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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #870 on: September 19, 2019, 10:52:41 AM »

Justice4J
@FreeMoore240805
It’s not only those falsely accused of rape who have been stitched up by inadequate, inept or corrupt policing and a rotten ‘justice’ system. Innocent prisoners are serving life sentences due to lack of disclosure.

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@lizyeld
 and
@FreeMoore240805
Yes, Barry’s case was murder but, 18 years after his conviction we find a crucial piece of evidence was lost (not disclosed) that would have changed everything.
11:34 AM · Sep 9, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1171008986327539712
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #871 on: September 19, 2019, 11:20:39 AM »
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
·
Sep 2
Barry is not mentioned in the article, why the video of him? He’s not connected to Jill Dando or the story. A photo of the tree would have been more relevant. 🌲
Student flats plan set for approval would see Jill Dando memorial tree moved - Devon Live

https://www.devonlive.com/news/celebs-tv/student-flats-plan-set-approval-3276592.amp?__twitter_impression=true
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1168659406969606146

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #872 on: September 19, 2019, 11:26:51 AM »
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
·
Sep 2
Barry is not mentioned in the article, why the video of him? He’s not connected to Jill Dando or the story. A photo of the tree would have been more relevant. 🌲
Student flats plan set for approval would see Jill Dando memorial tree moved - Devon Live

https://www.devonlive.com/news/celebs-tv/student-flats-plan-set-approval-3276592.amp?__twitter_impression=true
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1168659406969606146

Interesting display of her thought process here given the fact she was up in arms over the fact the BBC failed to include her or her brother Barry George in their 20 year memorial dedicated to Jill Dando.

So up in arms in fact her and Barry were garnering attention over on ITV not long after.

https://mobile.twitter.com/itv/status/1121308688529219584?lang=en

Peter Jukes
@peterjukes
In all the discussion of #JillDando murder, little attention to HOW she was tracked. New evidence and analysis suggests phone hacking as likely as ‘lone stalker’. Will the Met now revisit the evidence?

https://mobile.twitter.com/peterjukes/status/1121558971037507585

Ms E
@shedgal1983
#JillDando Establishment stitch up/cover up. A woman actively investigating an elite paedophile ring which involved MPs, establishment, television stars, celebrities etc? As soon as she started digging her days were numbered. Any ideas
@theresa_may
 ? You ‘lost’ the files.

https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/jilldando?lang=en

Oliver Kirk Esq.
@Kirkabout
How could telling a jury of Barry George's aspbergers and brain damage allow the prosecution to adduce his previous convictions as Mansfield has just said? #jilldando
9:20 PM · Apr 25, 2019·Twitter for Android

https://mobile.twitter.com/Kirkabout/status/1121509328081625088
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #873 on: September 19, 2019, 11:43:46 AM »
Prof David Wilson
@ProfDavidWilson
·
Apr 2
#jilldando #BBC1 my research with
@ProfLizYardley
 and other colleagues at
@MyBCU
 into contract killing showed that the doorstep of the victim was the favoured site for a professional, “Master” “hit”.

ProfElizabethYardley
@ProfLizYardley
Replying to
@ProfDavidWilson
 and
@MyBCU
...and here’s a link to our paper

Hitmen and the Spaces of Contract Killing: The Doorstep Hitman
This exploratory paper considers the spaces where hits take place within Britain. It concentrates on those hits that have occurred on the doorstep of the victim and offers analysis of why this...
onlinelibrary.wiley.com
10:20 PM · Apr 2, 2019·Twitter for iPhone
https://mobile.twitter.com/ProfLizYardley/status/1113189368456515585

Gunfire Graffiti UK
@MatthewSeiber
·
3 Apr
Replying to
@ProfDavidWilson
 and
@Michelle_Diskin
I thought the documentary  was excellent and well balanced. Contract killing? What was the perpetrators brief....If you happen to see Jill Dando, shoot her.


https://www.deepdyve.com/lp/wiley/hitmen-and-the-spaces-of-contract-killing-the-doorstep-hitman-9s3Q5RGiQw
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #874 on: September 19, 2019, 02:05:07 PM »
According to Michelle Diskin Bates tweets, sister of Barry George


Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Aug 30
See the following...

5 Indicators of an Evil Heart
I think one of the reasons we don’t “see” evil is because we find it so difficult to believe that evil individuals actually exist.
https://www.crosswalk.com/slideshows/5-indicators-of-an-evil-heart.html?utm_source=Daily%20Bible%20Living&utm_campaign=Daily%20Bible%20Living%20-%20BibleStudyTools.com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=2919543&bcid=07ef3929ec562c88a74e36eaa82dc8db&recip=528911091%20
crosswalk.com

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Aug 30
1. (Psalms 5:8; 10:7; 58:3; 109:2–5; 140:2; Proverbs 6:13,14; 6:18,19; 12:13; 16:20; 16:27, 28; 30:14; Job 15:35; Jeremiah 18:18; Nehemiah 6:8; Micah 2:1; Matthew 12:34,35; Acts 6:11–13; 2 Peter 3:16)

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Aug 30
1. Evil hearts are experts at creating confusion and contention.
They twist the facts, mislead, lie, avoid taking responsibility, deny reality, make up stories, and withhold information.


Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Aug 30
2. (Psalms 50:19; 52:2,3; 57:4; 59:7; 101:7; Proverbs 12:5; 26:23–26; 26:28; Job 20:12; Jeremiah 12:6; Matthew 26:59; Acts 6:11–13; Romans 16:17,18; 2 Corinthians 11:13,14; 2 Timothy 3:2–5; 3:13; Titus 1:10,16).

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Aug 30
2. But if you look at the fruit of their lives or the follow through of their words, you will find no real evidence of godly growth or change. It’s all smoke and mirrors.

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Aug 30
2. Evil hearts are experts at fooling others with their smooth speech and flattering words.

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Aug 30
3. They use Scripture to their own advantage but ignore and reject passages that might require self-correction and repentance. (Romans 2:8; Psalms 10; 36:1–4; 50:16–22; 54:5,6; 73:6–9; Proverbs 21:24; Jude 1:8–16).

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Aug 30
3. Evil hearts crave and demand control, and their highest authority is their own self-reference.
They reject feedback, real accountability, and make up their own rules to live by.


Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
·
Aug 30
4.  They demand warmth, forgiveness, and intimacy from those they have harmed with no empathy for the pain they have caused and no real intention of making amends or working hard to rebuild broken trust. (Proverbs 21:10; 1 Peter 2:16; Jude 1:4).

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Aug 30
4. Evil hearts play on the sympathies of good-willed people, often trumping the grace card.
They demand mercy but give none themselves.


Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Aug 30
Evil hearts have no conscience, no remorse.
Slide 5 of 10
They do not struggle against sin or evil—they delight in it—all the while masquerading as someone of noble character. (Proverbs 2:14–15; 10:23; 12:10; 21:27,29; Isaiah 32:6; Romans 1:30; 2 Corinthians 11:13–15)

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/with_replies
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #875 on: September 19, 2019, 02:12:40 PM »
.https://www.crosswalk.com/slideshows/5-indicators-of-an-evil-heart.html?utm_source=Daily%20Bible%20Living&utm_campaign=Daily%20Bible%20Living%20-%20BibleStudyTools.com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=2919543&bcid=07ef3929ec562c88a74e36eaa82dc8db&recip=528911091%20
crosswalk.com

What the article says is:

“As Christian counselors, pastors and people helpers we often have a hard time discerning between an evil heart and an ordinary sinner who messes up, who isn’t perfect, and full of weakness and sin.
I think one of the reasons we don’t “see” evil is because we find it so difficult to believe that evil individuals actually exist. We can’t imagine someone deceiving us with no conscience, hurting others with no remorse, spinning outrageous fabrications to ruin someone’s reputation, or pretending he or she is spiritually committed yet has no fear of God before his or her eyes.
The Bible clearly tells us that among God’s people there are wolves that wear sheep’s clothing (Jeremiah 23:14; Titus 1:10; Revelations 2:2). It’s true that every human heart is inclined toward sin (Romans 3:23), and that includes evil (Genesis 8:21; James 1:4). We all miss God’ mark of moral perfection. However, most ordinary sinners do not happily indulge evil urges, nor do we feel good about having them. We feel ashamed and guilty, rightly so (Romans 7:19–21). These things are not true of the evil heart.
Here are five indicators that you may be dealing with an evil heart rather than an ordinary sinful heart. If so, it requires a radically different treatment approach.

And what she missed out are:

“Do you know someone like this?
If you are working with someone who exhibits these characteristics, it’s important that you confront them head on. You must name evil for what it is. The longer you try to reason with them or show mercy towards them, the more you, as the Christian counselor, will become a pawn in his or her game.
They want you to believe that:

1) Their horrible actions should have no serious or painful consequences.
When they say “I’m sorry,” they look to you as the pastor or Christian counselor to be their advocate for amnesty with the person he or she has harmed. They believe grace means they are immediately granted immunity from the relational fallout of their serious sin. They believe forgiveness entitles them to full reconciliation and will pressure you and their victim to comply.
The Bible warns us saying, “But when grace is shown to the wicked, they do not learn righteousness; even in a land of uprightness they go on doing evil and do not regard the majesty of the Lord (Isaiah 26:10).
The Bible tells us that talking doesn’t wake up evil people, but painful consequences might. Jesus didn’t wake up the Pharisee’s with his talk nor did God’s counsel impact Cain (Genesis 4). In addition, the Bible shows us that when someone is truly sorry for the pain they have caused, he or she is eager to make amends to those they have harmed by their sin (see Zacchaeus’ response when he repented of his greed in Luke 19).

Tim Keller writes,
“If you have been the victim of a heinous crime. If you have suffered violence, and the perpetrator (or even the judge) says, ‘Sorry, can’t we just let it go?’ You would say, ‘No, that would be an injustice.’ Your refusal would rightly have nothing to do with bitterness or vengeance. If you have been badly wronged, you know that saying sorry is never enough. Something else is required—some kind of costly payment must be made to put things right.”1
As Biblical counselors let’s not collude with the evil one by turning our attention to the victim, requiring her to forgive, to forget, to trust again when there has been no evidence of inner change. Proverbs says, “Trusting in a treacherous man in time of trouble is like a bad tooth or a foot that slips” (Proverbs. 25:19). It’s foolishness.
The evil person will also try to get you to believe...

2) That if I talk like a gospel-believing Christian I am one, even if my actions don’t line up with my talk.
Slide 9 of 10
Remember, Satan masquerades as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:13–15). He knows more true doctrine than you or I will ever know, but his heart is wicked. Why? Because although he knows the truth, he does not believe it or live it.
The Bible has some strong words for those whose actions do not match their talk (1 John 3:17,18; Jeremiah 7:8,10; James 1:22, 26). John the Baptist said it best when he admonished the religious leaders, “Prove by the way you live that you have repented of your sins and turned to God” (Luke 3:8).
If week after week you hear the talk but there is no change in the walk, you have every reason to question someone’s relationship with God.

Can an evil person really change?
Part of our maturity as spiritual leaders is that we have been trained to discern between good and evil. Why is that so important? It’s important because evil usually pretends to be good, and without discernment we can be easily fooled (Hebrews 5:14).
When you confront evil, chances are good that the evil heart will stop counseling with you because the darkness hates the light (John 3:20) and the foolish and evil heart reject correction (Proverbs 9:7,8). But that outcome is far better than allowing the evil heart to believe you are on his or her side, or that “he’s not that bad” or “that he’s really sorry” or “that he’s changing” when, in fact, he is not.
Daniel says, “[T]he wicked will continue to be wicked” (Daniel 12:10), which begs the question, do you think an evil person can really change?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #876 on: September 19, 2019, 02:20:45 PM »
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted

Elizabeth Yeld
@lizyeld
·
Aug 30
In the old days, motive was very important.
The only person with motive and reason for an outpouring of such irrational anger and desperation on such a terrifying scale was poor, sick Sheila. Her family were gently trying to persuade her to let her boys go into foster care.

https://mobile.twitter.com/lizyeld/status/1167408730973118466
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #877 on: September 19, 2019, 02:30:30 PM »
Empowering Wrongful Convictions (EWC)
@wrongfulcons
Must-read book for all fighting a miscarriage of justice by an inspirational, fearless and indefatigable woman who will never cease in her quest for truth and justice for her brother, their family and his alleged victim. #wrongfulconvictions #miscarriagesofjustice #injustice https://twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1114144289871880192

https://mobile.twitter.com/wrongfulcons/status/1166616420060422144


Empowering Wrongful Convictions (EWC)
@wrongfulcons
New initiative being set up by Dr Michael Naughton: http://michaeljnaughton.com
Joined June 2019


ME TOO FALSELY ACCUSED
@metooFA
Replying to
@easyjail
 @LynFAdtoo
 and 5 others
There are also many inside who are maintaining innocence but aren't anything like innocent..... the best thing those who are innocent can do is maintain their dignity and self respect. Fortunately an awful lot of these guys have the love and support to allow this ....
5:18 PM · Sep 18, 2019·Twitter for Android


Empowering Innocence
@Empow_Innocence
Article that distinguishes between prisoners maintaining innocence who are not and those who might be:  ‘Factual Innocence versus Legal Guilt: The Need for a New Pair of Spectacles to view the Problem of Life-Sentenced Prisoners Maintaining Innocence': http://innocencenetwork.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Michael_Naughton_Factual_Innocence_Legal_Guilt_PSJ_May_2008.pdf

https://mobile.twitter.com/Empow_Innocence/status/1174372722039803904

Factual Innocence versus Legal Guilt
The Need for a New Pair of Spectacles to view the Problem of Life-Sentenced Prisoners Maintaining Innocence by Dr Michael Naughton

http://www.innocencenetwork.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Michael_Naughton_Factual_Innocence_Legal_Guilt_PSJ_May_2008.pdf
« Last Edit: September 19, 2019, 02:34:35 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #878 on: September 20, 2019, 12:10:30 PM »
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted

Elizabeth Yeld
@lizyeld
·
Aug 30
In the old days, motive was very important.
The only person with motive and reason for an outpouring of such irrational anger and desperation on such a terrifying scale was poor, sick Sheila. Her family were gently trying to persuade her to let her boys go into foster care.

https://mobile.twitter.com/lizyeld/status/1167408730973118466

https://mobile.twitter.com/ciabaudo/status/1001415659237138432?lang=en


“A middle aged man told a jury today that he was sexually abused by his German teacher at a Hemel Hempstead boarding school three decades ago.

He alleged he could smell alcohol on the breath of David Yeld when he climbed onto the bunk bed in his dormitory at the privately-run Westbrook Hay Preparatory School.

The teacher is said to have got under the duvet, pulled the 10-year-old’s pyjama trousers down and touched his penis, St Albans Crown Court heard.

David Yeld, 59, who now lives in Salcombe Regis, Devon, pleads not guilty to one charge of indecent assault between October 5 1982 and October 7 1983.

Giving evidence on a police video, the man, who is now 42, said he was on the top of a bunk bed to the right of a door in the dormitory after lights out sometime between 8 and 9pm.

He went on: “Someone came in. I saw Mr Yeld my German teacher. He stood there for a little while. He came up to the bed. You could smell alcohol on him. It was like he had been drinking beers.

“Then he climbed into my bed and got under the covers. He started to take my top off. I tried to get away. I was saying: ‘Stop’. I can’t remember if he said anything. He pulled my trousers down and started touching me.

“I think he was trying to kiss me. He had a horrible moustache. I wriggled down to the bottom of the bed. I don’t know if the other boys were asleep or pretending to be asleep. I got off the bed and ran out of the door.”

The man said he ran to the office of the then headmaster Andrew Wright.

The court then heard that Wright himself was to later kill himself after being accused of sexually abusing children.

Prosecutor Laura Blackband said the boy’s parents spoke to the head at the time. Mr Yeld was dismissed from the school, but they decided it was not in their child’s best interests to contact the police at that time. She said he went to the police in May 2013. “It has preyed on his mind and blighted his life to a degree,” she said.

The jury heard that Mr Yeld was arrested in June 2013. At the time he was working as a supply teacher. He refused to answer police questions on that occasion, but when he was interviewed a second time in February 2014, he said what happened was a “practical joke.”

Mr Yeld told the officer he had been drinking with the headmaster and had gone to the dormitory by mistake and decided to play a joke by grabbing the boy’s clothing. He denied any sexual activity.

https://www.hemeltoday.co.uk/news/man-claims-he-was-sexually-abused-by-german-teacher-at-boarding-school-30-years-ago-1-6596117
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #879 on: September 20, 2019, 04:15:13 PM »
ME TOO FALSELY ACCUSED
@metooFA
Replying to
@easyjail
 @LynFAdtoo
 and 5 others
There are also many inside who are maintaining innocence but aren't anything like innocent..... the best thing those who are innocent can do is maintain their dignity and self respect. Fortunately an awful lot of these guys have the love and support to allow this ....
5:18 PM · Sep 18, 2019·Twitter for Android


Empowering Innocence
@Empow_Innocence
Article that distinguishes between prisoners maintaining innocence who are not and those who might be:  ‘Factual Innocence versus Legal Guilt: The Need for a New Pair of Spectacles to view the Problem of Life-Sentenced Prisoners Maintaining Innocence': http://innocencenetwork.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Michael_Naughton_Factual_Innocence_Legal_Guilt_PSJ_May_2008.pdf

https://mobile.twitter.com/Empow_Innocence/status/1174372722039803904

Factual Innocence versus Legal Guilt
The Need for a New Pair of Spectacles to view the Problem of Life-Sentenced Prisoners Maintaining Innocence by Dr Michael Naughton

http://www.innocencenetwork.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Michael_Naughton_Factual_Innocence_Legal_Guilt_PSJ_May_2008.pdf

Imo Michael Naughton’s tweet(s) do not appear to be “empowering innocence”

Steven Oldfield
@StevenOldfield2
The CCRC are a corrupt bunch of gravy train dippers who prevent corrupt convictions from coming to light and it is about time people realised they exist to line their pockets and protect corrupt public officials.

Empowering Innocence
@Empow_Innocence
 · 8h
Copious research has been conducted. The @ccrcupdate is fully aware & fully understands how s.13 (real possibility test) fails innocent applicants. Yet, it continues to deny & defend the indefensible. Mass public awareness raising initiatives are needed if there is to be change. https://twitter.com/hanksoff03/status/1174633717207314432

https://mobile.twitter.com/StevenOldfield2/status/1175024789917982720

Steven Oldfield
A MAN caused the car his wife was driving to flip over and land on its roof when he pulled the handbrake after she refused to stop the vehicle during a row.

Steven Oldfield took the ‘highly irresponsible’ action in Southsea as his wife was giving him a lift to Fratton train station in Portsmouth so he could go to a rugby match at Twickenham.

After a trial, the 58-year-old retired sound engineer was found guilty of causing a danger to other road users by interfering with a motor vehicle.
Portsmouth Crown Court heard Oldfield was a passenger in the car being driven by his wife when an argument broke out.

A debate between the pair over picking up others or meeting other people en route, and what the best arrangement was for doing so, became heated during the journey to the station.

Oldfield eventually decided that he wanted to get out of the vehicle and shouted at his wife to stop the car.

Addressing Oldfield, Judge Roger Hetherington, sentencing, said: ‘The argument got rather heated to the point you decided that you wanted the car to stop and you wanted to get out of the car, and so you shouted at your wife to stop the car.’

He added: ‘You shouted at her to stop the car and when she didn’t you pulled on the handbrake sharply, causing the car to go out of control, hit a kerb and roll onto its roof in the middle of the street.’

The court head that Oldfield has spent his time doing worthwhile work with schools and other people, mainly on a voluntary basis, since he has retired.

He has no previous criminal convictions.

Judge Hetherington gave Oldfield a 12-month community order.

He was ordered to carry out 100 hours of unpaid work in the next year for committing the offence on April 27 last year.

He must pay £1,000 in court costs and was banned from driving for six months.

Judge Hetherington added: ‘It was fortunate indeed that someone was not seriously injured.

‘Your wife was slightly injured.

‘You yourself may have been slightly injured, but it was fortunate that 
no other bystanders or other 
vehicles were damaged or injured in any way.

‘Nevertheless it was a highly irresponsible thing to have done, for which there was no excuse whatsoever, and it could have caused a very serious accident.

I accept at the time you may have had a very stressful day the day before.’

Judge Hetherington added that there is no suggestion that Oldfield, of Lindley Avenue, in Southsea, who represented himself at the sentencing hearing, is a dangerous or careless driver.

But he said: ‘The court must take a serious view of these things.’

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/portsmouth-man-caused-car-to-flip-over-after-putting-on-handbrake-during-row-1-6326919/amp#click=https://t.co/Kci9EopJ95


“A husband who flipped the family car during a row with his wife after criticising her driving is fighting in court to prove he acted "reasonably".
Steven Oldfield and his wife Catherine were in their Kia Rio on the way to a rugby match in April 2013, with her at the wheel.
He said they had a "catastrophic disagreement" over her handling of the car and she would not stop and let him out.
As she accelerated, Mr Oldfield pulled on the handbrake - causing the car to "clip the kerb" and slide along the road on its side before rolling onto its roof.
Both husband and wife suffered minor injuries in the crash and Mr Oldfield, of Southsea, was arrested at the scene. He insisted that what he did was "reasonable" and that he had "no choice" but to pull on the handbrake.
However, he was convicted of causing danger to road users by interfering with a motor vehicle at Portsmouth Crown Court in August last year.
He was given a community order, with 100 hours of unpaid work, although that sentence was later reduced to a conditional discharge.
But Mr Oldfield said the criminal conviction has blighted his life and "destroyed" his business and asked London's Appeal Court to clear his name.
The court heard the married couple were driving to Fratton railway station, in Portsmouth, on their way to the Army and Navy rugby match at Twickenham on April 27, 2013.
Judge Roger Hetherington, at the crown court, described how a "rather heated argument" broke out between the couple over arrangements for picking up or meeting others en route.
Mr Oldfield eventually decided that he wanted to get out of the vehicle and "shouted at his wife to stop the car".
Outside the Appeal Court, Mr Oldfield said emotions in the car had been running high after a family funeral the day before the accident.
"I decided she was unfit to drive and told her we'd missed our train anyway... I tried to stop the car with the handbrake. I had no choice. My head made a large bulge in the roof," after the car flipped over, he said.
But, when passing sentence on Mr Oldfield, Judge Hetherington had told him: "It was fortunate indeed that someone was not seriously injured.
"It was fortunate that no other bystanders or other vehicles were damaged or injured in any way.
"Nevertheless it was a highly irresponsible thing to have done, for which there was no excuse whatsoever, and it could have caused a very serious accident."
Addressing the Appeal Court in person, Mr Oldfield criticised the accuracy of police evidence and insisted that his behaviour was reasonable.
Lady Justice Rafferty, sitting with Mr Justice William Davis and Judge David Stockdale QC dented his hopes, when she said: "The issue for the jury was very simple.
"Did Mr Oldfield have any reasonable cause to pull on the handbrake and did he do it in circumstances which it would have been obvious to a reasonable person were dangerous?"
Mr Oldfield had breached his "clear duty" to behave safely on the roads and there were "no grounds" on which to successfully challenge the jury's verdict. But outside court, Mr Oldfield vowed to fight on to clear his name.
He said he would now take his case before the Criminal Cases Review Commission, the independent body that investigates suspected miscarriages of justice.
He added: "What happened has destroyed my business. I'm a sound engineer and we worked a lot in schools and, after this, the phone just stopped ringing. All they saw was a monster who'd done this to his wife."
Mr Oldfield said he and his wife are "still very much together" and described their relationship as "fantastic".
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/12159695/Husband-so-concerned-by-wifes-bad-driving-flipped-their-car-onto-its-roof-by-pulling-on-handbrake.html
« Last Edit: September 20, 2019, 04:40:19 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #880 on: September 20, 2019, 04:55:35 PM »
Imo Michael Naughton’s tweet(s) do not appear to be “empowering innocence”

Steven Oldfield
@StevenOldfield2
The CCRC are a corrupt bunch of gravy train dippers who prevent corrupt convictions from coming to light and it is about time people realised they exist to line their pockets and protect corrupt public officials.

Empowering Innocence
@Empow_Innocence
 · 8h
Copious research has been conducted. The @ccrcupdate is fully aware & fully understands how s.13 (real possibility test) fails innocent applicants. Yet, it continues to deny & defend the indefensible. Mass public awareness raising initiatives are needed if there is to be change. https://twitter.com/hanksoff03/status/1174633717207314432

https://mobile.twitter.com/StevenOldfield2/status/1175024789917982720

Steven Oldfield
A MAN caused the car his wife was driving to flip over and land on its roof when he pulled the handbrake after she refused to stop the vehicle during a row.

Steven Oldfield took the ‘highly irresponsible’ action in Southsea as his wife was giving him a lift to Fratton train station in Portsmouth so he could go to a rugby match at Twickenham.

After a trial, the 58-year-old retired sound engineer was found guilty of causing a danger to other road users by interfering with a motor vehicle.
Portsmouth Crown Court heard Oldfield was a passenger in the car being driven by his wife when an argument broke out.

A debate between the pair over picking up others or meeting other people en route, and what the best arrangement was for doing so, became heated during the journey to the station.

Oldfield eventually decided that he wanted to get out of the vehicle and shouted at his wife to stop the car.

Addressing Oldfield, Judge Roger Hetherington, sentencing, said: ‘The argument got rather heated to the point you decided that you wanted the car to stop and you wanted to get out of the car, and so you shouted at your wife to stop the car.’

He added: ‘You shouted at her to stop the car and when she didn’t you pulled on the handbrake sharply, causing the car to go out of control, hit a kerb and roll onto its roof in the middle of the street.’

The court head that Oldfield has spent his time doing worthwhile work with schools and other people, mainly on a voluntary basis, since he has retired.

He has no previous criminal convictions.

Judge Hetherington gave Oldfield a 12-month community order.

He was ordered to carry out 100 hours of unpaid work in the next year for committing the offence on April 27 last year.

He must pay £1,000 in court costs and was banned from driving for six months.

Judge Hetherington added: ‘It was fortunate indeed that someone was not seriously injured.

‘Your wife was slightly injured.

‘You yourself may have been slightly injured, but it was fortunate that 
no other bystanders or other 
vehicles were damaged or injured in any way.

‘Nevertheless it was a highly irresponsible thing to have done, for which there was no excuse whatsoever, and it could have caused a very serious accident.

I accept at the time you may have had a very stressful day the day before.’

Judge Hetherington added that there is no suggestion that Oldfield, of Lindley Avenue, in Southsea, who represented himself at the sentencing hearing, is a dangerous or careless driver.

But he said: ‘The court must take a serious view of these things.’

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/portsmouth-man-caused-car-to-flip-over-after-putting-on-handbrake-during-row-1-6326919/amp#click=https://t.co/Kci9EopJ95


“A husband who flipped the family car during a row with his wife after criticising her driving is fighting in court to prove he acted "reasonably".
Steven Oldfield and his wife Catherine were in their Kia Rio on the way to a rugby match in April 2013, with her at the wheel.
He said they had a "catastrophic disagreement" over her handling of the car and she would not stop and let him out.
As she accelerated, Mr Oldfield pulled on the handbrake - causing the car to "clip the kerb" and slide along the road on its side before rolling onto its roof.
Both husband and wife suffered minor injuries in the crash and Mr Oldfield, of Southsea, was arrested at the scene. He insisted that what he did was "reasonable" and that he had "no choice" but to pull on the handbrake.
However, he was convicted of causing danger to road users by interfering with a motor vehicle at Portsmouth Crown Court in August last year.
He was given a community order, with 100 hours of unpaid work, although that sentence was later reduced to a conditional discharge.
But Mr Oldfield said the criminal conviction has blighted his life and "destroyed" his business and asked London's Appeal Court to clear his name.
The court heard the married couple were driving to Fratton railway station, in Portsmouth, on their way to the Army and Navy rugby match at Twickenham on April 27, 2013.
Judge Roger Hetherington, at the crown court, described how a "rather heated argument" broke out between the couple over arrangements for picking up or meeting others en route.
Mr Oldfield eventually decided that he wanted to get out of the vehicle and "shouted at his wife to stop the car".
Outside the Appeal Court, Mr Oldfield said emotions in the car had been running high after a family funeral the day before the accident.
"I decided she was unfit to drive and told her we'd missed our train anyway... I tried to stop the car with the handbrake. I had no choice. My head made a large bulge in the roof," after the car flipped over, he said.
But, when passing sentence on Mr Oldfield, Judge Hetherington had told him: "It was fortunate indeed that someone was not seriously injured.
"It was fortunate that no other bystanders or other vehicles were damaged or injured in any way.
"Nevertheless it was a highly irresponsible thing to have done, for which there was no excuse whatsoever, and it could have caused a very serious accident."
Addressing the Appeal Court in person, Mr Oldfield criticised the accuracy of police evidence and insisted that his behaviour was reasonable.
Lady Justice Rafferty, sitting with Mr Justice William Davis and Judge David Stockdale QC dented his hopes, when she said: "The issue for the jury was very simple.
"Did Mr Oldfield have any reasonable cause to pull on the handbrake and did he do it in circumstances which it would have been obvious to a reasonable person were dangerous?"
Mr Oldfield had breached his "clear duty" to behave safely on the roads and there were "no grounds" on which to successfully challenge the jury's verdict. But outside court, Mr Oldfield vowed to fight on to clear his name.
He said he would now take his case before the Criminal Cases Review Commission, the independent body that investigates suspected miscarriages of justice.
He added: "What happened has destroyed my business. I'm a sound engineer and we worked a lot in schools and, after this, the phone just stopped ringing. All they saw was a monster who'd done this to his wife."
Mr Oldfield said he and his wife are "still very much together" and described their relationship as "fantastic".
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/12159695/Husband-so-concerned-by-wifes-bad-driving-flipped-their-car-onto-its-roof-by-pulling-on-handbrake.html

Steven Oldfield
@StevenOldfield2
Replying to
@crimlawuk
Judges have many biases as they are people who are tainted because of their station and the power they hold. My Trial Judge went on to falsify and deplete over a hundred pages of the T/Trans before they arrived at the Appeal Court so the independence of the Judiciary is a myth.

https://mobile.twitter.com/StevenOldfield2/status/1174636808635912192
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #881 on: September 21, 2019, 02:11:48 PM »
Barry George and epilepsy:

Wasn’t properly diagnosed until just before his trial yet his Uncle Mike seems to suggest otherwise?

So who diagnosed Barry George’s epilepsy and when exactly? What do his medical records state?

In the Eddie Gilfoyle case, “The Commission said that Professor Kopelman was content to accept that the claimant had been deprived of his medication during the trial, as the claimant alleged, and appeared to have based his conclusions largely on the claimant’s self-reporting.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7310.msg550859#msg550859


“Staff at Heathermount, set in 14 idyllic acres in Sunningdale, Berkshire, remembered him as a "mummy's boy" who followed one of the matrons "like a lost lamb". The less academic pupils, like George, were encouraged to concentrate on woodwork, metalwork, weaving and gardening, and to perform in ambitious theatre productions, such as La Boheme and The Mikado.
It was here that George's obsession with celebrity began to emerge, insisting to friends and teachers that they should call him Paul Gadd, Gary Glitter's real name.
"He didn't just have posters on his walls like the other kids," said one former member of staff. "He knew every movement, song and dance."
At Heathermount, George may also have had his first contact with guns. In the spring of 1972 the school built a small-bore rifle range, much against the wishes of some parents and governors. Although it closed a year later, George would have known about and probably used the facility.
George often had "funny turns", but staff were not sure whether these episodes were real or feigned. Doctors examined him on two occasions between 1974 and 1976 and concluded there was nothing wrong.
It is now accepted that George does suffer from a mild form of epilepsy, though the experts are divided about its effects. Some believe George deliberately exaggerates the condition, others claim it has caused "severe brain dysfunction"
. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jul/03/jilldando.media5

“a mild form of epilepsy though the experts are divided about its effects

At his second trial, the defence produced analysis from neuropsychiatrist Professor Michael Kopelman who said Mr George had an IQ of 75, putting him in the lowest five per cent of the population
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jill-dando-murder-theories-what-happened-who-barry-george-bbc-documentary-a8851491.html

Did Professor Kopelman rely on “self reporting” to form his opinion of Barry George’s IQ like he did re Eddie Gilfoyle?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #882 on: October 04, 2019, 11:30:08 AM »
We must do more to sift fact from fiction - david aaronovitch The Times

Democracy is in danger when falsehoods proliferate to such an extent that establishing the truth appears a futile task


What’s true and what isn’t — and how much harm untruth can do in the public realm — is one of the great problems of our time. Last year the government identified the propagation of fake or inaccurate claims online as one of the biggest factors in the confusion.

Facebook has since employed independent groups of fact-checkers to examine how it deals with claims of inaccurate information on the platform. One British group is called Full Fact and, as The Times reported on Tuesday, it has published its interim findings


Read more here: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/we-must-do-more-to-sift-fact-from-fiction-sjflg78tk

Ben Emmerson QC
“It appeared to me that there was a significant risk that people with delusional personality disorders were being drawn into the moral panic that was circulating around rumours of abuse by prominent politicians.

There seemed to be a phenomenon of people making highly improbable copycat allegations on the back of the publicity surrounding certain high profile cases, such as that of Carl Beech.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/04/extremely-sceptical-allegations-made-carl-beech-outset/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #883 on: October 08, 2019, 12:40:44 PM »
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted

Elizabeth Yeld
@lizyeld
·
Aug 30
In the old days, motive was very important.
The only person with motive and reason for an outpouring of such irrational anger and desperation on such a terrifying scale was poor, sick Sheila. Her family were gently trying to persuade her to let her boys go into foster care.

https://mobile.twitter.com/lizyeld/status/1167408730973118466

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
·
Oct 6
I am so sorry people, my online stalker has been trawling through my tweets and has now added some of you to her rants. She seems to be pathologically against miscarriage of justice.
*No one is interacting on her page so please don’t you either. She’ll thrive and grow on that


AJ
@MoochAj
·
20h
Replying to
@Michelle_Diskin
There is always one that dropped off the tree too early !

William Beck
@WullieBeck
·
Oct 7
Replying to
@Michelle_Diskin
Who is she Michelle ?



A women who claims to be a ”child of god?”

According to Michelle Diskin Bates I’m ”pathologically against miscarriages of justice” which in itself is a totally unfounded and indeed bizarre statement to make.

However the above is yet further evidence of the fact her true colours and psychological projections are never far from the surface

She’s even included a screenshot of this site https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1180916307069411330

 8@??)(
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #884 on: October 08, 2019, 12:51:19 PM »
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
·
Oct 6
I am so sorry people, my online stalker has been trawling through my tweets and has now added some of you to her rants. She seems to be pathologically against miscarriage of justice.
*No one is interacting on her page so please don’t you either. She’ll thrive and grow on that


AJ
@MoochAj
·
20h
Replying to
@Michelle_Diskin
There is always one that dropped off the tree too early !

William Beck
@WullieBeck
·
Oct 7
Replying to
@Michelle_Diskin
Who is she Michelle ?



A women who claims to be a ”child of god?”

According to Michelle Diskin Bates I’m ”pathologically against miscarriages of justice” which in itself is a totally unfounded and indeed bizarre statement to make.

However the above is yet further evidence of the fact her true colours and psychological projections are never far from the surface

She’s even included a screenshot of this site https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1180916307069411330

 8@??)(


Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Sep 30
Replying to
@helen_a15
 and
@IndiaWilloughby
I’m blocked by my online troll! I think she doesn’t want e to see how often she is defaming me 😃 It’s a crazy world.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1178713139577274369


Michelle Diskin Bates claims I’m her “online troll” yet I’ve got her blocked - as she confirms above? Absolutely bonkers!  *&^^&


H;
@helen_a15
Sep 30
She. Trolled you?£ why?! X


Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Sep 30
Replying to
@helen_a15
 and
@IndiaWilloughby
I used the wrong word, she likes to tell people I don’t have any integrity, I’m a fraud. She has been doing this on a forum for years.  Then she found me on here so started contacting others who are battling miscarriage of justice to tell them how bad I am. Go figure


Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@helen_a15
 and
@IndiaWilloughby
It’s a shame, she a very intelligent woman, she could be using her gift of intelligence for good purposes. Instead, she’s focusing on negatives. Damaged and bitter
! 🥴

She refers to me as “damaged and bitter” & ”my online troll” and “she’s focusing on the negatives” then publicly admits to having “used the wrong word” but I’m “defaming” her?

Michelle Diskin Bates claims:
she likes to tell people I don’t have any integrity, I’m a fraud. She has been doing this on a forum for years.  Then she found me on here so started contacting others who are battling miscarriage of justice to tell them how bad I am. Go figure”

Yet another telling public statement which doesn’t appear to be going unnoticed by others I might add.

Would be interested to know who it is she claims I’ve contacted or started contacting?
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Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation