same in the removed magazine which was then placed on the settle.  The rifle was then placed against the wall in what was assumed to be the scullery.  Jeremy confirmed that he had not fired the rifle that evening.

Bamber also told Taff Jones in the presence of Stan Jones that he didn't take the sights and the silencer off the rifle yet they had been seen on it some days earlier.  Bamber said to them that he assumed his father had done it.  Assumed??

Yet none of Nevill's prints were found on the weapon or the attachments??

[John]

At last we get to the truth of what Jeremy did with the rifle and the magazine the previous evening.  According to Jones, Jeremy took a bullet out of the breech and replaced same in the removed magazine which was then placed on the settle.  The rifle was then placed against the wall in what was assumed to be the scullery.  Jeremy confirmed that he had not fired the rifle that evening.

Bamber also told Taff Jones in the presence of Stan Jones that he didn't take the sights and the silencer off the rifle yet they had been seen on it some days earlier.  Bamber said to them that he assumed his father had done it.  Assumed??

Yet none of Nevill's prints were found on the weapon or the attachments??

Ah but this is where his lies start to come home to roost.  Jeremy told Taff and Stan Jones that when he originally picked up the rifle it was empty as was the magazine.  He told them that he brought out a box containing 50 bullets and left it on the kitchen table.  Now remember that 25 rounds were fired yet 30 bullets remained in the box after the police arrived on the scene.  Bamber was asked to account for the 5 extra rounds - he couldn't!

Stan Jones also confirms calling at the Eatons farm on the 12th August 1985 and being given the silencer by Peter Eaton.  He confirmed that there appeared to be blood and paint on the knurled end along with a short grey hair.  He made reference to the paint matching that in the Bamber's kitchen and went on to explain that the marks were difficult to see in the police photgraphs but could be seen if you looked for them.

It is difficult not to conclude that the silencer was on the rifle when Nevill was assaulted and that the hair found on it belonged to him.

[puglove]

Instead of just being a dodgy ex (?) burglar with a Napoleon complex, why isn't Bamber's besty rich and famous with his own afternoon chat show? He KNOWS where Maddy McCann's body is. He KNOWS where Keith Bennet's body is. He has in his possession two pieces of irrefutable evidence that will ensure Bamber's freedom (when the hour eventually cometh, not today though. Never today.) When he's got a minute, he's going to find a cure for cancer. What a guy.

[John]

Instead of just being a dodgy ex (?) burglar with a Napoleon complex, why isn't Bamber's besty rich and famous with his own afternoon chat show? He KNOWS where Maddy McCann's body is. He KNOWS where Keith Bennet's body is. He has in his possession two pieces of irrefutable evidence that will ensure Bamber's freedom (when the hour eventually cometh, not today though. Never today.) When he's got a minute, he's going to find a cure for cancer. What a guy.

Far from it Shona as both him and the wife have been declared insolvent so God knows what they have been up to.

[John]

Having just read the transcript two other things stand out for me.

When Stan Jones spoke to Jeremy just days after the murders he was more interested in the sequence of deaths than he was about how his family had been wiped out. It was a foregone conclusion as far as he was concerned that Sheila had done it.  Any innocent person would have been questioning these matters but not Jeremy.  He was too busy arranging meetings with the accountant to see what he would get.

It is also bizarre that when he went to Witham to see Stan Jones and senior officers he took Collins along and introduced him as his 'chauffeur'.  The guy was a positive fruit lube!

[John]

That same day after Bamber and Collins had been to Witham Police Station, Stan Jones along with Cook and Miller met up with Ann Eaton at the farmhouse.  The Aga surround was examined and the scratch marks identified. Cook took a sample of the paint for comparison purposes.

[puglove]

Having just read the transcript two other things stand out for me.

When Stan Jones spoke to Jeremy just days after the murders he was more interested in the sequence of deaths than he was about how his family had been wiped out. It was a foregone conclusion as far as he was concerned that Sheila had done it.  Any innocent person would have been questioning these matters but not Jeremy.  He was too busy arranging meetings with the accountant to see what he would get.

It is also bizarre that when he went to Witham to see Stan Jones and senior officers he took Collins along and introduced him as his 'chauffeur'.  The guy was a positive fruit lube!

Greed John,,,,,pure and simple,,,,,I saw it many times when I was a nurse in the Crimean War,,,,,.

[insider]

Having just read the transcript two other things stand out for me.

When Stan Jones spoke to Jeremy just days after the murders he was more interested in the sequence of deaths than he was about how his family had been wiped out. It was a foregone conclusion as far as he was concerned that Sheila had done it.  Any innocent person would have been questioning these matters but not Jeremy.  He was too busy arranging meetings with the accountant to see what he would get.

It is also bizarre that when he went to Witham to see Stan Jones and senior officers he took Collins along and introduced him as his 'chauffeur'.  The guy was a positive fruit lube!

Greed John,,,,,pure and simple,,,,,I saw it many times when I was a nurse in the Crimean War,,,,,.

Golly gosh Shona.....in a past life?   

[Sandy]

It never ceases to amaze me even now how much information can still be acquired in the Bamber case.  I never knew that a chalet had burned down for instance and just before the robbery which Jeremy did.  Coincidence???      8-)(--)

Having just read the transcript two other things stand out for me.

When Stan Jones spoke to Jeremy just days after the murders he was more interested in the sequence of deaths than he was about how his family had been wiped out. It was a foregone conclusion as far as he was concerned that Sheila had done it.  Any innocent person would have been questioning these matters but not Jeremy.  He was too busy arranging meetings with the accountant to see what he would get.

It is also bizarre that when he went to Witham to see Stan Jones and senior officers he took Collins along and introduced him as his 'chauffeur'.  The guy was a positive fruit lube!

[Myster]

That same day after Bamber and Collins had been to Witham Police Station, Stan Jones along with Cook and Miller met up with Ann Eaton at the farmhouse.  The Aga surround was examined and the scratch marks identified. Cook took a sample of the paint for comparison purposes.

..... which was then covered over with a yellow sticker by same, to distinguish it from the actual marks believed to have been caused by the knurled end of the moderator.

[John]

That same day after Bamber and Collins had been to Witham Police Station, Stan Jones along with Cook and Miller met up with Ann Eaton at the farmhouse.  The Aga surround was examined and the scratch marks identified. Cook took a sample of the paint for comparison purposes.

..... which was then covered over with a yellow sticker by same, to distinguish it from the actual marks believed to have been caused by the knurled end of the moderator.

Exactly and here is the photo of same yellow sticker on the underside of the mantle with scratches quite apparent nearby.

[Myster]

Distance Comparison by the shortest routes:

1). Police Station, Newland Street, Witham to the start of Pages Lane. (10.6 miles)
2). Bourtree Cottage, Goldhanger to the start of Pages Lane. (3.6 miles)

The distance (1) looks shorter than (2) only because the maps are to a different scale.

The police car (CA7) had to travel nearly three times as far to Pages Lane than Jeremy Bamber's car*, yet it overtook him on the last stretch of the Tollesbury Road B1023. Jeremy may have taken a slightly longer route by first setting off to the west of his cottage instead of east.

Jeremy Bamber claimed (in front of Colin Caffell, Julie Mugford, Ann Eaton and DC Clark at the cottage) that he drove as fast as he could to WHF in his car (he was normally a fast driver), although he was only travelling at about 30mph when overtaken.

*Wilkes identified it as a Vauxhall Astra, but the case library photo shows Nevill Bamber's car, a Citroen CX 2400, being forensically examined.

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1. Police car CA7 route.

2. Jeremy Bamber's route.