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Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #5115 on: February 08, 2023, 04:51:38 PM »
you obviously dont understand what Carana posted.

She confirms that they are not proven nor facts and in the portuguese system could not be disputed.

So the ECHR based their decision on facts that were not facts  and the McCanns were not able to dispute the lies in the files..Thats an injustice system not a justice system

They were facts that were proved to have appeared in the files.
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Online Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #5116 on: February 08, 2023, 04:59:25 PM »
They were facts that were proved to have appeared in the files.

So any old lie will do as long as it is in The Files.  That is the bottom line and the pits.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #5117 on: February 08, 2023, 05:01:44 PM »
They were facts that were proved to have appeared in the files.
It would perhaps be more accurate to say it is a fact that incorrect information was contained in the files which formed the basis of Amaral’s defamatory book.
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Online Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #5118 on: February 08, 2023, 05:21:57 PM »
It would perhaps be more accurate to say it is a fact that incorrect information was contained in the files which formed the basis of Amaral’s defamatory book.

We all know this of course, even the thickest of Sceptics.  But I don't think it matters all that much anymore.  Madeleine is still in The News and The McCanns will never be indicted for anything.  The incompetence of The Portuguese Justice System has gone a long way to ensure this, so they probably deserve an award for Stupid.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #5119 on: February 08, 2023, 05:41:43 PM »
We all know this of course, even the thickest of Sceptics.  But I don't think it matters all that much anymore.  Madeleine is still in The News and The McCanns will never be indicted for anything.  The incompetence of The Portuguese Justice System has gone a long way to ensure this, so they probably deserve an award for Stupid.

Yes, & she was murdered by Christian Brueckner. That is a proven fact.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #5120 on: February 08, 2023, 06:21:17 PM »
They were facts that were proved to have appeared in the files.

you said you were going to educate instead youve opened yourself to ridicule ....LOL


They were not facts they were lies.  If you cant see that its no wonder youre an anti..

I showed it to  a masters student in international l law..she shard my opinion

Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #5121 on: February 08, 2023, 06:55:59 PM »
So any old lie will do as long as it is in The Files.  That is the bottom line and the pits.

The PJ were told by the British police what the dogs were trained to alert to. I don't think they can be accused of lying when they repeat in the files what they were told.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #5122 on: February 08, 2023, 06:57:17 PM »
It would perhaps be more accurate to say it is a fact that incorrect information was contained in the files which formed the basis of Amaral’s defamatory book.

Provided by the British police.
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Online Eleanor

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« Reply #5123 on: February 08, 2023, 07:18:09 PM »
The PJ were told by the British police what the dogs were trained to alert to. I don't think they can be accused of lying when they repeat in the files what they were told.

Just very stupid.  Eh What.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #5124 on: February 08, 2023, 07:33:34 PM »
Provided by the British police.
The British police told the Portuguese that the cadaver dogs alerted to a dead body in the apartment?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Online Eleanor

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #5125 on: February 08, 2023, 07:43:56 PM »
The British police told the Portuguese that the cadaver dogs alerted to a dead body in the apartment?

I very much doubt that.  Even Martin Grime didn't say that.

Nope, Gunit has got it wrong again.

Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #5126 on: February 08, 2023, 07:55:39 PM »
The British police told the Portuguese that the cadaver dogs alerted to a dead body in the apartment?

Who said that? Not me.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #5127 on: February 08, 2023, 08:20:03 PM »
Who said that? Not me.
what are you talking about then?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #5128 on: February 08, 2023, 08:51:29 PM »
The PJ were told by the British police what the dogs were trained to alert to. I don't think they can be accused of lying when they repeat in the files what they were told.
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The PJ were clearly told it was possible or suggestive that the alerts were to cadavver
They were told no inference could bbe drawn from the alerts
No evidential reliability or valu
As ivee said many times Amaral and the PJ were either liars or stuppid


Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #5129 on: February 08, 2023, 08:52:47 PM »
Yes, & she was murdered by Christian Brueckner. That is a proven fact.

On Portugals standards its a proven fact