Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?

[Robittybob1]

Yes Eddie alerted at the wardrobe and Keela was put inside.

Where is the proof that that is actual footage from PdL?

[pathfinder73]

Where do you think it's from 

31 minutes

[Carana]

Do human ashes even emit volatile organic compounds? There's some reasearch for a rainy Saturday afternoon!!

Apparently:


From the Op Rectangle Report

'VT / 9 Trench and gun emplacement containing small personnel shelter. Forensic examination revealed recently deposited tissues that appeared to have been used to ‘clean up following sexual intercourse’. It would appear that the shelter had been used as a venue for courting couples. This alert is within the trained parameters of the dog’s repertoire and is a satisfactory explanation of the alert.

Base of an oak tree planted as a memorial to the two sons of Mr Hamon, Flat 2 Delborgho Lodge, Upper Clarendon Road, St Hellier. The cremated remains of the two adult sons had been previously scattered just under the surface of the ground and the tree planted as a permanent memorial together with a plaque. This alert is within the trained parameters of the dog’s repertoire and is a satisfactory explanation of the alert.
There being no other points of interest, intelligence led excavation of the site commenced to locate and investigate defensive positions by excavation, forensic examination and canine screening.'
http://voiceforprotest.blogspot.com/2010/03/operation-rectangle-summary-report.html

[Mr Gray]

Apparently:


From the Op Rectangle Report

'VT / 9 Trench and gun emplacement containing small personnel shelter. Forensic examination revealed recently deposited tissues that appeared to have been used to ‘clean up following sexual intercourse’. It would appear that the shelter had been used as a venue for courting couples. This alert is within the trained parameters of the dog’s repertoire and is a satisfactory explanation of the alert.

Base of an oak tree planted as a memorial to the two sons of Mr Hamon, Flat 2 Delborgho Lodge, Upper Clarendon Road, St Hellier. The cremated remains of the two adult sons had been previously scattered just under the surface of the ground and the tree planted as a permanent memorial together with a plaque. This alert is within the trained parameters of the dog’s repertoire and is a satisfactory explanation of the alert.
There being no other points of interest, intelligence led excavation of the site commenced to locate and investigate defensive positions by excavation, forensic examination and canine screening.'
http://voiceforprotest.blogspot.com/2010/03/operation-rectangle-summary-report.html

from what Ive read grime isnt consistent wth what triggers an alert. In his white paper he says teeth do not cause an alert...yet in Jersey it seems he thought they did

[Carana]

from what Ive read grime isnt consistent wth what triggers an alert. In his white paper he says teeth do not cause an alert...yet in Jersey it seems he thought they did

"White paper"?

[Mr Gray]

"White paper"?

http://eprints.staffs.ac.uk/4750/1/Forensic%20Canine%20Foundation%20.pdf

[kizzy]

Experiment with piglets to determine when a live person gives out the scent of a dead one conclusion they wouldn't send a cadaver dog out until two days after a disaster to search for the dead.

These findings are important when considering the use of scent-detection dogs during disaster victim search and recovery. It is clear that the VOC profile during the early postmortem period is dynamic and changes both hourly and daily. Notably, the period on day 2 whereby the VOC profile transitioned to a complex postmortem odour could have potential ramifications on the choice of scent-detection dogs deployed to a disaster scene. Given that the early postmortem odour appears to more closely resemble an antemortem odour until day 2, the use of human scent dogs may be more effective during the first 24 h following a mass disaster. While HRD dogs may be more effective as a search tool after 48 h when the VOC profile more closely resembles decomposition odour.

Do you think there was a dead piglet behind the sofa them L

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

from what Ive read grime isnt consistent wth what triggers an alert. In his white paper he says teeth do not cause an alert...yet in Jersey it seems he thought they did

There wasn’t just teeth found in Jersey.... Let’s also not forget what went on there.

[Lace]

Do you think there was a dead piglet behind the sofa them L

Grime trained Eddie on pig meat.

[Brietta]

There wasn’t just teeth found in Jersey.... Let’s also not forget what went on there.

The circus which went on in Haute de la Garenne took time and resources away from the real cases of child abuse in Jersey.

No child was murdered there ... no child went missing there ... and whatever Eddie alerted to it was not cadaver scent ... except on one occasion when I believe he alerted to a spot where cremation ashes had been scattered.

[Eleanor]

There wasn’t just teeth found in Jersey.... Let’s also not forget what went on there.

Jersey was a debacle.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

The circus which went on in Haute de la Garenne took time and resources away from the real cases of child abuse in Jersey.

No child was murdered there ... no child went missing there ... and whatever Eddie alerted to it was not cadaver scent ... except on one occasion when I believe he alerted to a spot where cremation ashes had been scattered.

How can you say "it was not cadaver scent"... when you can't prove that some of the bone fragments weren't human? Whoever heard of a coconut shell with collagen? I'm not one for conspiracy theories but I'm highly suspicious that there are attempts at a cover up regarding who was involved in the abuse at HdlG.

Which force investigated HdlG, Dave? That's a genuine question, btw.

[pathfinder73]

Grime trained Eddie on pig meat.

And ALL cadaver dogs alert to it. Your point?

[Mr Gray]

How can you say "it was not cadaver scent"... when you can't prove that some of the bone fragments weren't human? Whoever heard of a coconut shell with collagen? I'm not one for conspiracy theories but I'm highly suspicious that there are attempts at a cover up regarding who was involved in the abuse at HdlG.

Which force investigated HdlG, Dave? That's a genuine question, btw.

cite for the coconut shell had collagen...more BS ...and when I say cite I dont mean from lenny harper

[Brietta]

Where do you think it's from 

31 minutes

it seems to belong to Duarte Levy ... who, according to Morais is not the real deal.