Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?

[Mr Gray]

If she wasn't then he probably didn't alert to a wall. He may have had his head up;

The first alert was given with the dogs head in the air without a positive area
being identified. This is the alert given by him when there is no tangible
evidence to be located only the remaining scent.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Given thta statement wheres all the tangible evidence thta should have been found from eddies barking

[Eleanor]

If she wasn't then he probably didn't alert to a wall. He may have had his head up;

The first alert was given with the dogs head in the air without a positive area
being identified. This is the alert given by him when there is no tangible
evidence to be located only the remaining scent.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

That's not a lot of good, is it.

[Lace]

Given thta statement wheres all the tangible evidence thta should have been found from eddies barking

Madeleine was not in the apartment long enough for any cadaver scent to be left there.  Whatever Eddie was barkig at it was not the gases emitted from a body.

[Mr Gray]

Madeleine was not in the apartment long enough for any cadaver scent to be left there.  Whatever Eddie was barkig at it was not the gases emitted from a body.

I  realise taht ...but if the bark is given when tangible evidence is present...wheres's the tangible evidence....or is this just another of grimes own contradictions which imo futher questions the validity of the alerts .....just too many contradictions.

[Lace]

I  realise taht ...but if the bark is given when tangible evidence is present...wheres's the tangible evidence....or is this just another of grimes own contradictions which imo futher questions the validity of the alerts .....just too many contradictions.

After being called back Eddie no doubt alerted to some sort of scent,  maybe from where dirty washing was put in the wardrobe or something walked in on the tiles.  The apartment had been shut up it was a warm day you get musty smells then.   I read that a dog doesn't alert very well in hot conditions and Eddie was definitely hot he was panting.

[Robittybob1]

I  realise taht ...but if the bark is given when tangible evidence is present...wheres's the tangible evidence....or is this just another of grimes own contradictions which imo futher questions the validity of the alerts .....just too many contradictions.

Only in the 5% that are false positive alerts.   The other 95% of the time he was spot on.

[Mr Gray]

Only in the 5% that are false positive alerts.   The other 95% of the time he was spot on.

thats in laboratory controlled tests...not in apartmnet 5a or Jersey...scientifically you cannot extrapolate that...

[Mr Gray]

Only in the 5% that are false positive alerts.   The other 95% of the time he was spot on.

the question was that eddie ...according to grimes statement supplied by gunit this morning...doesnt bark at remnant scent...only when tangible evidence is present.

[Robittybob1]

thats in laboratory controlled tests...not in apartmnet 5a or Jersey...scientifically you cannot extrapolate that...

And in his training exercises. 

the question was that eddie ...according to grimes statement supplied by gunit this morning...doesnt bark at remnant scent...only when tangible evidence is present.

OK he was trained with "tangible evidence", I must have missed the "doesnt bark at remnant scent" bit.

[Mr Gray]

And in his training exercises. 

OK he was trained with "tangible evidence", I must have missed the "doesnt bark at remnant scent" bit.

His training exercises are under controlled conditions...there is no evidence taht his alerts in 5a or anywhere else are 95% accurate

[Robittybob1]

the question was that eddie ...according to grimes statement supplied by gunit this morning...doesnt bark at remnant scent...only when tangible evidence is present.

I just love it when I find you are wrong. 
Grime said "The first alert was given with the dogs head in the air without a positive area
being identified. This is the alert given by him when there is no tangible
evidence to be located only the remaining scent."

So that clearly means the dog Eddie alerts even in places where there is just remaining scent.

[Brietta]

I  realise taht ...but if the bark is given when tangible evidence is present...wheres's the tangible evidence....or is this just another of grimes own contradictions which imo futher questions the validity of the alerts .....just too many contradictions.

We have all watched Levy's video and have been perfectly capable of making up our own minds about this.  I actually fell about laughing the first time I watched.  Having been battered with "dogs don't lie" I was prepared for the worst, what I saw astounded me as to the gullibility of people repeating that mantra.
         

That's the iconic shot of Eddie proving the case.
But on this occasion we know why he's barking ... forensics have proved it was to a key fob contaminated by cellular material from a living breathing human being.

Why on earth are sceptics hanging on to this rubbish as if it meant anything.  I think the only evidence it provides is just how gullible some people appear to be.

[Eleanor]

I just love it when I find you are wrong. 
Grime said "The first alert was given with the dogs head in the air without a positive area
being identified. This is the alert given by him when there is no tangible
evidence to be located only the remaining scent."

So that clearly means the dog Eddie alerts even in places where there is just remaining scent.

Scent of What?  And don't tell me it had to be Cadaver Scent.

[Robittybob1]

Scent of What?  And don't tell me it had to be Cadaver Scent.

Ask Martin Grime as it is his words we are debating. 

[Mr Gray]

I just love it when I find you are wrong. 
Grime said "The first alert was given with the dogs head in the air without a positive area
being identified. This is the alert given by him when there is no tangible
evidence to be located only the remaining scent."

So that clearly means the dog Eddie alerts even in places where there is just remaining scent.

....read my post again and what youve just posted. Eddie alerts to remnant scent...but doesnt bark...he holds his head in the air.

its you who is wrong not me