Could the Rettendon Two be a potential MoJ.

[Holly Goodhead]

Just listened to Steele's police interviews part 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCNylOuQc5Y

Just to add again someone has narrated a number of vids and claims to be reading original docs verbatim - no checks carried out to verify authenticity.

Venue: Colchester Police Station
Date: 14/05/96
Time: 22.30 - 22.45
Duration: 15 mins
Interviewing Officers: DC Richard Shakespeare and DC Philip Norton

- Firearm seized from Steele's property which was unconnected to murders.  Did he have a firearms licence for the weapon?

- A sum of cash was also seized.  He claims it was a loan to his partner from a relative pending sale of her home.  I believe Steele and his partner were about to sell their current home and purchase another.  She mentions this in his alibi.  I think it more likely the cash was from the proceeds of drug deals.  Significant quantities of cash often represent proceeds of crime/tax evasion.

- Officers put to him that Nicholls said they met at Marks Tey at 6pm on eve of murders.  If this was so and they travelled to Halfway House, Brentwood where Steele supposedly transferred to the Range Rover carrying Rolfe, Tate and Tucker for onward journey to Rettendon this would put him at soc at 7.07pm along with the murdered trio.  According to prosecution the mobile calls between Nicholls/Whomes at 6.59pm represent a call from Whomes to Nicholls for the getaway car.  I assume this is the reason Nicholls account was changed from 6pm to 5pm?  From the CoA doc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCNylOuQc5Y @ 12 min in meet at Marks Tey at 6pm

The arrangement was that Nicholls would meet Steele at Marks Tey at 5.00 o'clock.

Nicholls account is a crock of shite imo.

[Holly Goodhead]

During Steele's interview he was also asked about telephone calls made and received to/from Nicholls and Whomes.  This spans from 12.51 pm to 3.57 pm.  Some of these calls were made on Steele's mobile and others on his landline.  It might well be possible to determine Steele's location during the course of the afternoon from phone data precluding him from making phone calls from the phone boxes.

There's so much hard data here from mobile phone calls made and received that an interactive map should be able to pinpoint the approx location of any given person at the times it was claimed they were here or there doing this and that which would either support the defence or prosecution. 

I'm really struggling to understand the reason why it was only deemed relevant to place under the microscope the two phone calls between Nicholls and Whomes and not all the calls? 

Which lawyers represented Steele and Whomes at trial?

[Holly Goodhead]

@ 19.48 min in Nicholls states after the murders (Dec '95) he told Steele he did not want to "smuggle" but was happy to purchase for his friends.  In May '96 he was caught with 10k of cannabis in the boot of his car.  He was obviously 'Mr Popular' and had a lot of friends 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIXt_Loj2SM

[Holly Goodhead]

Just listened to Steele's police interviews part 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCNylOuQc5Y

Just to add again someone has narrated a number of vids and claims to be reading original docs verbatim - no checks carried out to verify authenticity.

Venue: Colchester Police Station
Date: 14/05/96
Time: 22.30 - 22.45
Duration: 15 mins
Interviewing Officers: DC Richard Shakespeare and DC Philip Norton

- Firearm seized from Steele's property which was unconnected to murders.  Did he have a firearms licence for the weapon?

- A sum of cash was also seized.  He claims it was a loan to his partner from a relative pending sale of her home.  I believe Steele and his partner were about to sell their current home and purchase another.  She mentions this in his alibi.  I think it more likely the cash was from the proceeds of drug deals.  Significant quantities of cash often represent proceeds of crime/tax evasion.

- Officers put to him that Nicholls said they met at Marks Tey at 6pm on eve of murders.  If this was so and they travelled to Halfway House, Brentwood where Steele supposedly transferred to the Range Rover carrying Rolfe, Tate and Tucker for onward journey to Rettendon this would put him at soc at 7.07pm along with the murdered trio.  According to prosecution the mobile calls between Nicholls/Whomes at 6.59pm represent a call from Whomes to Nicholls for the getaway car.  I assume this is the reason Nicholls account was changed from 6pm to 5pm?  From the CoA doc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCNylOuQc5Y @ 12 min in meet at Marks Tey at 6pm

The arrangement was that Nicholls would meet Steele at Marks Tey at 5.00 o'clock.

Nicholls account is a crock of shite imo.

Bearing in mind it is also claimed Nicholls drove Whomes to Rettendon with the pair waiting for Steele to transfer to the Range Rover before onward journey in the VW Passat.   Whomes then had to get out and walk to soc to lie in wait armed with the shotgun ready for the ambush!   

[Holly Goodhead]

TO   
 

06/12/95

14.56

01376551430

NICHOLLS (LANDLINE) MISS R BECKETT

0973427288

NICHOLLS (MOBILE)

06/12/95

14.56

01376551430

NICHOLLS (LANDLINE) MISS R BECKETT

0973427288

NICHOLLS (MOBILE)

06/12/95

15.06

0860843978

STEELE (MOBILE)

0973427288

NICHOLLS (MOBILE)

06/12/95

15.08

0860843978

STEELE (MOBILE)

0836215646

WHOMES (MOBILE)

06/12/95

15.50

0973740923

TATE (MOBILE)

01375480213

ROLFE (LANDLINE) JAGGERS

06/12/95

15.57

01206251979

STEELE (LANDLINE)

0973427288

NICHOLLS (MOBILE)

06/12/95

16.04

01268557679

GARWOOD (LANDLINE) P TATE

01268557679

GARWOOD (LANDLINE) P TATE ALARM CALL

06/12/95

16.36

0973427288

NICHOLLS( MOBILE)

01376551430

NICHOLLS (LANDLINE) MISS R BECKETT

06/12/95

16.39

0973427288

NICHOLLS (MOBILE)

0860843978

STEELE (MOBILE)

06/12/95

17.09

01449766495

WHOMES (LANDLINE)

0836215646

WHOMES (MOBILE)

06/12/95

17.12

0836215646

WHOMES MOBILE

0860843978

STEELE (MOBILE)

06/12/95

18.03

0860843978

STEELE (MOBILE)

0836215646

WHOMES (MOBILE)

06/12/95

18.09

0860843978

STEELE (MOBILE)

0836215646

WHOMES (MOBILE)

06/12/95

18.34

01268458327

SAUNDERS (LANDLINE)

01277260049

MR M J HOOD FLAT 2 BOOTHS COURT HUTTON

06/12/95

18.44

01268458327

SAUNDERS (LANDLINE)

0973740923

TATE (MOBILE)

06/12/95

18.59

0836215646

WHOMES MOBILE

0973427288

NICHOLLS (MOBILE)

06/12/95

19.19

01376551430

NICHOLLS (LANDLINE) MISS R BECKETT

0973427288

NICHOLLS (MOBILE)

06/12/95

19.55

0973427288

NICHOLLS (MOBILE)

01376551430

NICHOLLS (LANDLINE) MISS R BECKETT

06/12/95

20.18

01206251979

STEELE (LANDLINE)

0860843978

STEELE (MOBILE)

06/12/95

20.20

01206251979

STEELE (LANDLINE)

0836215646

WHOMES (MOBILE)

06/12/95

20.27

01268558162

TUCKER (LANDLINE) A M WHITEHEAD

0385317327

TUCKER (MOBILE)

06/12/95

20.36

01268558162

TUCKER (LANDLINE) A M WHITEHEAD

01375480213

ROLFE (LANDLINE) JAGGERS

06/12/95

20.39

01206251979

STEELE (LANDLINE)

0860843978

STEELE (MOBILE)

06/12/95

20.39

01206251979

STEELE (LANDLINE)

0836215646

WHOMES (MOBILE)

06/12/95

21.07

01449766495

WHOMES (LANDLINE)

0836215646

WHOMES (MOBILE)

06/12/95

21.11

01268558162

TUCKER (LANDLINE) A M WHITEHEAD

0385317327

TUCKER (MOBILE)

06/12/95

21.22

01376551430

NICHOLLS (LANDLINE) MISS R BECKETT

0973427288

NICHOLLS (MOBILE)

06/12/95

21.49

0836215646

WHOMES MOBILE

01449766495

WHOMES (LANDLINE)

07/12/95

01.38

01268557679

GARWOOD (LANDLINE) P TATE

01268557679

GARWOOD (LANDLINE) P TATE ALARM CALL

07/12/95

07.48

01375480213

ROLFE (LANDLINE) JAGGERS

01268558162

TUCKER (LANDLINE) A M WHITEHEAD

07/12/95

07.50

01268558162

TUCKER (LANDLINE) A M WHITEHEAD

0385317327

TUCKER (MOBILE)

07/12/95

08.38

01375480213

ROLFE (LANDLINE) JAGGERS

01268558162

TUCKER (LANDLINE) A M WHITEHEAD

07/12/95

09.03

01268558162

TUCKER (LANDLINE) A M WHITEHEAD

01375480213

ROLFE (LANDLINE) JAGGERS

07/12/95

09.05

01376551430

NICHOLLS (LANDLINE) MISS R BECKETT

0973427288

NICHOLLS (MOBILE)

07/12/95

09.24

0836215646

WHOMES MOBILE

0860843978

STEELE (MOBILE)

07/12/95

09.26

01268558162

TUCKER (LANDLINE) A M WHITEHEAD

0385317327

TUCKER (MOBILE)

07/12/95

09.27

0836215646

WHOMES MOBILE

01449766495

WHOMES (LANDLINE)

07/12/95

09.56

01268557679

GARWOOD (LANDLINE) P TATE

01268557679

GARWOOD (LANDLINE) P TATE ALARM CALL

07/12/95

10.42

01449766495

WHOMES (LANDLINE)

sika hope you don't mind but I've taken the liberty of going into your post to highlight the time and date as I was struggling to follow them and imo the phone calls are the most important aspect of this case. 

I've only had a quick skim.  Initial thoughts:

- Seems to me we have incomplete info and/or police have decided what calls to include/exclude to support the prosecution case.  Eg we know from Tucker's voice mail he received 26 messages most of which don't appear in this police schedule?  The first message from Tucker's girlfriend, Anna, states she's round a flat and gives a landline number and yet the first call in the schedule has Anna (assuming she's A M Whitehead) from Tucker's landline?

- It seems to me all 6 were expected home hence the calls from girlfriends/wives on landlines to mobiles. Albeit Steele's alibi involved Jackie Street stating the pair were out together and arrived home at 7.25pm. 

- Did the defence actually authenticate the info provided by third parties eg telecommunication companies or did they just accept at face value the info they were provided by the police?

- I'm still at a complete loss as to why only 2 calls were placed under the microscope.  Which cell/mast was the call routed through that Tate received on his mobile at 18.44 from Sarah Saunders?

- Which cell/mast was the call routed through that Nicholls received on his mobile at 19.19 from Miss R Beckett who I assume was/is Nicholls' partner?

- The defence might have checked out the above and if it supported the prosecution case left well alone? 

[Holly Goodhead]

sika hope you don't mind but I've taken the liberty of going into your post to highlight the time and date as I was struggling to follow them and imo the phone calls are the most important aspect of this case. 

I've only had a quick skim.  Initial thoughts:

- Seems to me we have incomplete info and/or police have decided what calls to include/exclude to support the prosecution case.  Eg we know from Tucker's voice mail he received 26 messages most of which don't appear in this police schedule?  The first message from Tucker's girlfriend, Anna, states she's round a flat and gives a landline number and yet the first call in the schedule has Anna (assuming she's A M Whitehead) from Tucker's landline?

- It seems to me all 6 were expected home hence the calls from girlfriends/wives on landlines to mobiles. Albeit Steele's alibi involved Jackie Street stating the pair were out together and arrived home at 7.25pm. 

- Did the defence actually authenticate the info provided by third parties eg telecommunication companies or did they just accept at face value the info they were provided by the police?

- I'm still at a complete loss as to why only 2 calls were placed under the microscope.  Which cell/mast was the call routed through that Tate received on his mobile at 18.44 from Sarah Saunders?

- Which cell/mast was the call routed through that Nicholls received on his mobile at 19.19 from Miss R Beckett who I assume was/is Nicholls' partner?

- The defence might have checked out the above and if it supported the prosecution case left well alone?

And which cell/mast was the call routed through than Nicholls received on his mobile at 18.59 from Whomes?  Only one of the calls shows up.  They were both timed at 18.59 with durations of 1 sec and 4 secs?

[Holly Goodhead]

Just listened to Steele's police interviews part 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCNylOuQc5Y

Just to add again someone has narrated a number of vids and claims to be reading original docs verbatim - no checks carried out to verify authenticity.

Venue: Colchester Police Station
Date: 14/05/96
Time: 22.30 - 22.45
Duration: 15 mins
Interviewing Officers: DC Richard Shakespeare and DC Philip Norton

- Firearm seized from Steele's property which was unconnected to murders.  Did he have a firearms licence for the weapon?

- A sum of cash was also seized.  He claims it was a loan to his partner from a relative pending sale of her home.  I believe Steele and his partner were about to sell their current home and purchase another.  She mentions this in his alibi.  I think it more likely the cash was from the proceeds of drug deals.  Significant quantities of cash often represent proceeds of crime/tax evasion.

- Officers put to him that Nicholls said they met at Marks Tey at 6pm on eve of murders.  If this was so and they travelled to Halfway House, Brentwood where Steele supposedly transferred to the Range Rover carrying Rolfe, Tate and Tucker for onward journey to Rettendon this would put him at soc at 7.07pm along with the murdered trio.  According to prosecution the mobile calls between Nicholls/Whomes at 6.59pm represent a call from Whomes to Nicholls for the getaway car.  I assume this is the reason Nicholls account was changed from 6pm to 5pm?  From the CoA doc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCNylOuQc5Y @ 12 min in meet at Marks Tey at 6pm

The arrangement was that Nicholls would meet Steele at Marks Tey at 5.00 o'clock.

Nicholls account is a crock of shite imo.

The above interview was undertaken by a DC Richard Shakespeare.  I wonder if this is the same officer who was found guilty of fraud in 2005:

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/former-pc-forged-warrant-card-1-67091

[Holly Goodhead]

Re the tel schedules am I right in thinking they are set out as follows:

- Date

- Time

- Tel no of caller

- Name of caller

- Tel no of receiver

- Name of receiver

and where tel calls are made/received from landlines the name the landline is registered to appears to the left with the name of the person who actually made/received the call to the right?

I don't understand all these calls re a Garwood and P Tate/alarm call?  Also the number 557679 that they pertain to is the same number that Tucker's girlfriend, Anna, left in a tel message on Tucker's mobile referring to it as her old flat?

Tucker's voice mails on his mobile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGpxqhR1PYs @ 4.25

In Donna Jagger's WS she refers to a Donna Garwood as being 1 of 3 girls who accompanied Rolfe and Tucker on the trip to Amsterdam to collect the cash in respect of the dodgy cannabis.  In the same WS she refers to Clare as  a girlfriend of Tate's who was due to attend the night out in Romford on night of murders.

Donna Jagger's WS

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6020.msg508993#msg508993

Phone Schedules

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6020.msg511362#msg511362

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6020.msg511364#msg511364

[Holly Goodhead]

During Steele's interview he was also asked about telephone calls made and received to/from Nicholls and Whomes.  This spans from 12.51 pm to 3.57 pm.  Some of these calls were made on Steele's mobile and others on his landline.  It might well be possible to determine Steele's location during the course of the afternoon from phone data precluding him from making phone calls from the phone boxes.

There's so much hard data here from mobile phone calls made and received that an interactive map should be able to pinpoint the approx location of any given person at the times it was claimed they were here or there doing this and that which would either support the defence or prosecution. 

I'm really struggling to understand the reason why it was only deemed relevant to place under the microscope the two phone calls between Nicholls and Whomes and not all the calls? 

Which lawyers represented Steele and Whomes at trial?

The QC at trial was David Lederman:

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/david-lederman-85542458

He says he wants to use his brain!  He might well start by proof-reading his LinkedIn profile and amend the spelling of his Alma mater!

How can anyone have faith in this conviction when we have:

- 3 corrupt police officers (that we know of!)

and

- a QC who can't even spell/proof-read his Alma mater on his LinkedIn account

 

[Myster]

The QC at trial was David Lederman:

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/david-lederman-85542458

He says he wants to use his brain!  He might well start by proof-reading his LinkedIn profile and amend the spelling of his Alma mater!

How can anyone have faith in this conviction when we have:

- 3 corrupt police officers (that we know of!)

and

- a QC who can't even spell/proof-read his Alma mater on his LinkedIn account

 

Dyslexia?  and also... 'Prepared to travel.speak fluent Freanch.'

[Holly Goodhead]

Dyslexia?  and also... 'Prepared to travel.speak fluent Freanch.'

Yes I noticed that too along with the overall layout/presentation.  I did consider he might be dyslexic but surely he has someone in his life who could proof-read his LinkedIn account which is in effect his sales pitch. 

In any event, as might be expected I guess, Steele was not happy with his legal representation at trial and put a case against his legal representation to the Legal Ombudsman:

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/5530664.Wife_of_convicted_Rettendon_killer_speaks_out/

Here's David Lederman's cv from his days at Carmelite chambers.  Again numerous errors which are perhaps indicative of someone with dyslexia?  Mind you I'm not aware of contract killings taking place outside the criminal fraternity!?  I don't wish to sound pedantic, and my writing skills are decidedly average, but I'm not putting myself out there representing people in criminal trials.  Perhaps age has caught up with him and he's unable or unwilling to accept it. 

http://www.carmelitechambers.co.uk/documents/cv/David_Lederman_CV.pdf

As far as I'm concerned JB's representation at trial and appeal was appalling.  Michael Turner, who represented JB at 2002 appeal is dyslexic:   

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9716069/Devils-advocate-Michael-Turner-prepares-for-his-toughest-case.html

His web page all looks ok apart from he claims the highlight of his career was overturning Michael Hickey's conviction which he has mispelt Hickery.

https://www.gardencourtchambers.co.uk/barrister/michael-turner-qc/

If they aren't seen to be on the ball handling the most basic info can we really have confidence in their ability to put up the best possible defence for their clients whoever they may be?

Steele/Whomes were far from law abiding citizens but that's by the by as to whether or not they carried out the murders.

[sika]

17/05/96 - RECORD OF TAPE RECORDED INTERVIEW of Darren Nicholls


DC BROWN
So getting back roughly to that phone call about 1400 then Darren that that you think that that was on on your way home from from work when you you'd already mentioned to us that he he'd like to meet you

Darren NICHOLLS
Yeah I would be on my way home from work (Pause)

DC WINSTONE
Further on then at 1506 there's another call from STEELE to your on his mobile phone to your mobile phone that's only a short one at fourteen seconds

Darren NICHOLLS
It could be an answering machine message I mean see when I'm coming home from work see what I do I go to work really early and come home quite early yeah that's my to miss the traffic

DC WINSTONE
Alright you mentioned to us before that you were going to a pub in Rainham to see some mates

Darren NICHOLLS
No Rayne

DC WINSTONE
Rayne I beg your pardon

Darren NICHOLLS
Rayne which is like literally Braintree

DC BROWN
Oh I'm sorry I thought you said Rainham before

Darren NICHOLLS
No Rayne

DC BROWN
That's Rayne okay

Darren NICHOLLS
RAYNE

DC BROWN
Yeah well we know Rayne now but

Darren NICHOLLS
I'm sorry yeah

DC BROWN
Okay

Darren NICHOLLS
On our way home from work me and cause I don't go to work on me own like um we always generally shall we go to the pub nar yeah alright then and we'll go in the pub for a couple of beers like literally every night on the way home cause that is a horrible journey and we do like five hours travelling

DC WINSTONE
Well that was going to be my next question if you left a 1400 what sort of time would you've arrived at the pub

Darren NICHOLLS
Oh no I might I might have been on my way by then I mean I'm not saying I left at 1400 I might have been on my way. What we tended to do was leave for work 0500 in the morning and like we could get round to TI by 0630 0645 and then we'd get all out tools in we'd start work the cafe would open at 0730 we'll fly over there and have something to eat and a cup of tea and then we'd work 'til or I we just set targets we'll do that and we'll go home because you know like the job's running over a few months so there's no point in killing it I mean and we all wanted to go home so we sort of set a target and it normally I mean we've left there before 1200 before where we flew in an' done what we've go to do and we'll come back tomorrow and carry on and other times I've been there as late as late as 1500 but generally 1500 was a one off I mean normally 1200 1300 I'm on my way home

DC WINSTONE
Right okay

Darren NICHOLLS
In a an' like my wife thought I worked a long day but I stopped in The Cock at Rayne

DC WINSTONE
Okay so the next the next call the next call is at 1557 and that's a two minute call logged from um STEELE's home address

Darren NICHOLLS
Yeah

DC WINSTONE
To your mobile do you remember that

Darren NICHOLLS
(Pause) to be honest no I don't really I mean I know I spoke to him that day and I know he said to me meet me at Ron PARKINSONS and he was saying to me how quick can you get there what time can you be there sort of thing but I can't remember actual um I can't remember you know conversation if you know what I mean

DC WINSTONE
Right

Darren NICHOLLS
I can't say yeah I remember like um cause I don't I mean I know what happened that day and I know I met him an' I know I can't even remember really approx I mean it must have been it was dark Ron PARKINSONS' was open and they shut at 1800 so I must have been there to meet him before six and Ron PARKINSONS still open cause like I say I I'm pretty sure I bought a motorbike battery that day for my ol' BSA and put it in the motor I was driving which I parked across the road from Ron PARKINSONS. Before I got in his Hi-Lux see like I was there before him and then we sat there an' an' like he said oh yeah well blarr blarr Jack and then Jack pulled up behind us and I didn't notice he said but Jack's behind us

DC WINSTONE
Which pubs did you go into at Rayne

Darren NICHOLLS
Rayne we always go in The Cock, there's only The Welsh Princess or The Cock

DC BROWN
So with that Darren when you went into Ron PARKINSONS' was Mickey there at that time

Darren NICHOLLS
No I'm pretty certain he wasn't there

DC BROWN
No

Darren NICHOLLS
I'd come out with my battery and I'm not sure if he was there

DC BROWN
Did you actually arrange the time or did it or was it

Darren NICHOLLS
Get there as soon as you can there wasn't

DC BROWN
And I'm coming down and I'll meet you there

Darren NICHOLLS
There was a time I mean I just can't think of it it was early I mean Ron PARKINSONS' was open and it was um I don't know

DC BROWN
And that an' you say you bought a new battery

Darren NICHOLLS
Put it in my car

DC BROWN
Put it in your car

Darren NICHOLLS
I think I mean I have bought I I've met him a few times and one of the times I bought a battery and like for some reason I think it was that time

DC BROWN
Are you saying that you've actually met Mickey STEELE at Ron PARKINSONS before

Darren NICHOLLS
Yeah well I like I have met him there before yeah that was a

DC BROWN
So forgetting the incident that happened on the 061200 that we were gonna go into what were the circumstances of you meeting him there at Ron PARKINSONS before

Darren NICHOLLS
Oh when I'd got some money for him things like that and when he when I said like cause I work at Heathrow an' like I do do some long days and he'll ring me up and want to meet me an' talk to me or or get his money off me I'll say to him oh please meet us half way like and he'll alright then I'll meet you at Ron PARKINSONS and he'll say right I'm leaving now you leave now sort of thing

DC BROWN
Right

Darren NICHOLLS
An' so I have met him there before

DC BROWN
Yes but but you

Darren NICHOLLS
I'm always there before him he's always late that bloke

DC BROWN
But you're you're fairly happy in you own mind that it was possibly that occasion when you bought the battery.

Darren NICHOLLS
I'm pretty sure it was that occasion I mean I can't like that's I'm say pretty sure because generally if it was early enough he'd say no come over to me he'd be really like no you can come to me if you see what I mean if it it would have to be quite late like and I'd say look f..k me I got up a 0400 this morning to go to work can't you just meet me and he he'd say yeah okay then like halfway sort of thing you know he wasn't very um he wasn't a very easy person to do like what you wanted it had to be his way that's why I think it was then cause there's not many times I've ever been to Ron PARKINSONS and it's been open I normally look in the window dreaming like you know

DC BROWN
Yeah

Darren NICHOLLS
Thinking I'd like to own one

DC BROWN
Okay so getting back to that and as you appreciate Darren we're when we're gonna have to dissect everything that happens from now on

Darren NICHOLLS
Yeah

DC BROWN
Yeah with within the timescale so that do you you've mentioned before you obviously went there in a vehicle and in previous discussions that you can't remember that have you had any more thoughts on what vehicle that you went there in

Darren NICHOLLS
I can t remember um it sticks in me head that it might've been my firms van

DC BROWN
Which is

Darren NICHOLLS
Um it's an old yellow Toyota Hi-Lux um Hiace a really battered ol' yellow one it's not mine it actually belongs to DWT

DC BROWN
What a pick-up or a van

Darren NICHOLLS
A van

DC BROWN
A van right

Darren NICHOLLS
A battered up ol' van

DC BROWN
And then where do you think you parked it

Darren NICHOLLS
Oh I everytime I ever went to meet him I always parked in the same place apart from

DC BROWN
Which is

Darren NICHOLLS
Um do you know Ron PARKINSONS at all

DC BROWN
Yes

Darren NICHOLLS
Right so you come off of the roundabout

DC BROWN
Yes

Darren NICHOLLS
And you come round the corner to Ron PARKINSONS and as you come round the corner there's some flats on your left that road there. I used to go down there

DC BROWN
There's a little parking area there isn't there

Darren NICHOLLS
I didn't park in the parking area I mean the yellow lines come round that corner and I used to basically turn round and park on the edge of the yellow lines so I was on no yellow lines by the yellow lines do you see what I mean

DC BROWN
Yes yeah I do

Darren NICHOLLS
So I just basically legally parked and then I'd normally go and day dream in the shop window and he'd turn up an'

DC BROWN
Right so get specifically on the 061200 so you park up with the vehicle that you believe may have been the the the Toyota

Darren NICHOLLS
I think it was that as I say I don't know why but i think it was that

DC BROWN
And then you walk across the road and (pause) was Mickey there or do you think you

Darren NICHOLLS
No he wasn't there

DC BROWN
So you've gone over and hung around on the car park of of or the front of PARKINSONS

Darren NICHOLLS
No they were open that's that's why I looked inside and I think I bought a battery but I I have bought a battery from 'em a long time ago but I bought a battery an' um I'm sure I bought it then

DC BROWN
Okay so going back to that

Darren NICHOLLS
And put it back in the van then I think as I'm sort of going back to the van he's pulled up and sort of like bib bib and I had to sort of go hang on a minute I'm putting my battery in cause they say keep it upright for an hour an' a half before you use it sort of thing that's my

DC BROWN
And if and if that obviously was the case then you go back over

Darren NICHOLLS
An' get in his motor

DC BROWN
And get in his car right

Darren NICHOLLS
Right I had the mobile phone with me

DC BROWN
Right and would you just take it from there so you get in to the car and what is the the like the deal or not deal but like you know what's gonna happen as far as you're concerned

Darren NICHOLLS
He said would (pause) I it's difficult I think we're waiting for Jack right I don't know how the conversation come to it and the conversation is we're meeting we're meeting TATEY we're gonna go for a deal with him about we're gonna show him where there's gonna be a Cocaine drop an you see thats what I'm saying in my mind I think he did say to me they wasn't having a deal they're showing 'em where a deal is I'm not certain if he was saying to me there's gonna be a deal on this is where a deals gonna be

DC BROWN
Right now at that time Darren can you cast your mind back and think what you were wearing

Darren NICHOLLS
What I was wearing absolutely no hope these are new boots me old boots are me old boots are newish boots and I'm normally wearing a pair of boots so like I'm thinking that the pair of boots that I might have been wearing would I've been wearing boots yeah cause I didn't change me clothes or nothing like that I go straight from work. Generally work is tracksuit bottoms because you can move like around in these an' you don't sweat as much as jeans just an ol' T-shirt and it would be a pair of boots cause I've never actually owned a pair of trainers 'till about a month ago I've never had a pair for years

DC BROWN
Right and you think that's probably what you were dressed in then do you

Darren NICHOLLS
Ninety nine per cent chance it'll be a

DC BROWN
And an' do you remember what STEELE was wearing

Darren NICHOLLS
No I'm see I know he was wearing overalls but

DC BROWN
No I mean at that time I

Darren NICHOLLS
... put them on yeah

DC BROWN
we don't want to jump forward

Darren NICHOLLS
No I think to be honest with you I think (pause) no I don't I mean I know when we went back to the Hi-Lux he took off overalls and wellies and his shoes (pause) no I think he was just wearing clothes because I presume that this assumption that I'm sure he was just wearing clothes he wasn't like dressed unusually so I thought to meself he's unusually dressed I think he was wearing clothes and probably changed when he parked his Hi-Lux because I supppose if you're gonna show someone in the middle of the dirty old a field where you're gonna have a deal it wouldn't be unusual for them to think oh he's putting a pair of wellies on sort of thing you know.

[sika]

In Nicholls interview above, he mentions purchasing a battery from Ron Parkinson's.  He was able to produce a receipt for this purchase. 

[sika]

Were they all, or at least Whomes and Steele as well-known drug runners / suppliers and especially after the Betts affair not put under surveillance which was withdrawn shortly before the murders?  And that evidence later concealed?

I've not seen any evidence to support the theory that they were under surveillance prior to the murders.

[Holly Goodhead]

I'm just going back to Tucker's voice mail messages on his mobile and the call which I believe is from his girlfriend Anna Whitehead at 4.21 in

"Hi babe only me can you give me a ring round the flat, the flat what I used to be in [number?] [remember?] 557679 yes ring me straightaway yeah, right speak to you in a minute.  If not come round my other flat, I'm round [joy's] [the drive?] at the moment, wanna come round the flat.  I'll be here for the next about 15 minutes alright speak to you in a minute bye".

To my mind the above doesn't make sense.  She's asking him to call her at a flat she's not present at?  She's at Joys or the the drive.  I translated 'drive' but sika had it down as 'Joy's"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGpxqhR1PYs

The number she refers to 557679 is a Basildon landline number registered to someone in the name of Garwood.  Possibly a Donna Garwood who accomapnied Tate and Rolfe to Amsterdam to bring cash back in respect of the dodgy cannabis.  This number feature in the tel schedules.