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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Brietta on May 19, 2015, 11:29:01 AM
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The PJ certainly had a bee in their bonnet regarding the fact that the media had been informed of Madeleine's disappearance ... it remains one of the shibboleths promulgated on the internet by those who know nothing.
24 Did you know of any danger of calling the media alerting them of the abduction, since this could influence the
abductor?
In what way was that relevant to an ongoing search for Madeleine ... and what sort of question was that to ask a mother who was almost out of her mind with anxiety on the night her daughter disappeared and who had no hand in contacting the media anyway?
As everyone knows the media is invaluable when a child goes missing ... just as time is of the essence. The PJ had an inbuilt suspicion of publicity and scant knowledge of procedures when a child goes missing ... they also had an inbuilt prejudice regarding Kate McCann.
She was correct to say nothing. I doubt very much if the 48 were the only questions the PJ had in mind ... I am sure that depending on her answers many supplementary questions would have been asked ... and I think the nuances and interpretation of those were to be the ace in the hole ~ hence the outrage when she exercised her right.
All previous studies have shown that public manhunt pressure does not cause that the offender commits an irrational act and the child would have been injured or killed. Either the child was dead already at the time when the investigation was initiated, or it could be saved, because a witness had reported.
The higher the wanted pressure, the more likely undermine the offender error.
A few hours can decide whether a child stays alive or not.
Lars Bruhns "Initiative for Missing Children"
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article140999141/Die-Situation-erinnert-an-den-Fall-Maddie-McCann.html
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The PJ certainly had a bee in the bonnet regarding the fact that the media had been informed of Madeleine's disappearance ... it remains one of the shibboleths promulgated on the internet by those who know nothing.
24 Did you know of any danger of calling the media alerting them of the abduction, since this could influence the
abductor?
In what way was that relevant to an ongoing search for Madeleine ... and what sort of question was that to ask a mother who was almost out of her mind with anxiety on the night her daughter disappeared and who had no hand in contacting the media anyway?
As everyone knows the media is invaluable when a child goes missing ... just as time is of the essence. The PJ had an inbuilt suspicion of publicity and scant knowledge of procedures when a child goes missing ... they also had an inbuilt prejudice regarding Kate McCann.
She was correct to say nothing. I doubt very much if the 48 were the only questions the PJ had in mind ... I am sure that depending on her answers many supplementary questions would have been asked ... and I think the nuances and interpretation of those were to be the ace in the hole ~ hence the outrage when she exercised her right.
All previous studies have shown that public manhunt pressure does not cause that the offender commits an irrational act and the child would have been injured or killed. Either the child was dead already at the time when the investigation was initiated, or it could be saved, because a witness had reported.
The higher the wanted pressure, the more likely undermine the offender error.
A few hours can decide whether a child stays alive or not.
Lars Bruhns "Initiative for Missing Children"
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article140999141/Die-Situation-erinnert-an-den-Fall-Maddie-McCann.html
Ironically, organising authorisation for her details (including the fleck in her eye) to be disseminated to the media is one of the (few) things that I give credit to Amaral for having done. Credit where it's due.
Then, his pals in the PT media jumped on the idea that the parents had sealed her fate by publicising her details... when it was actually Amaral who had actually done something sensible.
The total lack of logic or even the basic understanding of facts beyond a quasi-religious chanting of a mantra of long-discredited "facts" is beyond me.
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Ironically, organising authorisation for her details (including the fleck in her eye) to be disseminated to the media is one of the (few) things that I give credit to Amaral for having done. Credit where it's due.
Then, his pals in the PT media jumped on the idea that the parents had sealed her fate by publicising her details... when it was actually Amaral who had actually done something sensible.
The total lack of logic or even the basic understanding of facts beyond a quasi-religious chanting of a mantra of long-discredited "facts" is beyond me.
How has this particular one been "discredited"?
Certainly not by quoting someone saying "all previous studies have shown..". Quote the studies themselves, not someone's interpretation of them.
Look also at recent high profile cases in the UK to see how police actually act in cases like this. They don't organise email and social media campaigns do they.
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How has this particular one been "discredited"?
Certainly not by quoting someone saying "all previous studies have shown..". Quote the studies themselves, not someone's interpretation of them.
Look also at recent high profile cases in the UK to see how police actually act in cases like this. They don't organise email and social media campaigns do they.
You are wrong ... everyone seems to have moved into the 21st Century and modern means of communication ...
From this link ... http://ceop.police.uk/documents/ceopdocs/missing_scopingreport_2011.pdf
I went here ...
Latest News
11/03/2015:
On 10 March 2015 the first, national Child Rescue Alert in the UK, was issued using the new system. A 14 year old girl went missing from her home in Nottinghamshire. The Police ordered an alert be issued and the system went into action. Groupcall’s dedicated software ensured that every subscriber to Child Rescue Alert received the alert. The alert appeared on Facebook pages and Twitter feeds and on the hand held devices of 124,000 Royal Mail postal workers.
Thankfully the child was found safe and well less than 24 hours later. Jo Youle Missing People Chief Executive said : “The Child Rescue Alert process went seamlessly and it's great that the child was found. Child Rescue Alert would not be possible without the National Crime Agency, Groupcall players of People’s Postcode Lottery, Royal Mail, LexisNexis, BHS, Press Association and Child Rescue Alert Patrons.”
http://childrescuealert.org.uk/
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You are wrong ... everyone seems to have moved into the 21st Century and modern means of communication ...
From this link ... http://ceop.police.uk/documents/ceopdocs/missing_scopingreport_2011.pdf
I went here ...
Latest News
11/03/2015:
On 10 March 2015 the first, national Child Rescue Alert in the UK, was issued using the new system. A 14 year old girl went missing from her home in Nottinghamshire. The Police ordered an alert be issued and the system went into action. Groupcall’s dedicated software ensured that every subscriber to Child Rescue Alert received the alert. The alert appeared on Facebook pages and Twitter feeds and on the hand held devices of 124,000 Royal Mail postal workers.
Thankfully the child was found safe and well less than 24 hours later. Jo Youle Missing People Chief Executive said : “The Child Rescue Alert process went seamlessly and it's great that the child was found. Child Rescue Alert would not be possible without the National Crime Agency, Groupcall players of People’s Postcode Lottery, Royal Mail, LexisNexis, BHS, Press Association and Child Rescue Alert Patrons.”
http://childrescuealert.org.uk/
Did you read all of the CEOP document?
Quoting from it:
In order to launch a CRA [Child Rescue Alert], strict criteria must be applied and the operational decision is taken by the Senior Investigating Officer (SIO) for the police force. The main criteria are (i) the child is under 18 years of age, (ii) there is a reasonable belief that the child has been kidnapped or abducted (which includes being taken under the influence of a third party), (iii) There is a reasonable belief that the child is in imminent danger of serious harm or death, and (iv) There is sufficient information available to enable the public to assist the police in locating the child. The CRA and international systems have been tested but there have been no live activations.
There have been recent cases, in the UK, in which clearly not all of these criteria were met and therefore the system was not used.
I doubt all would have been met in PdL May 2007 either (particularly not the last one).
In PdL all they had was photographs, and a poor description by a witness (no facial characteristics). Clearly photographs alone aren't enough to meet criteria 4.
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Did you read all of the CEOP document?
Quoting from it:
In order to launch a CRA [Child Rescue Alert], strict criteria must be applied and the operational decision is taken by the Senior Investigating Officer (SIO) for the police force. The main criteria are (i) the child is under 18 years of age, (ii) there is a reasonable belief that the child has been kidnapped or abducted (which includes being taken under the influence of a third party), (iii) There is a reasonable belief that the child is in imminent danger of serious harm or death, and (iv) There is sufficient information available to enable the public to assist the police in locating the child. The CRA and international systems have been tested but there have been no live activations.
There have been recent cases, in the UK, in which clearly not all of these criteria were met and therefore the system was not used.
I doubt all would have been met in PdL May 2007 either (particularly not the last one).
In PdL all they had was photographs, and a poor description by a witness (no facial characteristics). Clearly photographs alone aren't enough to meet criteria 4.
Sigh ... yes I have read it with a measure of understanding, which is why I chose not to cherry pick or quote from it directly as it covers a considerable amount of ground ... instead I provided a direct cite from it which was relevant to your apparent concerns.
Common sense should have dictated that social media would be utilised ... glad I was able to point you in the correct direction to verify it for you.
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Sigh ... yes I have read it with a measure of understanding, which is why I chose not to cherry pick or quote from it directly as it covers a considerable amount of ground ... instead I provided a direct cite from it which was relevant to your apparent concerns.
Common sense should have dictated that social media would be utilised ... glad I was able to point you in the correct direction to verify it for you.
How many live activations have there been?
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Did you read all of the CEOP document?
Quoting from it:
In order to launch a CRA [Child Rescue Alert], strict criteria must be applied and the operational decision is taken by the Senior Investigating Officer (SIO) for the police force. The main criteria are (i) the child is under 18 years of age, (ii) there is a reasonable belief that the child has been kidnapped or abducted (which includes being taken under the influence of a third party), (iii) There is a reasonable belief that the child is in imminent danger of serious harm or death, and (iv) There is sufficient information available to enable the public to assist the police in locating the child. The CRA and international systems have been tested but there have been no live activations.
There have been recent cases, in the UK, in which clearly not all of these criteria were met and therefore the system was not used.
I doubt all would have been met in PdL May 2007 either (particularly not the last one).
In PdL all they had was photographs, and a poor description by a witness (no facial characteristics). Clearly photographs alone aren't enough to meet criteria 4.
I am not sure what point you are trying to make here Lyall. As you saying that the system has not been used at all?
Or that the system will only be used where all of the criteria are met, and therefore even had the system operated in Portugal in 2007 it would not have been used because not ALL of the criteria were met.
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How many live activations have there been?
How many children have gone missing?
If you really, really are interested and want the answer to that question do what I would have to do and Google it.
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How many children have gone missing?
If you really, really are interested and want the answer to that question do what I would have to do and Google it.
It may help that the first live activation was on the 1st October 2012.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/oct/02/april-jones-child-rescue-alert
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I am not sure what point you are trying to make here Lyall. As you saying that the system has not been used at all?
Or that the system will only be used where all of the criteria are met, and therefore even had the system operated in Portugal in 2007 it would not have been used because not ALL of the criteria were met.
I am saying that J-P, and so are CEOP in the passage quoted. The passage comes from the CEOP document Brietta linked to.
CEOP said it had never been used (at the date of the document).
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How many children have gone missing?
If you really, really are interested and want the answer to that question do what I would have to do and Google it.
Will do ?>)()<
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I am saying that J-P, and so are CEOP in the passage quoted. The passage comes from the CEOP document Brietta linked to.
CEOP said it had never been used (at the date of the document).
What? You mean the 2011 scoping report? You are a bit out of date, I fear. The first live activation was 1st October 2012. And that didn't fit all the criteria either
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/oct/02/april-jones-child-rescue-alert
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What? You mean the 2011 scoping report? You are a bit out of date, I fear. The first live activation was 1st October 2012. And that didn't fit all the criteria either
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/oct/02/april-jones-child-rescue-alert
It was used last year for missing three-year-old Mikaeel Kular.
There have also been text alerts for 2 recent missing children, that were found quite quickly.
If signed up, you get an alert for the missing and one to inform, if found.
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I am saying that J-P, and so are CEOP in the passage quoted. The passage comes from the CEOP document Brietta linked to.
CEOP said it had never been used (at the date of the document).
The conversation started off on topic ... when I posted a quote made by Lars Bruhns "Initiative for Missing Children" in a German newspaper and was nudged off at a tangent when you posted ...
It was in relation to the suggestion being made to Kate during questioning that Madeleine had been endangered when the media were informed of her disappearance.
Even in 2007 that displayed monumental ignorance.
"How has this particular one been "discredited"?
Certainly not by quoting someone saying "all previous studies have shown..". Quote the studies themselves, not someone's interpretation of them.
Look also at recent high profile cases in the UK to see how police actually act in cases like this. They don't organise email and social media campaigns do they."
You take discussion off topic so often Lyall, at least as far as I am concerned, don't know how anyone else feels ... that I can only surmise you may be doing it deliberately.
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The conversation started off on topic ... when I posted a quote made by Lars Bruhns "Initiative for Missing Children" in a German newspaper and was nudged off at a tangent when you posted ...
It was in relation to the suggestion being made to Kate during questioning that Madeleine had been endangered when the media were informed of her disappearance.
Even in 2007 that displayed monumental ignorance.
"How has this particular one been "discredited"?
Certainly not by quoting someone saying "all previous studies have shown..". Quote the studies themselves, not someone's interpretation of them.
Look also at recent high profile cases in the UK to see how police actually act in cases like this. They don't organise email and social media campaigns do they."
You take discussion off topic so often Lyall, at least as far as I am concerned, don't know how anyone else feels ... that I can only surmise you may be doing it deliberately.
You were quoting someone's interpretation of studies, not the studies themselves. Perfectly legitimate to point that out, and to invite you to find the studies themselves. If you'd found them, you could have used them to support your points. Instead you found a CEOP document, so it was actually you going off at a tangent.
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I am puzzled that people seem to be suggesting that a child rescue alert is a bad idea, that is has never been used etc etc.
But way off topic.
To get back on topic - I suggest the answer to the question posed in the OP is that invoking the right to silence is significantly less risky than answering police questions.
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This is a new thread.
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IIRC the Mccann party informed the Media in the UK even before the PJ got there. This was no child rescue alert. So what is the real question here.
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IIRC the Mccann party informed the Media in the UK even before the PJ got there. This was no child rescue alert. So what is the real question here.
Not true.
Quote from the Final Report
None of the indications which led to their being made suspects was substantiated later; there was no proof of them having notified the media before the police, the laboratory did not confirm the traces found by the dogs, and the initial e-mail indications transcribed above later turned out to be harmless.
unquote
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Not true.
Quote from the Final Report
None of the indications which led to their being made suspects was substantiated later; there was no proof of them having notified the media before the police, the laboratory did not confirm the traces found by the dogs, and the initial e-mail indications transcribed above later turned out to be harmless.
unquote
Rachel Oldfield rang her mates in the media before the PJ got there Benice. And IIRC Dave Payne contacted Sky though I dont recall what time that was.
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Rachel Oldfield rang her mates in the media before the PJ got there Benice. And IIRC Dave Payne contacted Sky though I dont recall what time that was.
Mercury.. do you happen to have proof of what you are implying here ?
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Mercury.. do you happen to have proof of what you are implying here ?
I wasn't implying anything, just replying in the conversation to Benice. It is in Rachels rogatory that she rang her friends at the BBC and this was definitely before the PJ got to PDL. I never said they contacted the media before the first police got there, the local GNR. Why am I feeling so ganged up on tonight by so many? Out of here.
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I wasn't implying anything, just replying in the conversation to Benice. It is in Rachels rogatory that she rang her friends at the BBC and this was definitely before the PJ got to PDL. I never said they contacted the media before the first police got there, the local GNR. Why am I feeling so ganged up on tonight by so many? Out of here.
didn't you post that they rang the media in uk before the pj got there ?
err isn't this your post to benice ?
"Rachel Oldfield rang her mates in the media before the PJ got there Benice."
And IIRC Dave Payne contacted Sky though I dont recall what time that was.
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didn't you post that they rang the media in uk before they rang the pj ?
No I didnt, nite dear
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Rachel Oldfield rang her mates in the media before the PJ got there Benice. And IIRC Dave Payne contacted Sky though I dont recall what time that was.
IIRC are you confused mercury &%+((£
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No I didnt, nite dear
oh yes you did dear %£&)**#
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oh yes you did dear %£&)**#
Check your facts dear before posting, I never once said they rang the Pj, ok now? Good!
I said they rang the Uk before the PJ got there and that is a fact.Go brush up on gnr and pj
Bid you goodnight and lots of learning
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Check your facts dear before posting, I never once said they rang the Pj, ok now? Good!
I said they rang the Uk before the PJ got there and that is a fact.Go brush up on gnr and pj
Bid you goodnight and lots of learning
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France launched their "alerte enlèvement" in 2005 and it has been used 14 times to date (the last one just last month apparently).
They've had a 100% success rate (although one or two cases appear to have been false alerts).
They were in the middle of organising it for little Chloé who was snatched near Calais the other month but sadly she was found dead before it could be set in motion.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2015/04/24/01016-20150424ARTFIG00387-le-plan-alerte-enlevement-100-de-reussite-jusqu-a-present.php
The last alert was in April and the child was found 8 hours later. The kidnapper (a stranger) dumped her outside a house around 100km away. Luckily, she hadn't been sexually assaulted.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2015/04/23/01016-20150423ARTFIG00375-alerte-enlevement-une-enfant-de-7-ans-portee-disparue-en-meurthe-et-moselle.php
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There'd be no need for child alerts, if parents practiced half decent parenting.
The End.
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Twitter storm of support for AMBER Alert Europe
Following the presentation of AMBER Alert Europe's 5 key points on May 20th in the European Parliament in Strasbourg, Members of the European Parliament massively share their support for AMBER Alert Europe on Twitter. Special thanks to Dr. Kay Swinburne and her Conservative colleagues for hosting the event in the European Parliament in Strasbourg.
AMBER Alert Europe calls on all MEP's to follow Dr. Swinburne's example and bring the five key points into action. Click here for more information on the five key points.
A bigger, stronger AMBER Alert network
More flexibility in issuing alerts
Better cross-border information sharing
Better cross-border police co-operation
Border checks on children's passports
1. A bigger, stronger AMBER Alert network by reinvigorating the 2008 conclusions on Child abduction alerts
AMBER Alert Europe's ultimate goal is to improve the protection of endangered missing children in Europe and support the recommendation for all member states to have child alert systems that are capable to interoperate with other member states. Currently 14 countries have alert systems in place of which 8 have been used.
CALL FOR ACTION
We are actively working with member states to assist with the development of alerts systems but call on the EU to encourage more member states to develop EU child alerts systems.
2. More flexibility in issuing child alerts
In order to significantly increase the opportunities to save children at risk of immediate serious harm, we would like to amend the criteria for issuing child alerts. The current criteria require a proven abduction or clear elements indicating that it could be a case of abduction. We would like to add the possibility to issue an alert when police specialists have assessed that the child's life is in imminent danger.
CALL FOR ACTION
We call for amending the current criteria for issuing child alerts by adding the possibility to issue an alert when police specialists have assessed that the child's life is in imminent danger.
3. Better cross-border information sharing
Every endangered missing child deserves an equal chance of being found as quickly as possible and this must not be inhibited by them crossing borders. Ensuring that information about endangered children is shared across borders is essential. Common borders mean common responsibilities. Following the Schengen agreement and the freedom of information, information on missing children should immediately cross internal EU borders.
CALL FOR ACTION
AMBER Alert Europe calls for protocols to ensure that when a child is at risk in a border area or the police suspect that the child may have crossed the border, the police in the other country are informed immediately. When the police decide to inform the media and public about such a case, media and public at the other side of the border should also be immediately informed.
4. Better cross-border police cooperation
"Criminals work together across borders, why can't governments do the same?" Sophie in 't Veld - Member of European Parliament (ALDE/ D66, Netherlands)
We recognise the requirements of the legal process and organisations such as Interpol but it is essential that when a child's life is in danger police experts must be able to initiate immediate action. As a first step towards this, we are creating an informal European police expert network, currently consisting of over 20 law enforcement specialists from 8 countries, led by Charlie Hedges, a renowned expert in the field of missing children.
These dedicated roles will form a network of experts throughout Europe, to be the first point of contact in critical cases and to enable the sharing of good practice. We will work with all organisations to ensure that the above does not create overlaps or conflicts.
CALL FOR ACTION
We call for the creation of a formal European network of experts in endangered missing children and child alerts on a national level. The network should be part of the law enforcement response and is to be appointed as such by the relevant authorities in each EU member state. We also call for all organisations, statutory and NGOs to work together for the common purpose of protecting vulnerable children.
5. Border checks on children's passports
It is important to establish effective cooperation between national police and border guards protecting the outer borders of the EU. Ensuring that the children are crossing the border legitimately is a critical part of this as they may be at serious risk of harm such as trafficking, smuggling and abduction.
CALL FOR ACTION
We call for protocols to ensure that international procedures for entering Article 32 Alerts (Missing Persons) in SIS II, including the automatic insertion and prioritization of endangered missing children are always followed. We also call for passports of all children to be swiped to assist in identifying those at risk of harm.
http://amberalert.eu/News.aspx?newsId=102
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Twitter storm of support for AMBER Alert Europe
Following the presentation of AMBER Alert Europe's 5 key points on May 20th in the European Parliament in Strasbourg, Members of the European Parliament massively share their support for AMBER Alert Europe on Twitter. Special thanks to Dr. Kay Swinburne and her Conservative colleagues for hosting the event in the European Parliament in Strasbourg.
AMBER Alert Europe calls on all MEP's to follow Dr. Swinburne's example and bring the five key points into action. Click here for more information on the five key points.
A bigger, stronger AMBER Alert network
More flexibility in issuing alerts
Better cross-border information sharing
Better cross-border police co-operation
Border checks on children's passports
1. A bigger, stronger AMBER Alert network by reinvigorating the 2008 conclusions on Child abduction alerts
AMBER Alert Europe's ultimate goal is to improve the protection of endangered missing children in Europe and support the recommendation for all member states to have child alert systems that are capable to interoperate with other member states. Currently 14 countries have alert systems in place of which 8 have been used.
CALL FOR ACTION
We are actively working with member states to assist with the development of alerts systems but call on the EU to encourage more member states to develop EU child alerts systems.
2. More flexibility in issuing child alerts
In order to significantly increase the opportunities to save children at risk of immediate serious harm, we would like to amend the criteria for issuing child alerts. The current criteria require a proven abduction or clear elements indicating that it could be a case of abduction. We would like to add the possibility to issue an alert when police specialists have assessed that the child's life is in imminent danger.
CALL FOR ACTION
We call for amending the current criteria for issuing child alerts by adding the possibility to issue an alert when police specialists have assessed that the child's life is in imminent danger.
3. Better cross-border information sharing
Every endangered missing child deserves an equal chance of being found as quickly as possible and this must not be inhibited by them crossing borders. Ensuring that information about endangered children is shared across borders is essential. Common borders mean common responsibilities. Following the Schengen agreement and the freedom of information, information on missing children should immediately cross internal EU borders.
CALL FOR ACTION
AMBER Alert Europe calls for protocols to ensure that when a child is at risk in a border area or the police suspect that the child may have crossed the border, the police in the other country are informed immediately. When the police decide to inform the media and public about such a case, media and public at the other side of the border should also be immediately informed.
4. Better cross-border police cooperation
"Criminals work together across borders, why can't governments do the same?" Sophie in 't Veld - Member of European Parliament (ALDE/ D66, Netherlands)
We recognise the requirements of the legal process and organisations such as Interpol but it is essential that when a child's life is in danger police experts must be able to initiate immediate action. As a first step towards this, we are creating an informal European police expert network, currently consisting of over 20 law enforcement specialists from 8 countries, led by Charlie Hedges, a renowned expert in the field of missing children.
These dedicated roles will form a network of experts throughout Europe, to be the first point of contact in critical cases and to enable the sharing of good practice. We will work with all organisations to ensure that the above does not create overlaps or conflicts.
CALL FOR ACTION
We call for the creation of a formal European network of experts in endangered missing children and child alerts on a national level. The network should be part of the law enforcement response and is to be appointed as such by the relevant authorities in each EU member state. We also call for all organisations, statutory and NGOs to work together for the common purpose of protecting vulnerable children.
5. Border checks on children's passports
It is important to establish effective cooperation between national police and border guards protecting the outer borders of the EU. Ensuring that the children are crossing the border legitimately is a critical part of this as they may be at serious risk of harm such as trafficking, smuggling and abduction.
CALL FOR ACTION
We call for protocols to ensure that international procedures for entering Article 32 Alerts (Missing Persons) in SIS II, including the automatic insertion and prioritization of endangered missing children are always followed. We also call for passports of all children to be swiped to assist in identifying those at risk of harm.
http://amberalert.eu/News.aspx?newsId=102
In August 2007 Nick Amies was highlighting the European wide problem of the lack of a system like Amber Alert and the disparities of provision to look for missing children in different European countries.
He used the shameful instance of a family reliant on their own resources to keep looking for their missing daughter in the absence of any official procedures being in place to help them do so.
That it is now in operation and has been successful in many instances validates its inception and the fact that one high profile case, that of Madeleine McCann, has been used to highlight the need for it.
Experts Say New Alert System Needed in EU Child Searches
The EU has a lot of experience in dealing with cross-border problems. So it should come as no surprise that its efforts to solve child abduction cases should focus on cooperation and standardized search procedures.
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Whether one admires or criticizes the McCanns' use of the media in the search for their daughter, one thing cannot be ignored: The media strategy has resulted in an unprecedented level of coverage regarding a child's abduction.
But should a family have to create its own rolling news channel to keep the world informed of the efforts to find a missing child? Could the creation of the "Find Madeleine" campaign also be a reaction to inadequate international search procedures?
http://www.dw.de/experts-say-new-alert-system-needed-in-eu-child-searches/a-2749573
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Alert system for Madeleine
Abduction time : none
Vehicle description: none
Abductor description : none
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Alert system for Madeleine
Abduction time : none
Vehicle description: none
Abductor description : none
Unfortunately, that's often the case, hence - perhaps - the move to extend the conditions for an alert to be issued when there is reason to believe that a missing child could be in imminent danger whatever the cause.
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Unfortunately, that's often the case, hence - perhaps - the move to extend the conditions for an alert to be issued when there is reason to believe that a missing child could be in imminent danger whatever the cause.
No one would deny that any attempt to improve any kind of alert is not a good thing. But I was referring to the Mccanns saying that an "Amber Alert" could have helped at the time when it is a fact that no, it couldn't, as none of the factors required for an Amber Alert were present.
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No one would deny that any attempt to improve any kind of alert is not a good thing. But I was referring to the Mccanns saying that an "Amber Alert" could have helped at the time when it is a fact that no, it couldn't, as none of the factors required for an Amber Alert were present.
A missing child?
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A missing child?
That is not enough to warrant an Amber Alert
It should be but it isn't
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Eye-scanners used to track terrorists adapted to help search for missing children like Madeleine McCann
- Devices will be used to scan a person's eye from up to 40 feet away
- Developed by Carnegie Mellon University's College of Engineering in Pittsburgh
- They will check the 'fingerprint' of iris against database of missing people
- Similar technology already used by military to identify suspected terrorists
- Could help find missing children whose appearances have altered
By KATE PICKLES FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 09:32, 4 August 2015 | UPDATED: 16:48, 4 August 2015
Eye-scanners used to track terrorists are being adapted to help search for missing children.
Researchers at a Pittsburgh university have developed high-resolution cameras that can be placed at major checkpoints, such as airports and border crossings, to scan a person's iris from 40-feet away.
It means missing people could be identified through their eye's iris, even if their physical appearance has altered drastically.
'This is breakthrough technology for locating missing children, especially victims of human trafficking,' said Marios Savvides, director of the CyLab Biometrics Center at Carnegie Mellon University's College of Engineering.
'Right now law enforcement has only photos of missing children to work with, but appearance can change.'
'We're giving them a biometric that really cannot be altered,' he told Fox News.
The technology could help children like British girl Madeleine McCann who went missing from a holiday apartment in Portugal, eight years ago, just days before her fourth birthday.
Pictures circulated of the blonde youngster focused on a distinctive mark on her right eye that her family hope will still lead to her identification, years later.
But this technology would go beyond anything that could be seen by the naked eye, scientists say.
In order for the process to work, parents would have to have their children's irises scanned and put onto an international database.
The cameras could then alert authorities if a missing person was brought through the checkpoints, which would be especially useful to stop international trafficking.
The technology could also be used by police to help catch criminals by allowing identification without having to come directly into contact with them.
The university lab was given a $1.5million grant from the Department of Defense to develop the technology, which the U.S. military has used in Afghanistan and Iraq to help identify suspected terrorists.
It works in a similar fashion to fingerprints as a person's iris has a distinct pattern which doesn't change over time.
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Seems like a great idea, in theory at least. I wonder where they got the iris scans of criminals and terrorists that are being tracked.
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Micro-chipping children has been suggested, and now recording eye patterns. It would certainly make life easier for all sorts of people if we were all recorded on some database in the future. It's never going to happen in my opinion, as it's such an invasion of freedom and privacy; very Big Brother.
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My cat is microchipped. I doubt very much any parent would do the same to their kids(or themselves) just in case they got abducted or went missing of own volition.
Iris scanning is a little more feasible in theory, but only if existing records are amalgamated, (rather than going to some centre to get scanned, "just in case") such as eye scans at airport departure for example.?
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Micro-chipping children has been suggested, and now recording eye patterns. It would certainly make life easier for all sorts of people if we were all recorded on some database in the future. It's never going to happen in my opinion, as it's such an invasion of freedom and privacy; very Big Brother.
Modern living is built on the invasion of freedom and privacy: everyone leaves digital footprints which anyone with the appropriate technology can follow.