Sandra Lean to answer questions on Facebook Jibber Jabber at 8pm.

[Nicholas]

I came over here from the Q&A. Had and still don't know who or what John story is. All I could see from it was he had her rattled and she certainly didn't like his as  I seen valid questions.

Yes and I suspect she was ‘rattled’ because she deems him as a threat to her because of his vast knowledge on the case, his knowledge on Sandra and other key players in this charade; like Corrine Mitchell and Scott Forbes

I’m not sure if John’s story is relevant - you could always ask him

[Mrs S]

Yes and I suspect she was ‘rattled’ because she deems him as a threat to her because of his vast knowledge on the case, his knowledge on Sandra and other key players in this charade; like Corrine Mitchell and Scott Forbes

I’m not sure if John’s story relevant - you could always ask him

  I certainly got the impression he had knowledge that she didn't want put out there.

[Venturi Swirl]

She didn’t call you a troll John she called you a ‘malevolent troll’

And after composing herself she appeared to me to have realised her error

At what point in the podcast was this? 

[Nicholas]

She didn’t call you a troll John she called you a ‘malevolent troll’

And after composing herself she appeared to me to have realised her error

My mistake - Jay Mack referred to you as a ‘malevolent troll’ Sandra Lean agreed with him

Sandra Lean:
“This guy will try to discredit everything I say. So Mr Lamberton there is no other route back to Luke’s house that he can get there without walking up the main road because there’s only one point of entry to the house and that’s the front door - back gardens all back onto each other so he cannae get in the back door without coming through somebody else’s house”

[Nicholas]

  I certainly got the impression he had knowledge that she didn't want put out there.

Hi Mrs S - most definitely and she didn’t answer his question - as you can see ⬇️

John’s question was:
‘Another point conveniently missed by Sandra is the route back to the Mitchell home which require walking along the main road (sic)

Sandra Lean replied:
“This guy will try to discredit everything I say. So Mr Lamberton there is no other route back to Luke’s house that he can get there without walking up the main road because there’s only one point of entry to the house and that’s the front door - back gardens all back onto each other so he cannae get in the back door without coming through somebody else’s house”

Watch what she does after she says the above

[Venturi Swirl]

Hi Mrs S - most definitely and she didn’t answer his question - as you can see ⬇️

John’s question was:
‘Another point conveniently missed by Sandra is the route back to the Mitchell home which require walking along the main road (sic)

Sandra Lean replied:
“This guy will try to discredit everything I say. So Mr Lamberton there is no other route back to Luke’s house that he can get there without walking up the main road because there’s only one point of entry to the house and that’s the front door - back gardens all back onto each other so he cannae get in the back door without coming through somebody else’s house”

Watch what she does after she says the above

what time in the podcast is this please?

[Nicholas]

what time in the podcast is this please?

It was around the 47.18 point

[Venturi Swirl]

It was around the 47.18 point

I've watched now, and can only see that John asked one question?  The way the three of them are carrying on it's as if every question was from John.  Seems a bit unreasonable to me.

[Nicholas]

I've watched now, and can only see that John asked one question?  The way the three of them are carrying on it's as if every question was from John.  Seems a bit unreasonable to me.

I’ve not yet watched it all and the only comments I saw occasionally popped up on the screen

Where were all the comments being made? There appears to be only 3 on YouTube

Here’s one of them: ⬇️


‘Did Sandra explain how she really met Scott Forbes?

Heavily sedated, but was still allowed out to party and smoke weed with his pals?

Brothers arrest, forced and manipulated, where is Sandra's evidence for this? Seems like a poor excuse to me to explain away Luke's only alibi. Lots of stuttering and looking very uncomfortable when she is trying to explain this away. Only the brother can confirm what happened to him. But since he wants nothing to do with Sandra or his mother, and will not speak publicly, for the backlash that he would ensure, because Sandra has whipped up the conspiracy theorists into a frenzy. You just have to look at the hate directed to John on the comments section, for questioning Sanda.

Was it probably explained, why Corrine really had to sell her house? Quick google searches will explain this and show that she was being sued for something unrelated to Luke's case. I do wonder why they mentioned this on the documentary, for the sympathy vote?  Maybe show some sympathy for the man that lost his life for buying  one of Corrine's dodgy caravans.

The girl from Kenmore, Luke was 2 timing Jodi with? Luke turning up to Jodi's grave with another girl? He loved her that much apparently.

Mark Kane who do you believe? A professional lecturer that has nothing to gain from lying? Or a so-called criminologist that has a shocking history of supporting guilty murderers. Adrian Prout and Simon Hall rings a bell.

A quick look at Google Maps will show that there is a back route, that could have been taken undetected. Though trees and over a river (the south esk) that takes Luke right out to his front door.

Why has every single appeal failed?

If Luke is innocent, then Sandra Lean is not the answer. She has made the debate toxic with her lies. Trying to blame every other male in Midlothian and trying to undermine every witness  statement that goes against Luke as lying or having been manipulated or mistaken, is not acceptable. Luke needs proper professional people behind him, not these charlatans. But i suspect the good and proper professional's with good track records won't touch it for a reason.

[Nicholas]

My mistake - Kevin Wells referred to you as a ‘malevolent troll’ Sandra Lean agreed with him

the ‘preemptive strike’ http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg383169.html#msg383169

 

It was a ‘diversionary tactic’ and I’d also be interested to hear from Jay Mack on this and why he chose to behave like he did? Was he/is he even aware of his own behaviour?

Though I suspect he’s already under the spell of the illusion created by the 2 part show - and Sandra lean

[WakeyWakey]

I’ve not yet watched it all and the only comments I saw occasionally popped up on the screen

Where were all the comments being made? There appears to be only 3 on YouTube

Here’s one of them: ⬇️

if you view it while signed into youtube theres a chat replay panel in the right hand side with the comments in real-time, as they happened on the stream

[Nicholas]

if you view it while signed into youtube theres a chat replay panel in the right hand side with the comments in real-time, as they happened on the stream

How do I sign in to YouTube ?

[WakeyWakey]

How do I sign in to YouTube ?

actually just realised you dont even neeed to be signed in - it's just a panel directly to the right of the video, but maybe it's only visible on a proper web browser, not mobile

[John]

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[Nicholas]

‘As seen on TV -‘Sandra Lean is a leading criminologist specialising in miscarriages of justice’

Should read,

Sandra lean is a misleading ‘criminologist’ specialising in promoting innocence fraud