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Offline VIXTE

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #390 on: June 04, 2020, 10:23:29 PM »
Talking of scapegoats..if he was to confess to the crime....then appear in court looking like he had been beaten to a pulp...would sceptics accepy his guilt.

I read tonight he had written something on an internet forum about the case which could have incriminated him.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #391 on: June 04, 2020, 10:35:11 PM »
Surely it is equally inept to start a missing child case by refusing to investigate any possibility that there may be some close family involvement. Such a premise is (or rather was) unheard of.
Deflection. 
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #392 on: June 04, 2020, 10:36:13 PM »
I read tonight he had written something on an internet forum about the case which could have incriminated him.
Where did you read that?


Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #394 on: June 04, 2020, 10:49:52 PM »
I read tonight he had written something on an internet forum about the case which could have incriminated him.

Yes, I've seen that mentioned as well. Not clear whether it was a forum, or comments on a blog, nor in which language.

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #395 on: June 04, 2020, 10:50:56 PM »
Whatever happened to Madeleine wasn't a game ... I'm surprised you appear to be treating it as such.

No it isn’t a game and this is a real child who has probably died in the most horrific of circumstances if the German police have ‘their finger on the pulse’. Perhaps it’s worth you remembering that...this isn’t merely about exonerating the parents.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #396 on: June 04, 2020, 11:09:45 PM »
An interesting and informative article here - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/04/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-bruckner-fled-police-in-1995

Very interesting. There doesn’t seem to be any history of abduction in his past, even though there is horrific abuse  and no evidence that he carried out his crimes with an accomplice.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #397 on: June 04, 2020, 11:11:10 PM »
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/german-madeleine-mccann-suspect-wrote-22136821

Thanks but that article does not say anything to suggest that what he wrote was self incriminating. Or was that part of your post speculation?

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #398 on: June 04, 2020, 11:18:59 PM »
Very interesting. There doesn’t seem to be any history of abduction in his past, even though there is horrific abuse  and no evidence that he carried out his crimes with an accomplice.
There is a history of highly risky behaviour including robbing holiday apartments while they were occupied.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #399 on: June 04, 2020, 11:23:46 PM »
Hundreds respond to fresh Madeleine McCann appeal for information
4 June 2020 at 9:33pm
 Madeleine in Portugal before her disappearance.
Madeleine in Portugal before her disappearance.
Hundreds of people have responded to a fresh police appeal for information over the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Scotland Yard, working with German and Portuguese authorities, have received hundreds of emails and calls from the public after urging people to come forward if they could shed more light on a German prisoner currently under investigation on Wednesday night.

German prosecutors believe Madeleine is dead and are investigating the child sex predator on suspicion of her murder.

 Madeleine disappeared just before her fourth birthday.
Madeleine disappeared just before her fourth birthday. Credit: PA
Mary Nightingale on the resolve of Gerry and Kate McCann
What do we know about the suspect in the Madeleine McCann disappearance?
German media name suspect in Madeleine McCann murder investigation
DCI Mark Cranwell, who is leading the Metropolitan Police’s Operation Grange investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance, said more than 270 calls and emails had been received by 4pm on Thursday.

Thanking the public for getting in touch, he said: “We are pleased with the information coming in, and it will be assessed and prioritised.

“We continue to urge anyone with information to come forward and speak with us.”

Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick reveals the suspect's name was given to police in 2017
The suspect under investigation, a 43-year-old German national who has been named in media reports as Christian B, is reportedly serving a seven-year prison sentence for the rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Portugal in 2005.

He is known to have lived on the Algarve coast and his Portuguese mobile phone received a half-hour phone call in Praia da Luz around an hour before Madeleine, three, went missing on May 3 2007.

Scotland Yard said he was believed to have been living in a distinctive early 1980s VW T3 Westfalia camper van at the time and re-registered a 1993 Jaguar XJR6 in someone else’s name the day after her disappearance.

The force’s Operation Grange, which has received £12.3 million in funding up since it was launched in 2013, still considers the case a missing person inquiry because there is no “definitive evidence whether Madeleine is alive or dead”.

But Hans Christian Wolters, a spokesman for the Braunschweig public prosecutor’s office, said the suspect is being investigated “on suspicion of murder”, adding: “We are assuming that the girl is dead.

German newspaper Braunschweiger Zeitung reported the suspect was convicted of rape in Braunschweig District Court in December last year.

 A house in Portugal linked to the suspect
A house in Portugal linked to the suspect Credit: Federal Criminal Police Office of Germany/PA
Der Spiegel reported he is serving a prison sentence in Kiel, having been initially extradited from Portugal in 2017 and convicted of drug trafficking.

The German magazine said his criminal record contains a total of 17 entries, including child abuse while he was still a teenager, and published a pixelated picture of him apparently taken from Facebook.

It comes after Christian Hoppe, from Germany’s Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA), told the country’s ZDF television channel on Wednesday night German police have not ruled out a sexual motive for the alleged crime against Madeleine.

He said that the suspect may have broken into an apartment in the Ocean Club complex, where Madeleine was on holiday with her parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, and her twin siblings Sean and Amelie, before spontaneously kidnapping her.

A BKA appeal said: “There is reason to assume that there are other persons, apart from the suspect, who have concrete knowledge of the course of the crime and maybe also of the place where the body was left.”

 Kate and Gerry McCann in 2007
Kate and Gerry McCann in 2007 Credit: Steve Parsons/PA
Both vehicles linked to the suspect have been seized by German police, who said there is information to suggest the suspect may have used one of them in the alleged offence.

The BKA is asking for other potential victims to come forward, while an appeal on German Crimewatch-style programme XY said the suspect was linked to houses in Portugal, including one between Praia da Luz and Lagos.

Scotland Yard revealed the “significant development” in a joint appeal with the BKA and the Portuguese Policia Judiciaria (PJ), including a £20,000 reward for information leading to the conviction of the person responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance who vanished shortly before her fourth birthday.

Kate and Gerry McCann, from Rothley, in Leicestershire, welcomed the latest appeal in a statement which said: “We will never give up hope of finding Madeleine alive, but whatever the outcome may be, we need to know as we need to find peace.”

Last updated Thu 4 Jun 2020
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #400 on: June 04, 2020, 11:37:28 PM »
Deluded.

 *%87 they will never solve this case until he is identified. Everything leads to Smithman and his perculiar timeline. Time for him to come forward and reveal himself knowing they have another but don't bet on it  @)(++(*
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #401 on: June 04, 2020, 11:42:02 PM »
*%87 they will never solve this case until he is identified. Everything leads to Smithman and his perculiar timeline. Time for him to come forward and reveal himself knowing they have another but don't bet on it  @)(++(*
Ridiculous.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #402 on: June 04, 2020, 11:43:19 PM »
Deflection.

Not at all. I'm just pointing out an obvious flaw.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #403 on: June 05, 2020, 12:02:05 AM »
Not at all. I'm just pointing out an obvious flaw.
In what?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #404 on: June 05, 2020, 12:33:06 AM »
In what?

Operation Grange. Surely you agree that all missing children cases where foul play is suspecting do not start an investigation which rules out close family involvement. It's a huge flaw. A preconception introduces bias from the beginning and makes an investigation less effective, imo.