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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4230 on: February 18, 2021, 08:14:44 PM »
Quote from: jassi on February 18, 2021, 08:12:59 PM
Does low level suggest that it won't go any further, or it's low priority in coming before the court ?

Neither
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Offline barrier

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4231 on: February 18, 2021, 08:15:59 PM »
Quote from: jassi on February 18, 2021, 08:12:59 PM
Does low level suggest that it won't go any further, or it's low priority in coming before the court ?


Its of little legal interest it seems, what ever that means and to whom ?
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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4232 on: February 18, 2021, 08:16:35 PM »
Quote from: Davel on February 18, 2021, 08:14:44 PM
Neither

Then what do you think low importance means?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4233 on: February 18, 2021, 08:18:27 PM »
It explains what it means.. Of little legal interest... Existing case law applies.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4234 on: February 18, 2021, 08:21:23 PM »
I think it looks very good for the McCanns... We will see
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Offline barrier

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4235 on: February 19, 2021, 05:53:55 AM »
Quote from: Davel on February 18, 2021, 08:21:23 PM
I think it looks very good for the McCanns... We will see
To What end ?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4236 on: February 19, 2021, 08:14:46 AM »
Quote from: barrier on February 19, 2021, 05:53:55 AM
To What end ?
If it goes well I believe the McCanns hope they won't have to pay all the costs that they would be liable for.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4237 on: February 19, 2021, 09:36:56 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on February 19, 2021, 08:14:46 AM
If it goes well I believe the McCanns hope they won't have to pay all the costs that they would be liable for.

The costs which they were ordered to pay by the Portuguese courts will not be affected by anything the ECHR decides. They sued Amaral et al and they lost, so they have to pay the costs of those they sued.

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Online Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4238 on: February 19, 2021, 09:41:31 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on February 19, 2021, 09:36:56 AM
The costs which they were ordered to pay by the Portuguese courts will not be affected by anything the ECHR decides. They sued Amaral et al and they lost, so they have to pay the costs of those they sued.

Do they?  May we have a Cite for that.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4239 on: February 19, 2021, 09:46:29 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on February 19, 2021, 09:36:56 AM
The costs which they were ordered to pay by the Portuguese courts will not be affected by anything the ECHR decides. They sued Amaral et al and they lost, so they have to pay the costs of those they sued.
Maybe, but could they counterclaim any action to take the money off them if they win their case in the ECHR?  It's a new one on me, but if the ECHR said the ruling of the SC was wrong, I wouldn't pay either.   Maybe they won't get the money that Amaral should pay them but it will better than paying him.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4240 on: February 19, 2021, 10:00:20 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on February 19, 2021, 09:36:56 AM
The costs which they were ordered to pay by the Portuguese courts will not be affected by anything the ECHR decides. They sued Amaral et al and they lost, so they have to pay the costs of those they sued.
And what if (emboldened by an ECHR ruling in their favour) they refuse?
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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4241 on: February 19, 2021, 10:02:20 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on February 19, 2021, 09:46:29 AM
Maybe, but could they counterclaim any action to take the money off them if they win their case in the ECHR?  It's a new one on me, but if the ECHR said the ruling of the SC was wrong, I wouldn't pay either.   Maybe they won't get the money that Amaral should pay them but it will better than paying him.


Who would they counterclaim against ?

They'd be lucky not to  be held in contempt of court if they refuse to pay costs awarded by the Portuguese court.

IMO
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Online Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4242 on: February 19, 2021, 10:06:11 AM »

Davel?  He's the only one who seems to know anything about this.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4243 on: February 19, 2021, 10:10:46 AM »
Quote from: jassi on February 19, 2021, 10:02:20 AM

Who would they counterclaim against ?

They'd be lucky not to  be held in contempt of court if they refuse to pay costs awarded by the Portuguese court.

IMO
Why haven't they been paid already? 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #4244 on: February 19, 2021, 10:23:20 AM »
Quote from: jassi on February 19, 2021, 10:02:20 AM

Who would they counterclaim against ?

They'd be lucky not to  be held in contempt of court if they refuse to pay costs awarded by the Portuguese court.

IMO
It is already years old?
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