McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[Angelo222]

Think a little more deeply Gunit.

of course it is about their search for Madeleine and the effect of libels on their children.

If their names are blackened unfairly the funds and support needed for their search will just evaporate.

With no funds and no support their search would be damned

What search??   Lets face it, the only time the McCann's made any attempt at an actual physical search was the morning after she disappeared.  They are a disgrace imho.

[sadie]

What search??   Lets face it, the only time the McCann's made any attempt at an actual physical search was the morning after she disappeared.  They are a disgrace imho.

They are intelligent Angelo.   Why keep physuically searching the same spot that scores of people and they themselves had searched before?

They used their brains and organised other sorts of searches and raising global awareness that Madeleine was missing and they wanted her back

They even managed to get SY (and The PJ again) searching ... now that is a stage way beyond walking around looking themselves.  Even you must agree with that!


We are not made aware any more what is entailed in their searching ... and who can blame them when everything they do is never right and torn to pieces by Trolls?

Maybe they have been instructed by SY to stop actual searching.  We are not party to this information, and why should we be.

[carlymichelle]

What search??   Lets face it, the only time the McCann's made any attempt at an actual physical search was the morning after she disappeared.  They are a disgrace imho.

totally  agree angelo

[Robittybob1]

What search??   Lets face it, the only time the McCann's made any attempt at an actual physical search was the morning after she disappeared.  They are a disgrace imho.

But somehow they have turned it into the most widely known missing person case ever.  I suppose the empty tomb of Jesus of Nazareth might still top it.
I'll have another go:
But somehow they have turned it into the most widely known missing child case ever.  Not bad considering they spent little time looking in the immediate surroundings. 
That suggests they had some idea of where she went, and that was beyond their capability of physically looking IMO. 

[G-Unit]

Think a little more deeply Gunit.

of course it is about their search for Madeleine and the effect of libels on their children.

If their names are blackened unfairly the funds and support needed for their search will just evaporate.

With no funds and no support their search would be damned

The effect of any 'name blackening' on either the funds or their support has already happened. Nothing the ECHR says will, in my opinion, change anyone's minds. 

[G-Unit]

But somehow they have turned it into the most widely known missing person case ever.  I suppose the empty tomb of Jesus of Nazareth might still top it.
I'll have another go:
But somehow they have turned it into the most widely known missing child case ever.  Not bad considering they spent little time looking in the immediate surroundings. 
That suggests they had some idea of where she went, and that was beyond their capability of physically looking IMO.

I would say their PR people turned it into the most widely known missing child case ever, beginning with Bell Pottinger;

The media handling of the story fell to Alex Woolfall from the Bell Pottinger PR group. Set up by Lord Bell - known as Mrs Thatcher's favourite adman for his work for the Conservatives - one of the services Bell Pottinger offers is "crisis management".

The holiday company Mark Warner - owners of the Ocean Club resort from where the four-year-old was taken - already retains one of Bell Pottinger's companies, Resonate, for ordinary PR. But when the scale of the story became apparent, Mr Woolfall, whose job title is "head of issues and crisis management", was immediately sent to Portugal with a support team.

His task there was to shield the family by ensuring a controlled but regular supply of statements and images. The PR company operates the equivalent of a 24-hour newsroom and one of its key roles is to anticipate media needs as well as react to inquiries. It was noticeable that on days when little appeared to be happening in Praia da Luz, the parents would on occasion walk before the cameras without speaking. It sounds a simple detail, but even that is enough to give the cameras fresh picture and enough to update a news bulletin.

A Mark Warner company official told The Scotsman: "Alex Woolfall is very experienced and was a fantastic asset to the family. "What Kate and Gerry wanted to do was to get this on the news agenda and make this as big as possible, so that people don't forget."
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/1may7/SCOTSMAN_18_05_07.htm

[misty]

I would say their PR people turned it into the most widely known missing child case ever, beginning with Bell Pottinger;

The media handling of the story fell to Alex Woolfall from the Bell Pottinger PR group. Set up by Lord Bell - known as Mrs Thatcher's favourite adman for his work for the Conservatives - one of the services Bell Pottinger offers is "crisis management".

The holiday company Mark Warner - owners of the Ocean Club resort from where the four-year-old was taken - already retains one of Bell Pottinger's companies, Resonate, for ordinary PR. But when the scale of the story became apparent, Mr Woolfall, whose job title is "head of issues and crisis management", was immediately sent to Portugal with a support team.

His task there was to shield the family by ensuring a controlled but regular supply of statements and images. The PR company operates the equivalent of a 24-hour newsroom and one of its key roles is to anticipate media needs as well as react to inquiries. It was noticeable that on days when little appeared to be happening in Praia da Luz, the parents would on occasion walk before the cameras without speaking. It sounds a simple detail, but even that is enough to give the cameras fresh picture and enough to update a news bulletin.

A Mark Warner company official told The Scotsman: "Alex Woolfall is very experienced and was a fantastic asset to the family. "What Kate and Gerry wanted to do was to get this on the news agenda and make this as big as possible, so that people don't forget."
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/1may7/SCOTSMAN_18_05_07.htm

Bell-Pottinger were not employed by the McCanns in Luz. They were there to protect the reputation of MW so it would hardly have been in their interest to "promote" the disappearance of a child from one of their resorts.

[stephen25000]

Bell-Pottinger were not employed by the McCanns in Luz. They were there to protect the reputation of MW so it would hardly have been in their interest to "promote" the disappearance of a child from one of their resorts.

That company were paid £500,000 in advance to keep the McCann's in the news for at least one year (I believe).

Which says a great deal.

[G-Unit]

Bell-Pottinger were not employed by the McCanns in Luz. They were there to protect the reputation of MW so it would hardly have been in their interest to "promote" the disappearance of a child from one of their resorts.

There have been stories suggesting they were lulled into a false sense of security and that burglaries and even sexual attacks on children were kept quiet. I think Woolfall was long gone by then though.

[G-Unit]

Mixed messages as McCanns bid to take three-time court defeat to new appeal

There are multiple mixed messages as the parents of missing Madeleine McCann are reported to be taking their three-time court defeat in Portugal to the very last point of appeal: the European Court of Human Rights.

British tabloids are already presenting the new situation as ‘a given’ - the Mail for example, claims “it is understood that the result of the appeal will not be known for at least four years”.

But the truth is that it may not even get accepted.

The ECHR website carries no details of the action (believed to have been lodged in July) for the simple reason that it must first be considered to merit this final avenue of legal recourse - an outcome many believe is unlikely.

The reasons for this is that the 75-page judgement the McCann parents are challenging - handed down by Portugal’s highest court - cited tenets set out by the ECHR, not to mention rights enshrined in the Portuguese Constitution.

As a source explained, “the parents have been told three times that the theory published by former PJ police coordinator Gonçalo Amaral did not overstep the bounds of freedom of expression”.

“Furthermore, the UK press fails to understand that Maddie’s parents can only make a case against the Portuguese state, and not against an individual person.

“For Gonçalo Amaral, the case is over. Done and dusted. He won, and the McCanns can’t ignore the decision simply because they are going to the ECHR”.

“Maddie: A Verdade da Mentira” (Maddie: The Truth of the Lie) is back on sale and has purportedly been published and translated in France, the Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Spain and Belgium.

An English translation has been available online for years, and “read by millions” (click here).

But according to the UK Sun - which led with an ‘exclusive’ yesterday on what it is calling “a last ditch appeal” against a “shameless ex police chief” - the reasons for the McCann’s new legal bid lie not simply in the fact that they “are desperately upset at Amaral’s claims”, but also that they are “shattered” that Portugal’s top judges did not accept that they had “successfully proved their innocence”.

This was perhaps the most devastating outcome of the Supreme Court ruling, and one which saw UK tabloids go into overdrive (click here).

In other words, this is no longer a fight against what the Sun terms “the outrageous slurs of the Truth of the Lie”, but a battle now against Portuguese Justice.

As a legal source has commented: "The McCanns have effectively to prove that the Supreme Court made a massive mistake".

The appeal bid could also be seen as another way of stalling the hugely expensive outcome of all these years of painful litigation.

The Sun explains: “So far no money has been paid by either party”.

In January, the Mail suggested that the McCanns “could now face financial ruin as they face paying Gonçalo Amaral huge court costs and could be sued themselves by the former policeman”.

Amaral, for the time being, is keeping his counsel.

Marking the 10-years since Madeleine’s disappearance during a family holiday in Praia da Luz, he gave a series of interviews to the Cofina media group in which he repeated his theory, as set out in the ‘Truth of the Lie’, explaining all the reasons for it (click here).

Since then he has kept a low profile.

Meantime, the Metropolitan Police are seeking renewed funding for Operation Grange - the probe that has already cost over £11 million looking for answers in this unparalleled case (click here), while streaming service Netflix is said to be making a new eight-part documentary on Madeleine’s disappearance, interviewing “key figures and investigators”.

Parents Kate and Gerry have “refused to be involved”, writes the Sun - highlighting the word refused in capitals.

The McCann’s reasoning, says the tabloid, is that Grange “is still active” - though a decision on whether or not to extend funding, and therefore keep Grange alive, has yet to be made public.

Ten years and four months on, and the disappearance of Madeleine McCann shows absolutely no sign of disappearing.

natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
http://portugalresident.com/mixed-messages-as-mccanns-bid-to-take-three-time-court-defeat-to-new-appeal

If the McCann's are relying on the ECHR ruling on the archive dispatch they could be disappointed. It doesn't rule on national laws.

[Angelo222]

It's a pleasant change to see the press getting their insight from here instead of vice versa.  Amaral is indeed keeping his powder dry, after all, he is in a win win situation.

[Alice Purjorick]

Mixed messages as McCanns bid to take three-time court defeat to new appeal

There are multiple mixed messages as the parents of missing Madeleine McCann are reported to be taking their three-time court defeat in Portugal to the very last point of appeal: the European Court of Human Rights.

British tabloids are already presenting the new situation as ‘a given’ - the Mail for example, claims “it is understood that the result of the appeal will not be known for at least four years”.

But the truth is that it may not even get accepted.

The ECHR website carries no details of the action (believed to have been lodged in July) for the simple reason that it must first be considered to merit this final avenue of legal recourse - an outcome many believe is unlikely.

The reasons for this is that the 75-page judgement the McCann parents are challenging - handed down by Portugal’s highest court - cited tenets set out by the ECHR, not to mention rights enshrined in the Portuguese Constitution.

As a source explained, “the parents have been told three times that the theory published by former PJ police coordinator Gonçalo Amaral did not overstep the bounds of freedom of expression”.

“Furthermore, the UK press fails to understand that Maddie’s parents can only make a case against the Portuguese state, and not against an individual person.

“For Gonçalo Amaral, the case is over. Done and dusted. He won, and the McCanns can’t ignore the decision simply because they are going to the ECHR”.

“Maddie: A Verdade da Mentira” (Maddie: The Truth of the Lie) is back on sale and has purportedly been published and translated in France, the Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Spain and Belgium.

An English translation has been available online for years, and “read by millions” (click here).

But according to the UK Sun - which led with an ‘exclusive’ yesterday on what it is calling “a last ditch appeal” against a “shameless ex police chief” - the reasons for the McCann’s new legal bid lie not simply in the fact that they “are desperately upset at Amaral’s claims”, but also that they are “shattered” that Portugal’s top judges did not accept that they had “successfully proved their innocence”.

This was perhaps the most devastating outcome of the Supreme Court ruling, and one which saw UK tabloids go into overdrive (click here).

In other words, this is no longer a fight against what the Sun terms “the outrageous slurs of the Truth of the Lie”, but a battle now against Portuguese Justice.

As a legal source has commented: "The McCanns have effectively to prove that the Supreme Court made a massive mistake".

The appeal bid could also be seen as another way of stalling the hugely expensive outcome of all these years of painful litigation.

The Sun explains: “So far no money has been paid by either party”.

In January, the Mail suggested that the McCanns “could now face financial ruin as they face paying Gonçalo Amaral huge court costs and could be sued themselves by the former policeman”.

Amaral, for the time being, is keeping his counsel.

Marking the 10-years since Madeleine’s disappearance during a family holiday in Praia da Luz, he gave a series of interviews to the Cofina media group in which he repeated his theory, as set out in the ‘Truth of the Lie’, explaining all the reasons for it (click here).

Since then he has kept a low profile.

Meantime, the Metropolitan Police are seeking renewed funding for Operation Grange - the probe that has already cost over £11 million looking for answers in this unparalleled case (click here), while streaming service Netflix is said to be making a new eight-part documentary on Madeleine’s disappearance, interviewing “key figures and investigators”.

Parents Kate and Gerry have “refused to be involved”, writes the Sun - highlighting the word refused in capitals.

The McCann’s reasoning, says the tabloid, is that Grange “is still active” - though a decision on whether or not to extend funding, and therefore keep Grange alive, has yet to be made public.

Ten years and four months on, and the disappearance of Madeleine McCann shows absolutely no sign of disappearing.

natasha.donn@algarveresident.com
http://portugalresident.com/mixed-messages-as-mccanns-bid-to-take-three-time-court-defeat-to-new-appeal

If the McCann's are relying on the ECHR ruling on the archive dispatch they could be disappointed. It doesn't rule on national laws.

Except in "The PdL Bubble" 

[misty]

Except in "The PdL Bubble" 

Yet if Portugal had exercised their own laws, Amaral would have lost.

[stephen25000]

Yet if Portugal had exercised their own laws, Amaral would have lost.

Really.

Meanwhile.....

...just as a reminder.



'Former minister of internal affairs Rui Pereira slammed Portuguese cops for not making Kate, 48, and 47-year-old dad Gerry suspects for abandonment.'

'Moita Flores, a former police chief, backed his countryman, Pereira and told the show that if Kate and Gerry had been Portuguese, they would have been arrested for abandonment.'

[Alice Purjorick]

Yet if Portugal had exercised their own laws, Amaral would have lost.

Really? would you care to demonstrate that.