Why was Yvonne Martin's offer of help dismissed so readily?

[Erngath]

I'm smiling at your impression that every hour was pressing on her.

Eh?
Did I use that word?

[Sunny]

So it was Yvonne Martin who told the McCann's to be careful what they said.

I find Yvonne Martins statements to be quite odd,   at first she's chatting away to the McCann's then as soon as they decide not to speak to her anymore,   her statement seems to get quite different,   she says that she recognises David Payne,   describes him as having a scar on his face [does he?]  and that the McCann's were aggressive before she showed her credentials,  she doesn't say that at first.

Or does she Lace. From her statement.

- At around 09H00, she met the McCann couple next to the apartment from where the child had disappeared, accompanied by a third person, a male, who seemed quite familiar to her.

- This third person of the group appeared to be an intimate (friend) of the family as he was the one who, when the media arrived, began to explain what was happening and answering questions, thereby saving the couple from this upset. Afterwards, she further confirmed his closeness to the family when she saw him taking care of the couple's twins, also small children.

She mentions David Payne prior to her talking with Kate McCann as she goes on to say

She identified herself and presented her credentials and immediately began talking to the mother of the missing child as she was visibly upset with the situation.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/YVONNE-WARREN-MARTIN.htm

[Robittybob1]

13 hours since she went missing - it was 10am - truth in that statement and it connects to Smithman again LOL. Smithman corroborates everything!

"At this point, Kate told her that her daughter had disappeared 13 hours ago. It was about 10 in the morning."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/YVONNE-WARREN-MARTIN.htm

If Kate thought she had been taken just after 9:00 PM the maths is correct.

[faithlilly]

We only have some other woman's word for it, maybe she misheard or misremembered?

Again ? You have to wonder how this woman ever became a social worker. With her hearing problems and memory loss bordering on dementia it’s a wonder she ever got anyone to employ her.

[Venturi Swirl]

Again ? You have to wonder how this woman ever became a social worker. With her hearing problems and memory loss bordering on dementia it’s a wonder she ever got anyone to employ her.

I haven’t referenced hearing problems or memory loss or dementia, just common or garden misremebering or mis-hearing, such as you might experience on a daily basis.

[faithlilly]

I haven’t referenced hearing problems or memory loss or dementia, just common or garden misremebering or mis-hearing, such as you might experience on a daily basis.

Misheard, how ? She was feet away. Misremembered in what way ? She is a professional trained to assimilate information quickly.

[pathfinder73]

If Kate thought she had been taken just after 9:00 PM the maths is correct.

The window was only reported to be open on her check at 10. The window was closed on prior checks at 9 and 9:30 so why would she be thinking the abduction was at 9pm?

[misty]

Misheard, how ? She was feet away. Misremembered in what way ? She is a professional trained to assimilate information quickly IN MY OPINION.

IYO what action could YM have taken following receipt of any information she gleaned from the McCanns?

[faithlilly]

IYO what action could YM have taken following receipt of any information she gleaned from the McCanns?

I’m not entirely clear why supporters are so against a rather kind lady, trained in helping families deal with the most awful traumas, forgoing her own holiday to offer help in whatever way she could. Further Kate obviously felt comfortable enough at first to talk to her and give her some pertinent information.

[misty]

I’m not entirely clear why supporters are so against a rather kind lady, trained in helping families deal with the most awful traumas, forgoing her own holiday to offer help in whatever way she could. Further Kate obviously felt comfortable enough at first to talk to her and give her some pertinent information.

I asked you what action she thought she could have taken, bearing in mind she must have known she had no jurisdiction & didn't even speak Portuguese.

[Sunny]

I asked you what action she thought she could have taken, bearing in mind she must have known she had no jurisdiction & didn't even speak Portuguese.

I would think that Yvonne Martin went into social work because she wanted to help children and families.  She went to Praia Da Luz to help the McCanns.

I have an immense respect for social workers as I believe their profession is a very hard and stressful one. They are dedicated professionals who's aim is to protect children and help families cope with very difficult circumstances.

Read this please http://www.socialworker.com/feature-articles/practice/a-social-worker-s-thoughts-on-child-protection-social-work/

IMO Yvonne Martin didn't need jurisdiction nor did she need to speak Portuguese to help the McCanns, even in a small way to cope with what had happened.  She didn't get the chance to do that, that is not her fault.   If you read the link you will see what I mean.

[Venturi Swirl]

Misheard, how ? She was feet away. Misremembered in what way ? She is a professional trained to assimilate information quickly.

You have neve misheard what someone has said, who was talking to you?  You have never misremembered what they said?  Is Yvonne human or android?

[Robittybob1]

The window was only reported to be open on her check at 10. The window was closed on prior checks at 9 and 9:30 so why would she be thinking the abduction was at 9pm?

Kate linked it to Jane's sighting.  Around 9:15.

Matt has no idea if the window is open or closed as it is behind the closed curtains.

[G-Unit]

It's interesting how witnesses report what they think is important rather than reporting a situation and conversation in full.

Mrs Martin reports three people being present, Len Port mentions just her and Kate.
Mrs Martin says David Payne spoke to the media, which probably means Len Port. Len Port doesn't mention that.
Mrs Martin doesn't mention Kate's opinion that the police were 'doing nothing' but Len Port does.

[Brietta]

I would think that Yvonne Martin went into social work because she wanted to help children and families.  She went to Praia Da Luz to help the McCanns.

I have an immense respect for social workers as I believe their profession is a very hard and stressful one. They are dedicated professionals who's aim is to protect children and help families cope with very difficult circumstances.

Read this please http://www.socialworker.com/feature-articles/practice/a-social-worker-s-thoughts-on-child-protection-social-work/

IMO Yvonne Martin didn't need jurisdiction nor did she need to speak Portuguese to help the McCanns, even in a small way to cope with what had happened.  She didn't get the chance to do that, that is not her fault.   If you read the link you will see what I mean.

If an English detective inspector had been holidaying a couple of miles down the coast what action do you think would have been dictated by dint of his/her desire to help using professional training?

Do you consider it would it have been appropriate for that person to approach witnesses waving a warrant card and attempt to interview them privately?