Author Topic: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights  (Read 530287 times)

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Offline Angelo222

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2610 on: October 23, 2018, 08:26:18 PM »
So why say it then Davel?   In your hypothetical ECHR case where the McCanns win and the SC changes their judgement do the McCanns get to keep the fund money and Goncalo Amaral must pay them the money they wanted?

No court will ever rule in favour of parents who sadly violated their own child's human rights, refused to cooperate fully with the police charged with finding that child and went out of their way to destroy people who questioned their rather dubious version of events.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2611 on: October 23, 2018, 08:29:24 PM »
No court will ever rule in favour of parents who sadly violated their own child's human rights.
What a silly thing to say.  Were Madeleine’s human rights mentioned as being violated by her parents ever, at any stage of the proceedings?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2612 on: October 23, 2018, 08:39:29 PM »
No court will ever rule in favour of parents who sadly violated their own child's human rights, refused to cooperate fully with the police charged with finding that child and went out of their way to destroy people who questioned their rather dubious version of events.

You obviously  have zero knowledge of the law

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2613 on: October 23, 2018, 08:41:24 PM »
So why say it then Davel?   In your hypothetical ECHR case where the McCanns win and the SC changes their judgement do the McCanns get to keep the fund money and Goncalo Amaral must pay them the money they wanted?

Why say it ?... Because it's a discussion  forum... Where we discuss things....

Offline Angelo222

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2614 on: October 23, 2018, 08:44:38 PM »
What a silly thing to say.  Were Madeleine’s human rights mentioned as being violated by her parents ever, at any stage of the proceedings?

The Judges aren't stupid. The parents have a bloody cheek in seeking human rights when they denied those very same human rights to their daughter the night they went out and left her unprotected.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2615 on: October 23, 2018, 08:51:06 PM »
You obviously  have zero knowledge of the law

The Law in Portugal is influenced very heavily by family values so I am not in the least surprised that both the Portuguese Appeal Court and Supreme Court ruled against the McCanns.

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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2616 on: October 23, 2018, 09:07:36 PM »
The Judges aren't stupid. The parents have a bloody cheek in seeking human rights when they denied those very same human rights to their daughter the night they went out and left her unprotected.
Judges don’t make decisions based on emotional reactions such as those you are exhibiting.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2617 on: October 23, 2018, 09:25:17 PM »
Who knows... I've always said... May not be.... It's just that some don't read the posts properly

Others don't write them properly either.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #2618 on: October 23, 2018, 09:45:46 PM »
Others don't write them properly either.

It's much more important to be able to understand

Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2619 on: October 24, 2018, 07:19:45 AM »
It's much more important to be able to understand

When posters are posting nonsense you mean? i think most people understand that.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2620 on: October 24, 2018, 07:54:10 AM »
When posters are posting nonsense you mean? i think most people understand that.

That's a matter of opinion. It has been accepted ad a fact on this forum that a SC judgement is final and cannot be altered... I believe that is not true... And have provided evidence to support my belief
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Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2621 on: October 24, 2018, 09:06:34 AM »
You should understand  that's a matter of opinion. It has been accepted ad a fact on this forum that a SC judgement is final and cannot be altered... I believe that is not true

You can believe what you like but if you want others to agree with your beliefs you have to provide evidence. It remains to be seen what happens in the Cruz case but in my opinion it won't succeed because;

"The European Court held that, whether or not it should be done, it did not call into question the final outcome of the case"

Ler mais em: https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/tribunal-europeu-dos-direitos-do-homem-da-razao-a-carlos-cruz

The Charlie Gard case wasn't relevant, despite your efforts to suggest it was.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2622 on: October 24, 2018, 09:09:20 AM »
You can believe what you like but if you want others to agree with your beliefs you have to provide evidence. It remains to be seen what happens in the Cruz case but in my opinion it won't succeed because;

"The European Court held that, whether or not it should be done, it did not call into question the final outcome of the case"

Ler mais em: https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/tribunal-europeu-dos-direitos-do-homem-da-razao-a-carlos-cruz

The Charlie Gard case wasn't relevant, despite your efforts to suggest it was.

The very fact that a review is being considered  in the Cruz case is evidence... And the Charlie Gard case, was relevant...

Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2623 on: October 24, 2018, 09:20:14 AM »
The very fact that a review is being considered  in the Cruz case is evidence... And the Charlie Gard case, was relevant...

I suggest you forget those two cases and try to find evidence of a Supreme Court decision being overturned.
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Offline Sunny

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #2624 on: October 24, 2018, 09:26:15 AM »
The very fact that a review is being considered  in the Cruz case is evidence... And the Charlie Gard case, was relevant...

The Cruz case is a criminal case and the Charlie Gard case appears to never being able to succeed and was deemed inadmissible.

There is nothing to stop anyone applying to the ECHR the question appears to be whether they will consider it fully or deem it inadmissible IMO.
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