Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?

[Icanhandlethetruth]

Tell that to G Unit.  This is what the argument was all about.  Don't demand a Cite when you are not prepared  to give a Cite yourself.

But, I'll tell you what,  this stupid, never ending demand for ridiculous Cites will end.

I will give a cite for anything you want. Ask away. Why is it ridiculous? I thought it was the rules? If I am being unreasonable please tell me the etiquette for requesting cites and I will comply.

[Eleanor]

I will give a cite for anything you want. Ask away. Why is it ridiculous? I thought it was the rules? If I am being unreasonable please tell me the etiquette for requesting cites and I will comply.

Did you not understand what I said?  Don't ask for a Cite.  I am quite happy with Your Opinion.  But you see, G Unit made a statement without a Cite and then demanded a Cite from me.  After that G Unit accused me of lying. This is beyond hypocrisy.

But this isn't going to happen again.

[Icanhandlethetruth]

Did you not understand what I said?  Don't ask for a Cite.  I am quite happy with Your Opinion.  But you see, G Unit made a statement without a Cite and then demanded a Cite from me.  After that G Unit accused me of lying. This is beyond hypocrisy.

But this isn't going to happen again.

So the etiquette is don't ask for a cite. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

[Venturi Swirl]

No, as I said Mr Grime is a master of contradiction, he has also said that he always trusts his dogs alerts. Dog alerts have always included the possibility of pig alerts as it seems the scent is similar. That won't change with human remain training IMO.

I don’t think he has contradicted his position, just corrected it, and since Eddie not used dogs trained on animal matter to try and locate remant human cadaver scent because he knows that otherwise the alerts can be (rightly IMO) called into question.  I think his quote proves this.

[Eleanor]

So the etiquette is don't ask for a cite. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

Best not to ask for a Cite actually, because you could be found wanting yourself one day.  It is mostly a can of worms anyway and God knows who thinks what.

[Venturi Swirl]

Best not to ask for a Cite actually, because you could be found wanting yourself one day.  It is mostly a can of worms anyway and God knows who thinks what.

I’ve had to ask G-Unit for the same cite multiple times until I think she was hoping I’d give up.  I have tried to find your cite for you but so far without much luck but I have uncovered some other interesting snippets in the meantime.

[Eleanor]

I don’t think he has contradicted his position, just corrected it, and since Eddie not used dogs trained on animal matter to try and locate remant human cadaver scent because he knows that otherwise the alerts can be (rightly IMO) called into question.  I think his quote proves this.

Poor old Eddie.  He really didn't stand half a chance.

However, my Rotten Little Pisser was barking fit to bust this after noon.  So I went to shut him up.  And saw the biggest Viper I have ever seen.  Fortunately the Rotten Little Pisser didn't actually take it on.  And it was probably scared witless anyway.  So I went running for my son, although God knows why.  I shut the dog in the house and The Viper had bogged off somewhere else by the time I got back.

Incidentally, it was quite beautiful.  I did notice that in passing.  I expect that it is still in my garden somewhere.  I did have a very little one a few moons ago so it might be the same one.

[Eleanor]

I’ve had to ask G-Unit for the same cite multiple times until I think she was hoping I’d give up.  I have tried to find your cite for you but so far without much luck but I have uncovered some other interesting snippets in the meantime.

Exactly what I meant.  It is those who never come up with Cites themselves who most demand Cites.  And I have had enough of this dictatorial rubbish.

But I did find the Cite myself in the incredibly boring end and jolly well nearly put down my computer in the process.  I am not sharing it because I don't want to.  But thanks for trying.

Any future demands for Cites will be met with a bog off and find it yourself, which they won't do.  So end of that one.

G Unit will never ask me for a Cite ever again.

[G-Unit]

Moving on from silly arguments, I think it's clear that testimony by dog handlers is just as admissible as any other testimony and can and should be used as evidence in the courts.

[Mr Gray]

Moving on from silly arguments, I think it's clear that testimony by dog handlers is just as admissible as any other testimony and can and should be used as evidence in the courts.

But Grime and Harrison say no evifential reliability or value... Prof Cassella who has written several scientific papers is equally dismissive

[G-Unit]

But Grime and Harrison say no evifential reliability or value... Prof Cassella who has written several scientific papers is equally dismissive

Decisions about the admissibility of evidence are not taken by police officers or professors.

[Eleanor]

Decisions about the admissibility of evidence are not taken by police officers or professors.

Or you.

[barrier]

But Grime and Harrison say no evifential reliability or value... Prof Cassella who has written several scientific papers is equally dismissive

Yet we hear of court cases which contradicts them. Wolters you constantly tell us has evidence of Madeleine's death,
whats to say its not these pesky dogs, he's never revealed what he has.

[Mr Gray]

Decisions about the admissibility of evidence are not taken by police officers or professors.

The value of the evidence is

[Mr Gray]

Yet we hear of court cases which contradicts them. Wolters you constantly tell us has evidence of Madeleine's death,
whats to say its not these pesky dogs, he's never revealed what he has.

Grime contradicts himself... If you think Wolteers is relying on the alerts you haven't followed what he has said