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Offline G-Unit

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #300 on: December 01, 2018, 04:42:09 PM »
I'm wondering if someone else paid for this on behalf of the McCanns.  i.e. not their decision.

In her book Kate McCann tells us all about the wealthy people who paid out to help them, so why wouldn't she tell us if someone paid £500,000 to Bell Pottinger to help them publicise their 'search'?

What Kate doesn't give us are clear details of what the fund paid out.



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Offline Brietta

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #301 on: December 01, 2018, 09:15:18 PM »
In her book Kate McCann tells us all about the wealthy people who paid out to help them, so why wouldn't she tell us if someone paid £500,000 to Bell Pottinger to help them publicise their 'search'?

What Kate doesn't give us are clear details of what the fund paid out.

Isn't that Enid O'Dowd's job?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #302 on: December 01, 2018, 09:20:26 PM »
I'm wondering if someone else paid for this on behalf of the McCanns.  i.e. not their decision.

Do you seriously give any credence to allegations that the McCanns had to pay anyone to keep Madeleine's name on the front pages, Robitty? 
I most certainly don't.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Montclair

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #303 on: December 01, 2018, 09:50:29 PM »
Do you seriously give any credence to allegations that the McCanns had to pay anyone to keep Madeleine's name on the front pages, Robitty? 
I most certainly don't.

Of course, I do and it wasn't to keep Madeleine's name on the front pages, it was to keep their names.

Offline Brietta

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #304 on: December 01, 2018, 10:12:53 PM »
Of course, I do and it wasn't to keep Madeleine's name on the front pages, it was to keep their names.

Their names ???  Why would you think that?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #305 on: December 01, 2018, 10:50:15 PM »
Do you seriously give any credence to allegations that the McCanns had to pay anyone to keep Madeleine's name on the front pages, Robitty? 
I most certainly don't.
I personally think someone was looking to keep the focus on the McCanns to kept the focus away from the perpetrators.
Whoever paid Lord Bell is a suspect IMO.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #306 on: December 01, 2018, 11:02:17 PM »
I personally think someone was looking to keep the focus on the McCanns to kept the focus away from the perpetrators.
Whoever paid Lord Bell is a suspect IMO.

Even if it true, that it was the McCanns as Tim Bell said?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #307 on: December 01, 2018, 11:17:36 PM »
I personally think someone was looking to keep the focus on the McCanns to kept the focus away from the perpetrators.
Whoever paid Lord Bell is a suspect IMO.

I agree.

Repeating some of the tabloid headlines particularly the Portuguese although ours were no better, is to perpetuate one calumny after another;  so the object of the exercise was not to enhance reputations but to destroy them.

If Lord Bell is claiming credit for that bout of character assassination ... it would make me wonder how good his firm actually was at Public Relations?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #308 on: December 01, 2018, 11:23:21 PM »
Even if it true, that it was the McCanns as Tim Bell said?

See my post above.

If Lord Bell's claim can be substantiated, as far as PR was concerned it was a total failure and if his firm worked for the McCanns they are surely due a refund for proven incompetence.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #309 on: December 01, 2018, 11:24:25 PM »
I agree.

Repeating some of the tabloid headlines particularly the Portuguese although ours were no better, is to perpetuate one calumny after another;  so the object of the exercise was not to enhance reputations but to destroy them.

If Lord Bell is claiming credit for that bout of character assassination ... it would make me wonder how good his firm actually was at Public Relations?
I'd like to see where the funds actually came from.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #310 on: December 01, 2018, 11:41:23 PM »
I'd like to see where the funds actually came from.

I don't think there is anything at all suspicious about it at all.

Apparently Bell Pottinger were retained by Mark Warner.  Missing child = really bad publicity for a holiday firm.

Like everything else connected with Madeleine's disappearance unfriendly individuals have merely seized an opportunity to take the ramblings of an individual to add 2+ 2 to get 200 trillion adverse comments aimed at their favourite whipping boys posted on the internet.


Mark Warner Hires Bell Pottinger

May 09, 2007

Mark Warner, the holiday company at the centre of the Portuguese kidnap story, is using the Bell Pottinger Group for help with the crisis.

Head of issues and crisis management Alex Woolfall is on location in Portugal and reports directly to MD ­David Hopkins.

Mark Warner brought in Resonate on a generic brief a week before three-year-old Madeleine McCann was kidnapped from its Portuguese resort in Praia da Luz. MD Michael Froh­lich then referred the firm to his parent company’s crisis specialist.

Frohlich and Resonate dir­ector Tricia Moon are helping liaise with the British Consulate in Portugal, the Portuguese Police and the Portuguese and UK media.

They are working with staff at Mark Warner’s Kensington headquarters.

https://www.prweek.com/article/656479/mark-warner-hires-bell-pottinger
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Sunny

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #311 on: December 02, 2018, 08:24:59 AM »
And yet, from Owen Jones' book.

From: ‘The Establishment: and how they get away with it’
by Owen Jones Published by Penguin 1 March 2015
(Lord Bell is commenting on the ‘Hacked Off’ campaign. )
‘Attempts to scrutinize the Murdoch empire were fiercely resisted by its allies in the British elite, who contrived to say they didn’t understand what the fuss was about. ‘I don’t want to know what happened to the Dowler family, and I’m very sorry, but honestly I can’t get into a state about it, says Lord Bell, Thatcher’s former advisor, chairman of PR giant Bell Pottinger, and a close ally of the Murdoch empire. He has long given Rupert Murdoch PR advice, and advised Rebekah Brooks during the phone-hacking scandal. ‘And I’m really not interested in what the McCanns think, because the McCanns paid me £ 500,000 in fees to keep them on the front page of every single newspaper for a year, which we did.’


http://fytton.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-press-and-mccanns.html

Have the McCanns ever refuted this? I mean the McCanns themselves, not their supporters.

Also I find the rest of the page on that blog very interesting.  I hadn't seen it before.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #312 on: December 02, 2018, 03:14:14 PM »
And yet, from Owen Jones' book.

From: ‘The Establishment: and how they get away with it’
by Owen Jones Published by Penguin 1 March 2015
(Lord Bell is commenting on the ‘Hacked Off’ campaign. )
‘Attempts to scrutinize the Murdoch empire were fiercely resisted by its allies in the British elite, who contrived to say they didn’t understand what the fuss was about. ‘I don’t want to know what happened to the Dowler family, and I’m very sorry, but honestly I can’t get into a state about it, says Lord Bell, Thatcher’s former advisor, chairman of PR giant Bell Pottinger, and a close ally of the Murdoch empire. He has long given Rupert Murdoch PR advice, and advised Rebekah Brooks during the phone-hacking scandal. ‘And I’m really not interested in what the McCanns think, because the McCanns paid me £ 500,000 in fees to keep them on the front page of every single newspaper for a year, which we did.’


http://fytton.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-press-and-mccanns.html

Have the McCanns ever refuted this? I mean the McCanns themselves, not their supporters.

Also I find the rest of the page on that blog very interesting.  I hadn't seen it before.

Why should they?

Were they to contest every bit of misinformation regarding them which hits the headlines they would have time do little else.

It certainly seemed to have died the death anyway with MSM in the main paying it the attention it deserved and leaving it for internet posters to get outraged about.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #313 on: December 02, 2018, 03:27:38 PM »
Why should they?

Were they to contest every bit of misinformation regarding them which hits the headlines they would have time do little else.

It certainly seemed to have died the death anyway with MSM in the main paying it the attention it deserved and leaving it for internet posters to get outraged about.

Is anybody getting outraged? I hadn't noticed.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Aftermath of the Leveson Inquiry
« Reply #314 on: December 02, 2018, 03:32:07 PM »
Why should they?

Were they to contest every bit of misinformation regarding them which hits the headlines they would have time do little else.

It certainly seemed to have died the death anyway with MSM in the main paying it the attention it deserved and leaving it for internet posters to get outraged about.

Do you think Lord Bell is lying or do you think the McCanns did pay half a million pounds to have their faces on the front of newspapers?
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