Author Topic: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?  (Read 170940 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1365 on: July 06, 2020, 01:13:57 PM »
They do it subconsciously he knew it was the McCann's apartment,  Eddie wasn't bothered with the bedroom Grime called him back.

How could Grime judge whether he subconsciously cues the dog...is he so enlightened he's conscious of his subconscious

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1366 on: July 06, 2020, 01:15:25 PM »
But yet it is still stuff that could be used...If backed up with something else it seems it would be evidence

Also, have value so it wasn't nothing as you try and make out

It's the stuff that backs it up that is the evidence...the alert itself has no value

Offline kizzy

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1367 on: July 06, 2020, 01:24:48 PM »
It's the stuff that backs it up that is the evidence...the alert itself has no value

Ye, so it isn't nothing... like you try to make out it would have value.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1368 on: July 06, 2020, 01:25:35 PM »
Ye, so it isn't nothing... like you try to make out it would have value.

No it doesn't...it's the evidence found that has value

The dogs can be very useful...but they can lead to misunderstanding s...they were heavily criticised in the report from Jersey
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Offline kizzy

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1369 on: July 06, 2020, 01:29:32 PM »
No it doesn't...it's the evidence found that has value

then backed up with what the dogs alerted to.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1370 on: July 06, 2020, 01:34:53 PM »
then backed up with what the dogs alerted to.

Whatever..I'm not really bothered it's of no importance

Offline kizzy

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1371 on: July 06, 2020, 01:37:08 PM »
Whatever..I'm not really bothered it's of no importance

No, but do stop saying it was useless when it wasn't D

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1372 on: July 06, 2020, 01:38:07 PM »
They do it subconsciously he knew it was the McCann's apartment,  Eddie wasn't bothered with the bedroom Grime called him back.

Him knowing it was their apartment does not explain why he would (subconsciously) encourage a false alert. That makes no sense. Martin Grime knows that an alert in its own is not evidence. What we see happening in this case is Eddie’s alert in 5A providing a signpost to where Keela might be able to find traces of blood. This is exactly how it panned out. Forensic scientists collected human cellular material from under the tiles in the area where both dogs alerted. The DNA analysis found the human cellular material in swab 3a could have belonged to MM but the result was “inconclusive” because there was more than one contributor and the FSS was unable to separate these out. Dr Perlin however has offered his services.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1373 on: July 06, 2020, 01:38:43 PM »
No, but do stop saying it was useless when it wasn't D

I'm allowed to express my opinions...the alerts in this case we're useless...it's not your position to tell me what I can and cannot post

Offline Eleanor

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1374 on: July 06, 2020, 01:50:40 PM »
No, but do stop saying it was useless when it wasn't D

Did they find anything?

Offline kizzy

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1375 on: July 06, 2020, 01:55:16 PM »
I'm allowed to express my opinions...the alerts in this case we're useless...it's not your position to tell me what I can and cannot post

I'm not ...but bear in mind so an I

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1376 on: July 06, 2020, 02:00:26 PM »
I'm not ...but bear in mind so an I

I'll post what I like on the dog thread or any thread. I made a post on Twitter re the dogs yesterday....and Jim Gamble liked it....I m obviously speaking sense...in this case the alerts were useless. I have a lot more to say but the free speech given to others stops me...so much for free speech

Offline kizzy

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1377 on: July 06, 2020, 02:07:21 PM »
I'll post what I like on the dog thread or any thread. I made a post on Twitter re the dogs yesterday....and Jim Gamble liked it....I m obviously speaking sense...in this case the alerts were useless. I have a lot more to say but the free speech given to others stops me...so much for free speech

and Jim Gamble liked it....


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Offline The General

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1378 on: July 06, 2020, 02:08:21 PM »
and Jim Gamble liked it....


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Wait, what? The Jim Gamble? DUDE!
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1379 on: July 06, 2020, 02:10:13 PM »
Did they find anything?

Human cellular material under the floor tiles - but you know that already!