McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[Alice Purjorick]

It depends how good they are and how lucky they are in my opinion.

I agree.
Peter Hogg for example was only caught because of the eventual convergence of two pieces of bad luck.

[Angelo222]

Well even if they were accused by the press of bumbling, that doesn't justify taking it out on the McCanns.   One could think they had a slight advantage for they would know that they had not done what Amaral had said they did.

What interests me more is their alleged involvement after the fact.  Still waiting to hear who instructed Metodo and Correia to go after Amaral and who was funding/sanctioning it?

[misty]

What interests me more is their alleged involvement after the fact.  Still waiting to hear who instructed Metodo and Correia to go after Amaral and who was funding/sanctioning it?

Amaral had already been indicted before Madeleine went missing. Whatever charges he faced were nothing to do with them.

[kizzy]

What interests me more is their alleged involvement after the fact.  Still waiting to hear who instructed Metodo and Correia to go after Amaral and who was funding/sanctioning it?

They were private detectives, hired by the mccann

The agency claims to have around 35 investigators working on the case and is being paid £50,000 a month by the Find Madeleine Fund.

[Angelo222]

Amaral had already been indicted before Madeleine went missing. Whatever charges he faced were nothing to do with them.

We know Correia only got involved in the Cipriano case because M3 were paying him.  Amaral was his target to use the term used by Correia himself.  The Ciprianos were irrelevant, it is no secret that Amaral was the target because of the Maddie case.  Portuguese lawyer John Grade let the cat out of the bag when he revealed the earlier approach by M3 to take Amaral down.

[Angelo222]

They were private detectives, hired by the mccann

The agency claims to have around 35 investigators working on the case and is being paid £50,000 a month by the Find Madeleine Fund.

Hi kizzy.  We have to be careful who we accuse because others were involved in giving orders to these PI's and Everest magnate Kennedy was one of them.

[sadie]

Unless you can back yourself up, with cites, it is meaningless.

No cites were needed

[stephen25000]

No cites were needed

It is when you have pointers.

[slartibartfast]

The discussion is about what the Mccanns KNOW about their non-involvemt and therefore the reasons why they defended themselves against the agressions of the PJ led by Amaral. 

KNOWING that they had done nothing and with Amaral keeping pointing at them, of course they would and still will vigorously defend themselves.   

They needed to be around to look after the Twins and to direct a search for Madeleine, not incarcerated in some jail for something they knew they hadn't done and unable to continue the search.
AIMHO

Opinion as fact, please desist.

[sadie]

Again, a reminder Sadie, you do not know, who or who wasn't involved.

Didn't you notice the AIMHO at the bottom ? 

Well OG seem convinced that Kate and Gerry weren't involved and I will go along with them rather than you ....Soz


But dont let it spoil our happy relationship

[stephen25000]

Didn't you notice the AIMHO at the bottom ? 

Well OG seem convinced that Kate and Gerry weren't involved and I will go along with them rather than you ....Soz


But dont let it spoil our happy relationship

They haven't solved how Madeleine disappeared Sadie.

That is why we keep hearing for over two years, of the final.. final....final...final lead.

[sadie]

I can guarantee any of you in an unsolved missing child case if a cadaver dog alerted to your home, clothes and car (no other car alerted just yours!) then you would also NOT be cleared. It's simple - never cleared because professional police dogs brought in indicated a cadaver. That suggests the source of cadaver scent was the missing child never found.

You have it wrong PFinder.   

It was necessary that both dogs sniffed everything, otherwise it was impossible to tell if Eddie was alerting to the desicated blood from a living person or to Cadavar odour.

Keela did NOT alert to Cadaver Odour, she only alerted to the desicated blood from a living person.

So if Eddie alerted it could be to the desicated blood from a living person.  If Keela alerted too, then as she only alerted to te blood of a living person that ruled out Cadaver odour. 

If she was shown the spots where Eddie alerted and she didn't alert to the place then it COULD be Cadaver Odour.  COULD BE.

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There was ONLY ONE place where Eddie alerted and Keela didn't and that was between the bedhead and wardrobe, so this COULD have been an alert to cadavar Odour.
 
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However Tasmin Silences Grandpa used to live in 5A and his pyjamas would likely have been brought back from the hospital, where he  died.  Would they have cadaver odour on them ?  The likely place where they would have been stored is in the bottom of the wardrobe or between the headboard and the wardrobe, close up to the wall.

Also, what happened to his ashes?   With an elderly widow away from home, in a foreign country, she was likely to have kept them in an urn or box.  And for comforting her, the most likely place was on the bedside table where she could touch the container and feel hubby was still around.


There was NO CADAVER alert in the clothes, nor the car cos Keela did not verify Eddies alert as Cadaver, but as blood from a living person.

There was only one valid alert in the flat and that was in the bedroom, just where the bedside table would have been. 


We have learned on this forum that a dog will alert even to a burned up cadavar


It is my belief that Eddie was alerting to the odour of Tasmins Grandpas ashes.    And there certainly is no reason to go throwing out of date and originally misunderstood opinions about because you dont know..

AIMHO



BTW, It is possible for the odour of desicated blood from a living person to be alerted to even 30 years after the bleed.  Just how many people might have bled in that flat over 30 years.  Even a bleeding mosquito bite could trigger an alert.

[stephen25000]

You have it wrong PFinder.   

It was necessary that both dogs sniffed everything, otherwise it was impossibkle to tell if Eddie was alerting to the desicated blood from a living person or to Cadavar odour.

Keela did NOT alert to Cadaver Odour, she only alertede to the desicated blood from a living person.

So if Eddie alerted it could be the desicated blood from a living person.  If Keela alerted too, then as she only alertted to te blood of a living person that ruled out Cadaver odour. 

If she was shown the spots where Eddie alerted and she didn't alert to the place then it COULD be Cadaver Odour.  COULD BE.

There was ONLY ONE place where Eddie alerted and Keela didn't and that was between the bedhead and wardrobe, so this COULD have been an alert to cadavar Odour.   


However Tasmin Silences Grandpa used to live in 5A and his pyjamas would likely have been brought back from the hospital, wherehe  died.  Would they have cadaver odour on them ?  The likely place where they would have been stored is in the bottom of the wardrobe or between the headboard and the wardrobe, close up to the wall.

Also, what happened to his ashes?   With an elderly widow away from home, in a foreign country, she was likely to have kept them in an urn or box.  And for comforting her, the most likely place was on the bedside table where she could touch the container and feel hubby was still around.


There was NO CADAVER alert in the clothes nor the car cos Keela did not verify Eddies alert as Cadaver, but as blood from a living person.

There was only one valid alert in the flat and that was in the bedroom, just where the bedside table would have been. 


We have learned on this forum that a dog will alert even to a burned up cadavar


It is my belief that Eddie was alerting to the odour of Tasmins Grandpas ashes.    And there certainly is no reason to go throwing out of date and originally misunderstood opinions about .

AIMHO

Have you studied Biochemistry and Forensic Science Sadie ?

[sadie]

Have you studied Biochemistry and Forensic Science Sadie ?

I have read all the Official documents on here, many by Grime, and all the information should be still on forum if you wish to check.

[Robittybob1]

I have read all the Official documents on here, many by Grime, and all the information should be still on forum if you wish to check.

But for the Portuguese to read them they had to be translated first.