McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[Mr Gray]

I don't need to know details - it's not me that taking guidelines into consideration when determining a verdict.
Nor is it you.

It's me that's making an informed opinion.. Others are uninformed. If you understood how things work you would realise what a strong case the McCanns have

[jassi]

It's me that's making an informed opinion.. Others are uninformed. If you understood how things work you would realise what a strong case the McCanns have

If it's that strong, I would have expected a result long before now.

I think I'll wait for a proper judgement instead of trying second guessing.

[Venturi Swirl]

If it's that strong, I would have expected a result long before now.

I think I'll wait for a proper judgement instead of trying second guessing.

Is it your view then that the weaker the case the longer it takes to get heard?  That’s a novel approach.

[Mr Gray]

If it's that strong, I would have expected a result long before now.

I think I'll wait for a proper judgement instead of trying second guessing.

It would be guessing in your case as you have no knowledge of how the ECHR reach their decisions.  If you've read this thread there's been second guessing from many posters for the past five years.
Seems like sceptics have decided that discussing how something might turn out is a waste if time.. Despite them doing it for the past 14 years... What a laugh they are

[jassi]

It would be guessing in your case as you have no knowledge of how the ECHR reach their decisions.  If you've read this thread there's been second guessing from many posters for the past five years.
Seems like sceptics have decided that discussing how something might turn out is a waste if time.. Despite them doing it for the past 14 years... What a laugh they are

Frankly I'm not interested in how a decision is made, only what the decision is.

Obviously I will be delighted if McCann faces humiliation again, but I have no real problem whatever the result - after all, i't not as I have any personal involvement.

[Venturi Swirl]

Frankly I'm not interested in how a decision is made, only what the decision is.

Obviously I will be delighted if McCann faces humiliation again, but I have no real problem whatever the result - after all, i't not as I have any personal involvement.

Clearly you do have some personal investment in the result otherwise it wouldn’t be likely to provoke such an emotional response.

[Mr Gray]

Frankly I'm not interested in how a decision is made, only what the decision is.

Obviously I will be delighted if McCann faces humiliation again, but I have no real problem whatever the result - after all, i't not as I have any personal involvement.

I think it's a sign of intelligence to want to understand how things work

[sadie]

Meanwhile I have been ghosted.  Wha( a very sorry tale..

I am very upset that Eleanor has been treated so shabbily.  She has worked long hours, with total integrity, for 9 years for John.  She has supported him robustly for years in a totally faithful way arguing against me many times when I have questioned Johns approach in phone calls to her.

For a woman in her eighties to suddenly find via forum that she has been dropped/sacked (call it what you like) without any explanation, discussion or warning sickens me.

Complaints about her were not made by the usual means where she could have defended herself, or if necessary adjusted her approach, but were made by a backdoor route.  Shame on all involved.

Sorry, but I am so angered that I had to say it

Please do not remove this.   Freedom of Speech etc.

[barrier]

I am very upset that Eleanor has been treated so shabbily.  She has worked long hours, with total integrity, for 9 years for John.  She has supported him robustly for years in a totally faithful way arguing against me many times when I have questioned Johns approach in phone calls to her.

For a woman in her eighties to suddenly find via forum that she has been dropped/sacked (call it what you like) without any explanation, discussion or warning sickens me.

Complaints about her were not made by the usual means where she could have defended herself, or if necessary adjusted her approach, but were made by a backdoor route.  Shame on all involved.

Sorry, but I am so angered that I had to say it

Please do not remove this.   Freedom of Speech etc.

Why what happened? El is still here as senior mod, I prefer rockers myself.

[G-Unit]

I am very upset that Eleanor has been treated so shabbily.  She has worked long hours, with total integrity, for 9 years for John.  She has supported him robustly for years in a totally faithful way arguing against me many times when I have questioned Johns approach in phone calls to her.

For a woman in her eighties to suddenly find via forum that she has been dropped/sacked (call it what you like) without any explanation, discussion or warning sickens me.

Complaints about her were not made by the usual means where she could have defended herself, or if necessary adjusted her approach, but were made by a backdoor route.  Shame on all involved.

Sorry, but I am so angered that I had to say it

Please do not remove this.   Freedom of Speech etc.

I would love to know what this so-called backdoor route is. I'm inclined to think it's existence is the product of an over-active imagination.

[Venturi Swirl]

I would love to know what this so-called backdoor route is. I'm inclined to think it's existence is the product of an over-active imagination.

I expect Sadie means by PM, which enables people to complain about and discuss others’ behind their backs.  Were you unaware of this facility?

[G-Unit]

I expect Sadie means by PM, which enables people to complain about and discuss others’ behind their backs.  Were you unaware of this facility?

People can do what they like via PM, but I doubt if action will be taken unless any complaint is valid.

[sadie]

People can do what they like via PM, but I doubt if action will be taken unless any complaint is valid.

Bit of a cowardly attack on another moderator, don't you think, Gunit?

No chance for Eleanor to respond and put her side of the case if she doesn't know about it?  If she had erred, no chance to modify things.  And after nine years of faithful service, whilst being backed by John most of the time.

What a shock for an octarian lady who had given of herself so heartily
Eleanor is full of duty, hard work, integrity and honour.   Yet she was dumped like rubbish.


Would you do that rather underhand sort of thing, Gunit?

[G-Unit]

Bit of a cowardly attack on another moderator, don't you think, Gunit?

No chance for Eleanor to respond and put her side of the case if she doesn't know about it?  If she had erred, no chance to modify things.  And after nine years of faithful service, whilst being backed by John most of the time.

What a shock for an octarian lady who had given of herself so heartily
Eleanor is full of duty, hard work, integrity and honour.   Yet she was dumped like rubbish.


Would you do that rather underhand sort of thing, Gunit?

I am heartily sick of snide comments being directed at me. I was not involved in any way, shape or form in the incident which led to Eleanor's demotion

[Venturi Swirl]

People can do what they like via PM, but I doubt if action will be taken unless any complaint is valid.

You are a master at responding to my posts without actually referencing the point made.  I think this is called “strawman”.  Please stop doing it.